Yes - he was just proposing that a device half way between the two would need an OS half way between the two, and trying to fluff it up to sound like great technical insight.
As cool as it would be, I still don?t see a consumer market for a dedicated tablet Mac.
Does it really make sense for Apple to develop yet another operating system? Unless it's going be the same iphone OS with added resolutions I just don't see them recouping the costs of development.
This is all about analysts trying to invent excitement around a vacuum of activity and product announcements. That is all.
The Piper Jaffray analyst also told clients that a tablet device could pave the way for Apple to get more serious about eBooks and give devices like the Kindle and Kindle DX from online retailer Amazon.com some unwanted competition.
Unwanted competition? Amazon WANTS Apple to develop a kindle-killer; that's why they ported kindle to iPhone and bought a company that ports book-reader software to multiple devices.
Amazon would be more than happy to be a bit player in the book-reader market if they're selling the lion's share of the books.
While this is great, 2010 is simply way too long away for an announcement. See what happens when all your energies go into the iPhone? Macs get pushed aside.
Groan. There you go again. This is getting so tiresome. And, the sad part is, you are completely impervious.
You all have fun! I'll stop reading this thread right here and now, because I can predict that well over 50% of responses will come from you.....
$700 and a wireless plan will be required? too expensive.
$400 and around $30 for a WWAN data plan should be about right. not like the hardware will be anything special. if acer can sell netbooks for $299 with XP on them why can't Apple sell a device with similar specs for a similar price?
Multiple apps do run at the same time on the iPhone and Touch. The only thing Apple currently doesn?t allow is the multiple 3rd-party apps to run at once. There is a difference and there is a reason for it, but you know that are just trolling.
No you are just being difficult. How do you view and perform more than one App at a time on your iPhone simultaneously and why would you want to limit the tablet to not have this feature as well?
His point, I believe, is that it can run multiple apps at once, which is why your iPod music keeps playing, your stopwatch keeps running and you keep receiving emails, etc whilst browsing Safari. So perhaps you're being the jerk, or just ignorant?
Neither. I meant view them at once like any laptop/netbook and he knew it.
No you are just being difficult. How do you view and perform more than one App at a time on your iPhone simultaneously and why would you want to limit the tablet to not have this feature as well?
You are just being an idiot and a troll for, again, not admitting that you didn?t think through your negative response before replying. You can use multiple apps at once on the iPhone and Touch, but since it is a 3.5? screen you can?t have side-by-side app windows like you would on a desktop. They use overlays, I use it or my headphones (the ones you said won?t work with the iPhone) to control the iPod app when doing anything else on the device, for example.
As for a tablet being able to have multiple apps running at once from 3rd-parties, side-by-side (see how I use my words to write something clear and concise) you are the one pooh-poohing Apple in this regard. There is no logistical limitation for a large display with a more CPU and a lot more RAM so why do think Apple would do that?
The whole point of releasing a sub $1000 device with a little more usability than the iphone is the current economy. Read the trades; the apple Brand is strong partially due to the iphone and more importantly ipod touch proliferation. relatively few people can afford a macbook or an imac over and ipod and even fewer can afford a macbook pro or a macpro. Tablets are wonderful. Whoever questions that is retarded, period. Inexpensive, flexible and more powerful than all of the computers we thought were so powerful 10 years ago and paid $5,000 for. LOL My iphone is more powerful than my 333MHZ g3 tower that cost $5k with the extras. Other criticisms like ergonomics are weak at best. ever tried putting a macbook pro in you lap and typing? Nothing ergonomically about that. Your lap will be singed and your back and wrists are dead after an hour. Capability concerns are a farce, if it runs an office suite (Microsoft is already talking about iphone warez BTW), surfs the internet, checks email and plays games, that's a portable that fits the bill for many many people.
portable, light weight, easy to use, inexpensive (in a bad economy) new and exciting. Yeah tablets suck LOL
You are just being an idiot and a troll for, again, not admitting that you didn’t think through your negative response before replying. You can use multiple apps at once on the iPhone and Touch, but since it is a 3.5” screen you can’t have side-by-side app windows like you would on a desktop. They use overlays, I use it or my headphones (the ones you said won’t work with the iPhone) to control the iPod app when doing anything else on the device, for example.
