Uh... why would you be salivating over a laptop with a f'd up glossy screen? i wonder if you actually did see and play with one of them, or if you're making this up!
<picturing teckstud as either a 69 year old granny or a 10 year old kid just *pretending* to be a Mac user all this time>
1.) Because the screen is better than the prior MacBook's was.
2.) Love the firewire- who wouldn't? Apple obviously made a mistake and has corrected it.
3.) Love the SD slot.
4.) Love the price.
5.) Love the size.
6.) And last but not least - love the speed and power.
I was just at Fifth Ave at lunch and check out the 2.53 Pros. 2 of them.
Life is full of compromises. There are a few changes I would have preferred but nothing is 100% perfect. Though this is close to it.
PS- Must you children resort to such petty name calling? Are we all not adults?
That depends, it's not so simple. The new $1699 15" doesn't have the 9600 graphics chip, the new one with the better graphics is $1999. The new models don't have the Express Card slot, if you want that in a 15", then now is the best time.
Dera jeff you plucking straws here. The new 15" 2.63 Ghz has TWO gpu chips FOR THE SAME PRICE as the fire sale one with one GPU chip. Any pro would want more gpu power. no ?
SD cards and USB sticks/stick adapters are plentiful.
I use FW a lot. Camcorder, card reader, external HD's. Daisy-chaining really does work. HD speed on multi-interface drive is superior on FireWire compared to USB 2.0.
Target disk mode will save your bacon someday and that is an exclusively FireWire-related technology.
FW800 is current technology, but the FW3200 has been ratified and even though USB 3.0 has a nominally faster throughput, experience shows that USB speeds are grossly overstated and slower nominal FW speeds give better real-world performance.
I use FW a lot. Camcorder, card reader, external HD's. Daisy-chaining really does work. HD speed on multi-interface drive is superior on FireWire compared to USB 2.0.
Target disk mode will save your bacon someday and that is an exclusively FireWire-related technology.
FW800 is current technology, but the FW3200 has been ratified and even though USB 3.0 has a nominally faster throughput, experience shows that USB speeds are grossly overstated and slower nominal FW speeds give better real-world performance.
Oh i know, FW is better all-round, but it seems like it's hardly used by the average user. All I see is USB this, USB that. The few FW hard drives I see, for example (and I hardly see any), are quite a bit more expensive than their USB counterparts.
Oh i know, FW is better all-round, but it seems like it's hardly used by the average user. All I see is USB this, USB that. The few FW hard drives I see, for example (and I hardly see any), are quite a bit more expensive than their USB counterparts.
Tranferring many gig's of data with a fire wire to a external hard drive is much faster than usb.
Much faster. How large is your photo/movie /music files ?? I have around one TB of stuff.
Oh i know, FW is better all-round, but it seems like it's hardly used by the average user. All I see is USB this, USB that. The few FW hard drives I see, for example (and I hardly see any), are quite a bit more expensive than their USB counterparts.
You're not mentioning video cameras, printers, Mac to Mac transfers. Many users use firewire- maybe just not you.
You're about to make me drive over to the Apple Store right now...
Everything about it looks and feels just right. And wow is it faster compared to the last macBook; and the screen is gorgeous. I was checking out the 2.53 gh,4GB of RAM model.
Uh... why would you be salivating over a laptop with a f'd up glossy screen?
The furor over glossy is way overrated.
And yes, I own and use daily a 15" UMBP. The one *with* the express card, thank you (I know they probably wanted the internal space back, but really - WTH?)
Actually it isn't when you have a LCD screen beneath - like the MacBook has/had and the iMac has. The strength and contrast of the light emitting makes the glare a lot less noticeable, therefor more pleasant.
I would suspect that the iMac's screen will get upgraded next and once it gets LED ,there will be a lot less glare even though it is under glass. To most it probably doesn't matter but to many it does.
Actually it isn't when you have a LCD screen beneath - like the MacBook has/had and the iMac has. The strength and contrast of the light emitting makes the glare a lot less noticeable, therefor more pleasant.
I would suspect that the iMac's screen will get upgraded next and once it gets LED ,there will be a lot less glare even though it is under glass. To most it probably doesn't matter but to many it does.
