Unlike a previous poster, I don't see this as a property rights issue. If this was a great Frank Lloyd Wright national treasure like Falling Water, and some guy wanted to level it to build a tacky bourgeois McMansion, I'd say his property rights be damned. Some things ARE more important than property rights--they aren't absolute.
Yes, this is true, however, how much did it cost to renovate Falling Water? That house, and most of F.L.W.'s work are complete disasters building wise. Though he was a great designer, his building acumen lacked much. He constantly used to push the limits of his materials, and eventually the buildings would have to be almost completely renovated. In this case there is not enough evidence to suggest that this structure even comes close to Falling Water.
The house was determined by a professional to be significant. If this had not occurred, then the saga which followed would not have occurred.
Why do people want to continue to argue over facts which are NOT in dispute?
Oh, what BS. It is NOT historical. Just because it's big and old, doesn't mean it's historical. If you like I can refer you to a web page that has images of local (to the area of Woodside) historical Mansions.
By the way, I've been in that house... many times. I used to party in the ballroom with the previous owner's son... you know, the usual stuff... pot, booze, beer, coke, acid, etc. While it's nice and all, with beautiful details, it certainly isn't Historical.
I'm really glad that Steve Jobs overcame his illness. Can't we give him some privacy now though and concentrate our attentions on Apple?
Agreed. This really has no place on AI. Nobody gives a crap about Steve's living arangements. How about getting back to some real Apple news instead of these fluff pieces.
Agreed. This really has no place on AI. Nobody gives a crap about Steve's living arangements. How about getting back to some real Apple news instead of these fluff pieces.
Don't worry, I'm sure the next 50 threads on the iPhone will be coming.
The argument about the historic nature is not the argument, (although if you could please provide the name of the professional that did deem it as historic, I'd appreciate that). The argument is about the rights of the property owner. I would love to see the building restored, if not on site then restored elsewhere, but I do not agree at all that Steve Jobs be forced to pay for the relocation. This just flies in the face of the principles that this country was founded on. While, I don't agree with what Steve has done with the house and if it is true he bought a mansion in Memphis like the rumors say, I hope that doesn't fall to the same condition, I don't feel that if someone wants to move the house it should not be up to Mr. Jobs to pay, in most cases seen so far, over half of the cost to do it. To me, if the people are so inclined to save the building, then they need to put their money where their mouth is. There are a number of grants and incentives that can be filed to get the help.
He found somebody to take delivery of the pieces of the house, anyway. Who knows if the guy really plans on re-assembling it, he might just be some guy Jobs paid to grease the wheels of demolition.
They will save the organ (not the old liver), a few beams and recycle what they can. Nothing else is worth saving. it's an awkward house that should be demolished.
Oh, what BS. It is NOT historical. Just because it's big and old, doesn't mean it's historical. If you like I can refer you to a web page that has images of local (to the area of Woodside) historical Mansions.
Wrong, on all counts. For those who are interested in factual information, here is the original historic resources report, prepared by a professional architectural historian (whom I have known for many years), and the comments of a reviewer of that report.
By the way, I've been in that house... many times. I used to party in the ballroom with the previous owner's son... you know, the usual stuff... pot, booze, beer, coke, acid, etc. While it's nice and all, with beautiful details, it certainly isn't Historical.
Great, now hallucinations are qualifications. Just when you think it can't get any more bizarre...
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The house was determined by a professional to be significant. If this had not occurred, then the saga which followed would not have occurred.
Why do people want to continue to argue over facts which are NOT in dispute?
and was this "professional" hired by the same preservationists who are fighting Jobs' efforts? Most likely.
and was this "professional" hired by the same preservationists who are fighting Jobs' efforts? Most likely.
And your point is?
And your point?
That the analysis was about as valid as the ones sponsored by the smoking industry that said that nicotine was not addictive.
That the analysis was about as valid as the ones sponsored by the smoking industry that said that nicotine was not addictive.
Wow- do you believe the landing on the moon was faked?
And why are the preservationists "lying"?