As for a tablet being able to have multiple apps running at once from 3rd-parties, side-by-side (see how I use my words to write something clear and concise) you are the one pooh-poohing Apple in this regard. There is no logistical limitation for a large display with a more CPU and a lot more RAM so why do think Apple would do that?
Again you distort. I was responding to the post that said there was no need for a modified OS. But of course you want me to spoon feed you that posting too- no way.
And BTW "idiot", it's not the screen- IT'S THE OS.
I just don't understand why everyone is so in love with this tablet idea. These things have such an exceedingly limited usefulness.
Do you really want to keep it flat on your lap while you type on it? Because that won't add an incredible amount of strain to your neck or anything. Or maybe you can hold it up with one hand, and type with the other one. Yeah, that'll be a blast. Try it now with your keyboard. Hold it up with one hand and type with the other. See how long you keep that up.
I think the assumption here is that you would thumb type on it. The iPhone in portrait mode is an excellent thumb typing device, if a bit cramped. The same keyboard 50% bigger would be an almost perfect set-up IMO.
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Originally Posted by vercordio
... good luck visiting any Flash-based websites and not wanting to throw that $700 tablet like a frisbee.
Except that won't be any different from the iPhone and the iPod touch which are both selling rather well right now and which people seem to love.
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Originally Posted by vercordio
... If there were no more client-side hard drives, if everything (including your applications) was stored on the internet and you could access it anywhere, then maybe something like this - essentially just a portable window to the internet - might be useful. Otherwise, as a second computer, this thing is going to be a $700 paperweight.
Here you are missing the obvious. Mac users already have those options.
I'm a Mac user and I have MobileMe and a Time Capsule at home. I can access all my data through BackToMyMac whether it's in the cloud or on any of my computers or my networked hard drives, no matter where the computers are, from anywhere in the world. Already. Today.
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Yes - he was just proposing that a device half way between the two would need an OS half way between the two, and trying to fluff it up to sound like great technical insight.
As cool as it would be, I still don?t see a consumer market for a dedicated tablet Mac.
That's a very good point. How do Apple ensure people view it as an "excellent iPhone" and not a "crap computer?"
Sounds like an awesome gaming device!
As cool as it would be, I still don?t see a consumer market for a dedicated tablet Mac.
Me neither. Would be happy to be proven wrong though.
Yeah...then READ what you said afterwards! Dipshit!
Wow. What are you, the thought police? So what, he was stating an opinion. Nothing like getting skewered and lambasted for speaking your mind...
Does it really make sense for Apple to develop yet another operating system? Unless it's going be the same iphone OS with added resolutions I just don't see them recouping the costs of development.
This is all about analysts trying to invent excitement around a vacuum of activity and product announcements. That is all.
The Piper Jaffray analyst also told clients that a tablet device could pave the way for Apple to get more serious about eBooks and give devices like the Kindle and Kindle DX from online retailer Amazon.com some unwanted competition.
Unwanted competition? Amazon WANTS Apple to develop a kindle-killer; that's why they ported kindle to iPhone and bought a company that ports book-reader software to multiple devices.
Amazon would be more than happy to be a bit player in the book-reader market if they're selling the lion's share of the books.
Laughable. Apple can't do anything less than $999....
iPhone, iPods, Mac Mini, Apple TV.
While this is great, 2010 is simply way too long away for an announcement. See what happens when all your energies go into the iPhone? Macs get pushed aside.
Groan. There you go again. This is getting so tiresome. And, the sad part is, you are completely impervious.
You all have fun! I'll stop reading this thread right here and now, because I can predict that well over 50% of responses will come from you.....
$400 and around $30 for a WWAN data plan should be about right. not like the hardware will be anything special. if acer can sell netbooks for $299 with XP on them why can't Apple sell a device with similar specs for a similar price?
