First I'm a bit disappointed with the lack of new hardware introductions today of the PC type. Some products are just due for refresh.
That however is not IPhone related, but even here I'm disappointed.
First; the phone costs way to much, especially if forced into a 2 year contract with Cingular. I'm hoping that by June they realize the errors of their ways and set a more reasonable price. I haven't seen Cingulars contract for this device, but lets face it it won't be to the users advantage.
Does anyone actually look at competitive offerings before making these comments??? The Palm Trea 750 is $499 with contract (before rebate and who knows about those in the future) and it only comes with 60 MB (that megabytes) of user accessible storage.
Companies don't always support features on phones they don't sell. you might be able to use your phone, but might find that some functionality is lost.
No doubt, Steve lived up to his pre-Macworld keynote teaser, i.e., " The first 30 years were just the beginning. Welcome to 2007.”
And now, with the announcement that the iPhone includes over 200 new patents and his final closing statement after Mayer finished and Steve thanked Macworld Expo attendees for coming, added, "We'll see you all soon," I expect a lot more annoucements and innovations to come and very quickly.
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…iPhone includes…a full QWERTY soft keyboard…. When users need to type, iPhone presents them with an elegant touch keyboard which is predictive to prevent and correct mistakes, making it much easier and more efficient to use than the small plastic keyboards on many smartphones.
It seems more than possible now that a new laptop or even a tablet could be coming. With the new "Mult-Touch" technology replacing the current mechanical keyboard. Placing two fingers on the spacebar and the keyboard becomes a trackpad.
In fact, why not include a cell phone with a multi-touch numeric keypad/dialpad on the right side.
Does anyone actually look at competitive offerings before making these comments??? The Palm Trea 750 is $499 with contract (before rebate and who knows about those in the future) and it only comes with 60 MB (that megabytes) of user accessible storage.
My Treo that I paid $399 for at Sprint, is now going for $299, both there and from Verison.
i hate to do this, but i just saw this at the bottom of the page of the iphone.
'This device has not been authorized as required by the rules of the Federal Communications Commission. This device is not, and may not be, offered for sale or lease, or sold or leased, until authorization is obtained'
...which is probably why it won't be shipping until June.
Not saying this works because I've never needed to unlock a phone. But that article or maybe another said it's best to tell your service provider that your are moving out the country and you need to unlock your phone. I don't know, I've never tried.
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Originally Posted by pistolero
That is incorrect. Cell phone companies are NOT required at all to provide any unlocking codes at all. however any individual or company can provide/sell the locks and the cell phone companies cannot sue to prevent it.
Well i guess this means more business for random phone unlocking companies. It's usually just a few keystrokes.
Your problems don't seem to be with the iPhone, instead, with functions like touchscreen electronics in general. Please, stay in chocolatelely Belgium, your design comments (Widgets instead of Safari!) I think contradict the general feelings of most Mac users. I could be wrong, but this is from my impressions.
Dear Ted, reading this thread I do realise that I am more a candyphone kind of profile i/o a smartphone guy! So, to all the smart people around here, enjoy this little baby from apple and please send some condolences to me. But make sure I can open it on my Candybar
I use Sprint, and we have a great plan, so I won't be switching carriers. BUT, since it has built in wifi, can't we use it on wireless networks and use ichat and such? I know it's alot, but I would pay 500 for it.
I thought you could port your number to different providers in the US? I might be wrong, we can't do so in Canada, but I have something nagging in the back of my head that I heard this at some point.
I think that in February, here in Canada, you'll end up owning your number. Though making a carrier give it to another might prove to be a chore.
I use Sprint, and we have a great plan, so I won't be switching carriers. BUT, since it has built in wifi, can't we use it on wireless networks and use ichat and such? I know it's alot, but I would pay 500 for it.
The $500 quoted price is the subsidised price for people who sign a 2 year contract with Cingular. There is no indication (as of yet) that there will be an unlocked version offered for sale by Apple.
No one is concern about the puny 5 hours battery life? Can anyone confirm if the 5-hr is the actually operating time and not including standby time?
5 hours is the talk/video/browsing time. Apple claims 16 hours of audio playback. I would assume that the standby time will be significantly more than this.
1. 8GB not enough to store music, pics, video, emails, messages, etc.
2. Cingular. Hopefully this will change in short time.
3. Paradigm shift in how we operate a phone. Most hold phone in hand and operate buttons with thumb of same hand. The tactile sensation of the button allows us to know where we should apply pressure to activate that button. How well this works with the iPhone remains to be seen. Will we now need to use two hands (one to hold phone and other to navigate)?
4. Cost of phone is known. What about the cost of the monthly plans.
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First I'm a bit disappointed with the lack of new hardware introductions today of the PC type. Some products are just due for refresh.
That however is not IPhone related, but even here I'm disappointed.