Unlike a previous poster, I don't see this as a property rights issue. If this was a great Frank Lloyd Wright national treasure like Falling Water, and some guy wanted to level it to build a tacky bourgeois McMansion, I'd say his property rights be damned. Some things ARE more important than property rights--they aren't absolute.
Yes, this is true, however, how much did it cost to renovate Falling Water? That house, and most of F.L.W.'s work are complete disasters building wise. Though he was a great designer, his building acumen lacked much. He constantly used to push the limits of his materials, and eventually the buildings would have to be almost completely renovated. In this case there is not enough evidence to suggest that this structure even comes close to Falling Water.
The house was determined by a professional to be significant. If this had not occurred, then the saga which followed would not have occurred.
Why do people want to continue to argue over facts which are NOT in dispute?
Oh, what BS. It is NOT historical. Just because it's big and old, doesn't mean it's historical. If you like I can refer you to a web page that has images of local (to the area of Woodside) historical Mansions.
By the way, I've been in that house... many times. I used to party in the ballroom with the previous owner's son... you know, the usual stuff... pot, booze, beer, coke, acid, etc. While it's nice and all, with beautiful details, it certainly isn't Historical.
Here are some genuinely historical mansions near Jobs' place: http://gallery.me.com/macntek#100069
Wow- do you believe the landing on the moon was faked?
And why are the preservationists lying?
we're still trying to figure out if you're for real...
I'm really glad that Steve Jobs overcame his illness. Can't we give him some privacy now though and concentrate our attentions on Apple?
Agreed. This really has no place on AI. Nobody gives a crap about Steve's living arangements. How about getting back to some real Apple news instead of these fluff pieces.
Agreed. This really has no place on AI. Nobody gives a crap about Steve's living arangements. How about getting back to some real Apple news instead of these fluff pieces.
Don't worry, I'm sure the next 50 threads on the iPhone will be coming.
I'd love the organ
an organ transplant
Even worse was the demolition of the Larkin Building in Buffalo, designed by FLLW.
Agreed. That was horrible. But the Jackling House is no Larkin Building.
He found somebody to take delivery of the pieces of the house, anyway. Who knows if the guy really plans on re-assembling it, he might just be some guy Jobs paid to grease the wheels of demolition.
They will save the organ (not the old liver), a few beams and recycle what they can. Nothing else is worth saving. it's an awkward house that should be demolished.
No wonder he doesn't want to live in there anymore. Looks like something out of a horror film!
Seriously - his house reminds me of the Tower of Terror ride at California Adventures.
http://www.mouse-studios.com/WDS/ima...f-Terror02.jpg
Agreed. That was horrible. But the Jackling House is no Larkin Building.
Oh, it certainly is not.
Dude, you do know what you're dealing with on here for the most part- don't you?
Yes.
and was this "professional" hired by the same preservationists who are fighting Jobs' efforts? Most likely.
No.
Seriously - his house reminds me of the Tower of Terror ride at California Adventures.
http://www.mouse-studios.com/WDS/ima...f-Terror02.jpg
Reminds me of Grey garden , owned by Jackie O's cousins, the Beales.
And they actually lived in their mess- with racoons!
Oh, what BS. It is NOT historical. Just because it's big and old, doesn't mean it's historical. If you like I can refer you to a web page that has images of local (to the area of Woodside) historical Mansions.
Wrong, on all counts. For those who are interested in factual information, here is the original historic resources report, prepared by a professional architectural historian (whom I have known for many years), and the comments of a reviewer of that report.
http://www.woodsidetown.org/PDF/JHFinalEIR_4.pdf
By the way, I've been in that house... many times. I used to party in the ballroom with the previous owner's son... you know, the usual stuff... pot, booze, beer, coke, acid, etc. While it's nice and all, with beautiful details, it certainly isn't Historical.
Great, now hallucinations are qualifications. Just when you think it can't get any more bizarre...
http://www.woodsidetown.org/PDF/JHFinalEIR_4.pdf
Thank You