Multiple apps do run at the same time on the iPhone and Touch. The only thing Apple currently doesn?t allow is the multiple 3rd-party apps to run at once. There is a difference and there is a reason for it, but you know that are just trolling.
No you are just being difficult. How do you view and perform more than one App at a time on your iPhone simultaneously and why would you want to limit the tablet to not have this feature as well?
His point, I believe, is that it can run multiple apps at once, which is why your iPod music keeps playing, your stopwatch keeps running and you keep receiving emails, etc whilst browsing Safari. So perhaps you're being the jerk, or just ignorant?
Neither. I meant view them at once like any laptop/netbook and he knew it.
No you are just being difficult. How do you view and perform more than one App at a time on your iPhone simultaneously and why would you want to limit the tablet to not have this feature as well?
You are just being an idiot and a troll for, again, not admitting that you didn?t think through your negative response before replying. You can use multiple apps at once on the iPhone and Touch, but since it is a 3.5? screen you can?t have side-by-side app windows like you would on a desktop. They use overlays, I use it or my headphones (the ones you said won?t work with the iPhone) to control the iPod app when doing anything else on the device, for example.
As for a tablet being able to have multiple apps running at once from 3rd-parties, side-by-side (see how I use my words to write something clear and concise) you are the one pooh-poohing Apple in this regard. There is no logistical limitation for a large display with a more CPU and a lot more RAM so why do think Apple would do that?
portable, light weight, easy to use, inexpensive (in a bad economy) new and exciting. Yeah tablets suck LOL
You are just being an idiot and a troll for, again, not admitting that you didn’t think through your negative response before replying. You can use multiple apps at once on the iPhone and Touch, but since it is a 3.5” screen you can’t have side-by-side app windows like you would on a desktop. They use overlays, I use it or my headphones (the ones you said won’t work with the iPhone) to control the iPod app when doing anything else on the device, for example.
As for a tablet being able to have multiple apps running at once from 3rd-parties, side-by-side (see how I use my words to write something clear and concise) you are the one pooh-poohing Apple in this regard. There is no logistical limitation for a large display with a more CPU and a lot more RAM so why do think Apple would do that?
Again you distort. I was responding to the post that said there was no need for a modified OS. But of course you want me to spoon feed you that posting too- no way.
And BTW "idiot", it's not the screen- IT'S THE OS.
I just don't understand why everyone is so in love with this tablet idea. These things have such an exceedingly limited usefulness.
Do you really want to keep it flat on your lap while you type on it? Because that won't add an incredible amount of strain to your neck or anything. Or maybe you can hold it up with one hand, and type with the other one. Yeah, that'll be a blast. Try it now with your keyboard. Hold it up with one hand and type with the other. See how long you keep that up.
I think the assumption here is that you would thumb type on it. The iPhone in portrait mode is an excellent thumb typing device, if a bit cramped. The same keyboard 50% bigger would be an almost perfect set-up IMO.
... good luck visiting any Flash-based websites and not wanting to throw that $700 tablet like a frisbee.
Except that won't be any different from the iPhone and the iPod touch which are both selling rather well right now and which people seem to love.
... If there were no more client-side hard drives, if everything (including your applications) was stored on the internet and you could access it anywhere, then maybe something like this - essentially just a portable window to the internet - might be useful. Otherwise, as a second computer, this thing is going to be a $700 paperweight.
Here you are missing the obvious. Mac users already have those options.
I'm a Mac user and I have MobileMe and a Time Capsule at home. I can access all my data through BackToMyMac whether it's in the cloud or on any of my computers or my networked hard drives, no matter where the computers are, from anywhere in the world. Already. Today.
... I've been wrong before...
Maybe it'll turn out to be real. After all, we waited for an Apple phone for a long long time. But "don't hold your breath" is right.
Do you EVER have anything nice to say about Apple?
I was thinking along similar lines, mmm is there a member mute filter in this blog?