First; the phone costs way to much, especially if forced into a 2 year contract with Cingular. I'm hoping that by June they realize the errors of their ways and set a more reasonable price. I haven't seen Cingulars contract for this device, but lets face it it won't be to the users advantage.
Does anyone actually look at competitive offerings before making these comments??? The Palm Trea 750 is $499 with contract (before rebate and who knows about those in the future) and it only comes with 60 MB (that megabytes) of user accessible storage.
The law is good for 3 years.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2064707,00.asp
Interesting, but semi useful.
Companies don't always support features on phones they don't sell. you might be able to use your phone, but might find that some functionality is lost.
And now, with the announcement that the iPhone includes over 200 new patents and his final closing statement after Mayer finished and Steve thanked Macworld Expo attendees for coming, added, "We'll see you all soon," I expect a lot more annoucements and innovations to come and very quickly.
…iPhone includes…a full QWERTY soft keyboard…. When users need to type, iPhone presents them with an elegant touch keyboard which is predictive to prevent and correct mistakes, making it much easier and more efficient to use than the small plastic keyboards on many smartphones.
It seems more than possible now that a new laptop or even a tablet could be coming. With the new "Mult-Touch" technology replacing the current mechanical keyboard. Placing two fingers on the spacebar and the keyboard becomes a trackpad.
In fact, why not include a cell phone with a multi-touch numeric keypad/dialpad on the right side.
Thinner. Lighter.
Does anyone actually look at competitive offerings before making these comments??? The Palm Trea 750 is $499 with contract (before rebate and who knows about those in the future) and it only comes with 60 MB (that megabytes) of user accessible storage.
My Treo that I paid $399 for at Sprint, is now going for $299, both there and from Verison.
i hate to do this, but i just saw this at the bottom of the page of the iphone.
'This device has not been authorized as required by the rules of the Federal Communications Commission. This device is not, and may not be, offered for sale or lease, or sold or leased, until authorization is obtained'
...which is probably why it won't be shipping until June.
See here.
You're taking the fun out of it.
That is incorrect. Cell phone companies are NOT required at all to provide any unlocking codes at all. however any individual or company can provide/sell the locks and the cell phone companies cannot sue to prevent it.
Well i guess this means more business for random phone unlocking companies. It's usually just a few keystrokes.
...which is probably why it won't be shipping until June.
They probably also have to finish up the software, and then begin manufacture.
Your problems don't seem to be with the iPhone, instead, with functions like touchscreen electronics in general. Please, stay in chocolatelely Belgium, your design comments (Widgets instead of Safari!) I think contradict the general feelings of most Mac users. I could be wrong, but this is from my impressions.
Dear Ted, reading this thread I do realise that I am more a candyphone kind of profile i/o a smartphone guy! So, to all the smart people around here, enjoy this little baby from apple and please send some condolences to me. But make sure I can open it on my Candybar
I thought you could port your number to different providers in the US? I might be wrong, we can't do so in Canada, but I have something nagging in the back of my head that I heard this at some point.
I think that in February, here in Canada, you'll end up owning your number. Though making a carrier give it to another might prove to be a chore.
flick.
I use Sprint, and we have a great plan, so I won't be switching carriers. BUT, since it has built in wifi, can't we use it on wireless networks and use ichat and such? I know it's alot, but I would pay 500 for it.
The $500 quoted price is the subsidised price for people who sign a 2 year contract with Cingular. There is no indication (as of yet) that there will be an unlocked version offered for sale by Apple.
I think that in February, here in Canada, you'll end up owning your number. Though making a carrier give it to another might prove to be a chore.
flick.
Too bad you can't keep your number when you change area codes! (which I've done four times in the past 18 months!)
do we know if this uses a standard dock connector?
Yes, it does.
Zune :
4.4 in. x 2.4 in. x 0.6 in.
Weight: 5.6 ounces
iPhone :
4.5 x 2.4 x 0.46 inches
Weight : 4.8 ounces
and the iPhone has better battery life for music, and a bigger screen.
No one is concern about the puny 5 hours battery life? Can anyone confirm if the 5-hr is the actually operating time and not including standby time?
5 hours is the talk/video/browsing time. Apple claims 16 hours of audio playback. I would assume that the standby time will be significantly more than this.
1. 8GB not enough to store music, pics, video, emails, messages, etc.
2. Cingular. Hopefully this will change in short time.
3. Paradigm shift in how we operate a phone. Most hold phone in hand and operate buttons with thumb of same hand. The tactile sensation of the button allows us to know where we should apply pressure to activate that button. How well this works with the iPhone remains to be seen. Will we now need to use two hands (one to hold phone and other to navigate)?
4. Cost of phone is known. What about the cost of the monthly plans.
5. Not stated is phones 'stand-by' time.
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