I'm a PC user. Like every other PC user, I don't care about PPC. I don't know if OS X is stable, good, bad, or sky-blue pink.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Apple cares about PPC.
[quote]iMacs sold because they look nice and the marketing was spot on, and they turned out to be rather super so they carried on selling. OS X for Intel could sell because it looks nice and everyone know about Apple via the iMac, and hey, according to you guys it's rather super. So it should carry on selling, right?<hr></blockquote>
yes, but @ that point MSFT would step in and stop MSFT Mac OS apps. Bye-Bye Apple
[quote]As for apps, you can't get apps until you have an OS. First things first, I feel.<hr></blockquote>
I was talking about APPLE's apps. Yes, OS X x86 apps would come if Apple provided a compiler...
Apple's Apps would be where Apple would make its money on x86. But why would people buy them?
Francis also makes a good point about this as well.
If people can buy x86 machines and get both Windows and Mac OS X, why buy PPC machines?
Sorry for my ignorance, but what's the difference between "EOL" and "at the end of its life"? <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
I meant to erase, "EOL" and substitute "at the end of its life." Forgot the erasing part. EOL is usually a more technical term than what I was thinking. Sorry!
<strong>If something radically new is coming out maybe apple is using some new patented technology? Any way to check registered patents online?</strong><hr></blockquote>
So you don't use Mac OS X or photoshop or any apps MP aware, don't you ?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Well I do use Photoshop quite a bit actually, and I even write the odd multithreading app (www.davidfearon.com - there, you know who I am now), but I find that people still get terribly excited about having two processors without knowing what it means. You Apple chaps are obviously more savvy than that though, so hats off to you all.
jeromba- If you didn't have the great Apple apps to associate with Mac OS X, it would destroy the reasons that Mac OS X would be 'ported' any way. Those apps would have to be made available for Mac OS X for Intel to even be considered.
Just thought I'd summarise why OSX will NOT be ported to PC anytime soon:
01) Apple are good at what they do because they control the software AND the hardware to make them work seamlessly. The multitude of PC manufacturers would tear this to pieces!
02) Software makers would stop making PPC apps and would only make x86 apps - why do both?
03) Software makers would not be overjoyed at having to recompile their software AGAIN!
04) Apple would surely be concentrating on getting OSX right on PPC before they considered x86
05) i can only see Apple porting their server software to other platforms, not the desktop OS
07) I don't think Apple has much to gain from porting OSX to x86, unless they were going to stop making hardware, and that's not going to happen. They have everything to gain from attracting new users to their hardware/software combo by having funky-ass products and software not available on other platforms: iPod, iTunes, Final Cut Pro, etc
07b) ...and if they become an OS and software only manufacturer, they'll be competing head-on with Microsoft, and it'll be Netscape vs Explorer all over again. And I know who has the deeper pockets...
08) I think Steve Jobs would rather chew aluminum than port the Apple crown jewels to PC. I just don't think they'll do it.
I cant find any 'revealing' Apple patents that would indicate new stuff... They patent all their hardware design as invented by Steve Jobs himself and Jon Ive, which is interesting. I didnt know Jon Ive designed the Newton message pad... There are a few patents for PDA technology after the Newt was axed eg. styli but still too long ago.
<strong>08) I think Steve Jobs would rather chew aluminum than port the Apple crown jewels to PC. I just don't think they'll do it.</strong><hr></blockquote>
SJ is way to hip to chew aluminum. He'd chew titanium.
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I'm a PC user. Like every other PC user, I don't care about PPC. I don't know if OS X is stable, good, bad, or sky-blue pink.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Apple cares about PPC.
[quote]iMacs sold because they look nice and the marketing was spot on, and they turned out to be rather super so they carried on selling. OS X for Intel could sell because it looks nice and everyone know about Apple via the iMac, and hey, according to you guys it's rather super. So it should carry on selling, right?<hr></blockquote>
yes, but @ that point MSFT would step in and stop MSFT Mac OS apps. Bye-Bye Apple
[quote]As for apps, you can't get apps until you have an OS. First things first, I feel.<hr></blockquote>
I was talking about APPLE's apps. Yes, OS X x86 apps would come if Apple provided a compiler...
Apple's Apps would be where Apple would make its money on x86. But why would people buy them?
Francis also makes a good point about this as well.
If people can buy x86 machines and get both Windows and Mac OS X, why buy PPC machines?
Apple will never do it.
-Paul
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Sorry for my ignorance, but what's the difference between "EOL" and "at the end of its life"? <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
I meant to erase, "EOL" and substitute "at the end of its life." Forgot the erasing part. EOL is usually a more technical term than what I was thinking. Sorry!
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So you don't use Mac OS X or photoshop or any apps MP aware, don't you ?</strong><hr></blockquote>
No he is a PC user and states it clearly...
-Paul
<strong>If something radically new is coming out maybe apple is using some new patented technology? Any way to check registered patents online?</strong><hr></blockquote>
<a href="http://www.uspto.gov" target="_blank">www.uspto.gov</a>
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So you don't use Mac OS X or photoshop or any apps MP aware, don't you ?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Well I do use Photoshop quite a bit actually, and I even write the odd multithreading app (www.davidfearon.com - there, you know who I am now), but I find that people still get terribly excited about having two processors without knowing what it means. You Apple chaps are obviously more savvy than that though, so hats off to you all.
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<strong>Heh, this thread has become really funny.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Why funny?
Help him too... it's free
<strong>Helping Fran to have 900 post before the next teaser of apple.com
Help him too... it's free </strong><hr></blockquote>
Okay....
01) Apple are good at what they do because they control the software AND the hardware to make them work seamlessly. The multitude of PC manufacturers would tear this to pieces!
02) Software makers would stop making PPC apps and would only make x86 apps - why do both?
03) Software makers would not be overjoyed at having to recompile their software AGAIN!
04) Apple would surely be concentrating on getting OSX right on PPC before they considered x86
05) i can only see Apple porting their server software to other platforms, not the desktop OS
07) I don't think Apple has much to gain from porting OSX to x86, unless they were going to stop making hardware, and that's not going to happen. They have everything to gain from attracting new users to their hardware/software combo by having funky-ass products and software not available on other platforms: iPod, iTunes, Final Cut Pro, etc
07b) ...and if they become an OS and software only manufacturer, they'll be competing head-on with Microsoft, and it'll be Netscape vs Explorer all over again. And I know who has the deeper pockets...
08) I think Steve Jobs would rather chew aluminum than port the Apple crown jewels to PC. I just don't think they'll do it.
Here's to 1000!
Increasing the reply count one post at a time...
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<strong>08) I think Steve Jobs would rather chew aluminum than port the Apple crown jewels to PC. I just don't think they'll do it.</strong><hr></blockquote>
SJ is way to hip to chew aluminum. He'd chew titanium.