Fine. I will go look at the new ones firsthand some time in the next few days and report back here. My hopes are not high, but willing to go look for myself.
No it's not. I have been exclusively using Apple hardware since before many of the users here were born. Currently, they do not make a machine I can buy/use, at any price. That is inexcusable.
There have been many surveys done, and while the fine precision of such surveys can be questioned, the overall results cannot be ignored. Close to half prefer matte screens, and there are LOTS of people that will not buy glossy at all. There is no justifiable reason to not at least make matte an option - even if it's tacks on $50 like on the monster 17"ers.
too bad i just got my unibody low end model in janurary.
will definately consider upping to 15 incher come xmas time though. a slick deal indeed!
but combine these prices with education promotion and holy cow, get a free ipod or sell it on ebay, and take 100 bucks more off wow
Same here, got mine in late January along with the 24" Cinema Display. Since 90% of the time I use it hooked up to the display I love it. But when I do disconnect it I find the screen on the MacBook to be somewhat poor. That has me thinking about upgrading to the 13" MBPro later this year or early next year. I'm also glad they FINALLY added an SD slot. Besides that, I love my current 13" unibody. Very fast for most everything I do.
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Uh... why would you be salivating over a laptop with a f'd up glossy screen? i wonder if you actually did see and play with one of them, or if you're making this up!
<picturing teckstud as either a 69 year old granny or a 10 year old kid just *pretending* to be a Mac user all this time>
1.) Because the screen is better than the prior MacBook's was.
2.) Love the firewire- who wouldn't? Apple obviously made a mistake and has corrected it.
3.) Love the SD slot.
4.) Love the price.
5.) Love the size.
6.) And last but not least - love the speed and power.
I was just at Fifth Ave at lunch and check out the 2.53 Pros. 2 of them.
Life is full of compromises. There are a few changes I would have preferred but nothing is 100% perfect. Though this is close to it.
PS- Must you children resort to such petty name calling? Are we all not adults?
That depends, it's not so simple. The new $1699 15" doesn't have the 9600 graphics chip, the new one with the better graphics is $1999. The new models don't have the Express Card slot, if you want that in a 15", then now is the best time.
Dera jeff you plucking straws here. The new 15" 2.63 Ghz has TWO gpu chips FOR THE SAME PRICE as the fire sale one with one GPU chip. Any pro would want more gpu power. no ?
just saying .
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I've got my money ready to be spent. Let's go, apple!
question is: when are the new macbooks going to be available in the store?
I've got my money ready to be spent. Let's go, apple!
Always better to buy from the online apple store.
ALWAYS.
GOOD LUCK
Never used FW.
SD cards and USB sticks/stick adapters are plentiful.
I use FW a lot. Camcorder, card reader, external HD's. Daisy-chaining really does work. HD speed on multi-interface drive is superior on FireWire compared to USB 2.0.
Target disk mode will save your bacon someday and that is an exclusively FireWire-related technology.
FW800 is current technology, but the FW3200 has been ratified and even though USB 3.0 has a nominally faster throughput, experience shows that USB speeds are grossly overstated and slower nominal FW speeds give better real-world performance.
question is: when are the new macbooks going to be available in the store?
I've got my money ready to be spent. Let's go, apple!
I just saw them at lunchtime.
Long live FireWire!
I use FW a lot. Camcorder, card reader, external HD's. Daisy-chaining really does work. HD speed on multi-interface drive is superior on FireWire compared to USB 2.0.
Target disk mode will save your bacon someday and that is an exclusively FireWire-related technology.
FW800 is current technology, but the FW3200 has been ratified and even though USB 3.0 has a nominally faster throughput, experience shows that USB speeds are grossly overstated and slower nominal FW speeds give better real-world performance.
Oh i know, FW is better all-round, but it seems like it's hardly used by the average user. All I see is USB this, USB that. The few FW hard drives I see, for example (and I hardly see any), are quite a bit more expensive than their USB counterparts.
Oh i know, FW is better all-round, but it seems like it's hardly used by the average user. All I see is USB this, USB that. The few FW hard drives I see, for example (and I hardly see any), are quite a bit more expensive than their USB counterparts.
Tranferring many gig's of data with a fire wire to a external hard drive is much faster than usb.
