Deal between Jobs and investor would pave way for dream house

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  • Reply 21 of 96
    applestudapplestud Posts: 367member
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    Originally Posted by Dr Millmoss View Post


    The house was determined by a professional to be significant. If this had not occurred, then the saga which followed would not have occurred.



    Why do people want to continue to argue over facts which are NOT in dispute?



    and was this "professional" hired by the same preservationists who are fighting Jobs' efforts? Most likely.
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  • Reply 22 of 96
    teckstudteckstud Posts: 6,476member
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    and was this "professional" hired by the same preservationists who are fighting Jobs' efforts? Most likely.



    And your point is?
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  • Reply 23 of 96
    e1618978e1618978 Posts: 6,075member
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    And your point?



    That the analysis was about as valid as the ones sponsored by the smoking industry that said that nicotine was not addictive.
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  • Reply 24 of 96
    teckstudteckstud Posts: 6,476member
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    That the analysis was about as valid as the ones sponsored by the smoking industry that said that nicotine was not addictive.



    Wow- do you believe the landing on the moon was faked?

    And why are the preservationists "lying"?
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  • Reply 25 of 96
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    Unlike a previous poster, I don't see this as a property rights issue. If this was a great Frank Lloyd Wright national treasure like Falling Water, and some guy wanted to level it to build a tacky bourgeois McMansion, I'd say his property rights be damned. Some things ARE more important than property rights--they aren't absolute.



    Yes, this is true, however, how much did it cost to renovate Falling Water? That house, and most of F.L.W.'s work are complete disasters building wise. Though he was a great designer, his building acumen lacked much. He constantly used to push the limits of his materials, and eventually the buildings would have to be almost completely renovated. In this case there is not enough evidence to suggest that this structure even comes close to Falling Water.
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  • Reply 26 of 96
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    Originally Posted by Dr Millmoss View Post


    The house was determined by a professional to be significant. If this had not occurred, then the saga which followed would not have occurred.



    Why do people want to continue to argue over facts which are NOT in dispute?



    Oh, what BS. It is NOT historical. Just because it's big and old, doesn't mean it's historical. If you like I can refer you to a web page that has images of local (to the area of Woodside) historical Mansions.



    By the way, I've been in that house... many times. I used to party in the ballroom with the previous owner's son... you know, the usual stuff... pot, booze, beer, coke, acid, etc. While it's nice and all, with beautiful details, it certainly isn't Historical.



    Here are some genuinely historical mansions near Jobs' place: http://gallery.me.com/macntek#100069
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  • Reply 27 of 96
    tofinotofino Posts: 697member
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    Wow- do you believe the landing on the moon was faked?

    And why are the preservationists lying?



    we're still trying to figure out if you're for real...
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  • Reply 28 of 96
    mazda 3smazda 3s Posts: 1,613member
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    I'm really glad that Steve Jobs overcame his illness. Can't we give him some privacy now though and concentrate our attentions on Apple?



    Agreed. This really has no place on AI. Nobody gives a crap about Steve's living arangements. How about getting back to some real Apple news instead of these fluff pieces.
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  • Reply 29 of 96
    teckstudteckstud Posts: 6,476member
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    Agreed. This really has no place on AI. Nobody gives a crap about Steve's living arangements. How about getting back to some real Apple news instead of these fluff pieces.



    Don't worry, I'm sure the next 50 threads on the iPhone will be coming.
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  • Reply 30 of 96
    The argument about the historic nature is not the argument, (although if you could please provide the name of the professional that did deem it as historic, I'd appreciate that). The argument is about the rights of the property owner. I would love to see the building restored, if not on site then restored elsewhere, but I do not agree at all that Steve Jobs be forced to pay for the relocation. This just flies in the face of the principles that this country was founded on. While, I don't agree with what Steve has done with the house and if it is true he bought a mansion in Memphis like the rumors say, I hope that doesn't fall to the same condition, I don't feel that if someone wants to move the house it should not be up to Mr. Jobs to pay, in most cases seen so far, over half of the cost to do it. To me, if the people are so inclined to save the building, then they need to put their money where their mouth is. There are a number of grants and incentives that can be filed to get the help.
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  • Reply 31 of 96
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    I'd love the organ



    an organ transplant \
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  • Reply 32 of 96
    What I can't believe is that "lightning" didn't hit this house five years ago.
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  • Reply 33 of 96
    takeotakeo Posts: 449member
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    Even worse was the demolition of the Larkin Building in Buffalo, designed by FLLW.



    Agreed. That was horrible. But the Jackling House is no Larkin Building.
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  • Reply 34 of 96
    citycity Posts: 522member
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    He found somebody to take delivery of the pieces of the house, anyway. Who knows if the guy really plans on re-assembling it, he might just be some guy Jobs paid to grease the wheels of demolition.



    They will save the organ (not the old liver), a few beams and recycle what they can. Nothing else is worth saving. it's an awkward house that should be demolished.
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  • Reply 35 of 96
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    No wonder he doesn't want to live in there anymore. Looks like something out of a horror film!



    Seriously - his house reminds me of the Tower of Terror ride at California Adventures.



    http://www.mouse-studios.com/WDS/ima...f-Terror02.jpg
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  • Reply 36 of 96
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    Agreed. That was horrible. But the Jackling House is no Larkin Building.



    Oh, it certainly is not.
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  • Reply 37 of 96
    dr millmossdr millmoss Posts: 5,403member
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    Dude, you do know what you're dealing with on here for the most part- don't you?



    Yes.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AppleStud View Post


    and was this "professional" hired by the same preservationists who are fighting Jobs' efforts? Most likely.



    No.
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  • Reply 38 of 96
    teckstudteckstud Posts: 6,476member
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    Seriously - his house reminds me of the Tower of Terror ride at California Adventures.



    http://www.mouse-studios.com/WDS/ima...f-Terror02.jpg



    Reminds me of Grey garden , owned by Jackie O's cousins, the Beales.

    And they actually lived in their mess- with racoons!
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  • Reply 39 of 96
    dr millmossdr millmoss Posts: 5,403member
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    Oh, what BS. It is NOT historical. Just because it's big and old, doesn't mean it's historical. If you like I can refer you to a web page that has images of local (to the area of Woodside) historical Mansions.



    Wrong, on all counts. For those who are interested in factual information, here is the original historic resources report, prepared by a professional architectural historian (whom I have known for many years), and the comments of a reviewer of that report.



    http://www.woodsidetown.org/PDF/JHFinalEIR_4.pdf



    Quote:

    By the way, I've been in that house... many times. I used to party in the ballroom with the previous owner's son... you know, the usual stuff... pot, booze, beer, coke, acid, etc. While it's nice and all, with beautiful details, it certainly isn't Historical.



    Great, now hallucinations are qualifications. Just when you think it can't get any more bizarre...
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  • Reply 40 of 96
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    http://www.woodsidetown.org/PDF/JHFinalEIR_4.pdf






    Thank You
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