Much faster. How large is your photo/movie /music files ?? I have around one TB of stuff.
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Oh i know, FW is better all-round, but it seems like it's hardly used by the average user. All I see is USB this, USB that. The few FW hard drives I see, for example (and I hardly see any), are quite a bit more expensive than their USB counterparts.
You're not mentioning video cameras, printers, Mac to Mac transfers. Many users use firewire- maybe just not you.
I just saw them at lunchtime.
Long live FireWire!
You're about to make me drive over to the Apple Store right now...
You're about to make me drive over to the Apple Store right now...
Everything about it looks and feels just right. And wow is it faster compared to the last macBook; and the screen is gorgeous. I was checking out the 2.53 gh,4GB of RAM model.
If I find a 15 inch MBP at the 'fire sale' for 1599, can I still get the $100 education discount and the free ipod touch?
Thanks
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If I find a 15 inch MBP at the 'fire sale' for 1599, can I still get the $100 education discount and the free ipod touch?
Thanks
Is it called fire sale because there was no firewire?
Uh... why would you be salivating over a laptop with a f'd up glossy screen?
The furor over glossy is way overrated.
And yes, I own and use daily a 15" UMBP. The one *with* the express card, thank you (I know they probably wanted the internal space back, but really - WTH?)
The furor over glossy is way overrated.
Actually it isn't when you have a LCD screen beneath - like the MacBook has/had and the iMac has. The strength and contrast of the light emitting makes the glare a lot less noticeable, therefor more pleasant.
I would suspect that the iMac's screen will get upgraded next and once it gets LED ,there will be a lot less glare even though it is under glass. To most it probably doesn't matter but to many it does.
1.) Because the screen is better than the prior MacBook's was.
2.) Love the firewire- who wouldn't? Apple obviously made a mistake and has corrected it.
3.) Love the SD slot.
4.) Love the price.
5.) Love the size.
6.) And last but not least - love the speed and power.
I was just at Fifth Ave at lunch and check out the 2.53 Pros. 2 of them.
Life is full of compromises. There are a few changes I would have preferred but nothing is 100% perfect. Though this is close to it.
this is rather amazing, given your previous disposition with regards to glossy screens.
1) interesting. we'll see...
2) sure, that's nice, but with an unusable screen, it's just a "nice to have"
3) relative to the display, this is virtually irrelevant. there are many options available.
4) i'm happy to pay for a usable screen.
5) i need a 15", but i understand the niceness of 13"
6) irrelevant; would be even better with a usable screen
PS- Must you children resort to such petty name calling? Are we all not adults?
ha, forgot the smiley. but i suspect our ages would reveal me to be closer to your father's age, kiddo!
Actually it isn't when you have a LCD screen beneath - like the MacBook has/had and the iMac has. The strength and contrast of the light emitting makes the glare a lot less noticeable, therefor more pleasant.
I would suspect that the iMac's screen will get upgraded next and once it gets LED ,there will be a lot less glare even though it is under glass. To most it probably doesn't matter but to many it does.
Fine. I will go look at the new ones firsthand some time in the next few days and report back here. My hopes are not high, but willing to go look for myself.
The furor over glossy is way overrated.
No it's not. I have been exclusively using Apple hardware since before many of the users here were born. Currently, they do not make a machine I can buy/use, at any price. That is inexcusable.
There have been many surveys done, and while the fine precision of such surveys can be questioned, the overall results cannot be ignored. Close to half prefer matte screens, and there are LOTS of people that will not buy glossy at all. There is no justifiable reason to not at least make matte an option - even if it's tacks on $50 like on the monster 17"ers.
too bad i just got my unibody low end model in janurary.
will definately consider upping to 15 incher come xmas time though. a slick deal indeed!
but combine these prices with education promotion and holy cow, get a free ipod or sell it on ebay, and take 100 bucks more off wow
Same here, got mine in late January along with the 24" Cinema Display. Since 90% of the time I use it hooked up to the display I love it. But when I do disconnect it I find the screen on the MacBook to be somewhat poor. That has me thinking about upgrading to the 13" MBPro later this year or early next year. I'm also glad they FINALLY added an SD slot. Besides that, I love my current 13" unibody. Very fast for most everything I do.