Blu-ray standard in next 24" iMac?
I was wondering what might make margins go from 36% to 29%.
No component costs I could think of could skew Apple margins so greatly as to drop 7% until I priced slimline Blu-Ray drives like the ones that go into iMacs. $999 MSRP retail, $850 street.
Blu-Ray standard in the iMac would trash its near term margins until drive costs dropped. Figure the drive would have to cost around $300 at OEM pricing given some of the laptop markups ($660 BTO for Dell).
20" iMac $1,199 2.0Ghz X1600
20" iMac $1,499 2.16 Ghz GeForce 7300 + Blu Ray
24" iMax $1,999 2.16 Ghz GeForce 7300 + Blu Ray
Maybe a CPU bump in there too...forget what the Meroms are up to.
Perhaps Blu-Ray only on the 24" iMac and just the CPU/GPU bump on the $1499 20" iMac.
Vinea
No component costs I could think of could skew Apple margins so greatly as to drop 7% until I priced slimline Blu-Ray drives like the ones that go into iMacs. $999 MSRP retail, $850 street.
Blu-Ray standard in the iMac would trash its near term margins until drive costs dropped. Figure the drive would have to cost around $300 at OEM pricing given some of the laptop markups ($660 BTO for Dell).
20" iMac $1,199 2.0Ghz X1600
20" iMac $1,499 2.16 Ghz GeForce 7300 + Blu Ray
24" iMax $1,999 2.16 Ghz GeForce 7300 + Blu Ray
Maybe a CPU bump in there too...forget what the Meroms are up to.
Perhaps Blu-Ray only on the 24" iMac and just the CPU/GPU bump on the $1499 20" iMac.
Vinea
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I was wondering what might make margins go from 36% to 29%.
No component costs I could think of could skew Apple margins so greatly as to drop 7% until I priced slimline Blu-Ray drives like the ones that go into iMacs. $999 MSRP retail, $850 street.
Blu-Ray standard in the iMac would trash its near term margins until drive costs dropped. Figure the drive would have to cost around $300 at OEM pricing given some of the laptop markups ($660 BTO for Dell).
20" iMac $1,199 2.0Ghz X1600
20" iMac $1,499 2.16 Ghz GeForce 7300 + Blu Ray
24" iMax $1,999 2.16 Ghz GeForce 7300 + Blu Ray
Maybe a CPU bump in there too...forget what the Meroms are up to.
Perhaps Blu-Ray only on the 24" iMac and just the CPU/GPU bump on the $1499 20" iMac.
Vinea
I don't know about you , but I would rather spend $600 on top end CPU and GPU upgrades, rather than an overrated DVD technology that I would never use. I'm fine with Blu-ray being a BTO option, but don't force it on me by making it standard, because I don't want it.
I was wondering what might make margins go from 36% to 29%.
No component costs I could think of could skew Apple margins so greatly as to drop 7% until I priced slimline Blu-Ray drives like the ones that go into iMacs. $999 MSRP retail, $850 street.
Vinea
What about LED Screens?
Re Blu-Ray, I personally think we will see this as a BTO option in the mac pro before the imac. Drives that read/write DVD's and read blu ray can be preordered from overclockers from £150 http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...=10&subcat=925
I dont think this would bump the price up too much.
I was wondering what might make margins go from 36% to 29%.
No component costs I could think of could skew Apple margins so greatly as to drop 7% until I priced slimline Blu-Ray drives like the ones that go into iMacs. $999 MSRP retail, $850 street.
Funny, the other day when Intel announced the price drop to some of the quad cores my head started spinning thinking of them being in new iMacs, but I thought they were too expensive. BD drives are as well LED backlit screens also seem costly. so it looks like I'll be waiting til Jan AGAIN. I do hope the wait is worth it next year.
Funny, the other day when Intel announced the price drop to some of the quad cores my head started spinning thinking of them being in new iMacs, but I thought they were too expensive. BD drives are as well LED backlit screens also seem costly. so it looks like I'll be waiting til Jan AGAIN. I do hope the wait is worth it next year.
Yeah, I don't see Blu-ray coming, definitely BTO though if it's available. LED maybe but if it's more expensive probably not. I could see a quad core chip though. If Apple made a 30" iMac, they could go a bit nuts with what they put in there.
No Blu-Ray in the iMac until 2008. LG's desktop-sized Blu-Ray combo drive (i.e. can't write Blu-Ray, just read it) will cost $400. Now remember that notebook drives (the kind Apple needs) will typically cost more. It would be too expensive as a BTO option and would probably force a second 24-inch model.
You just hit the nail on the head right there. Mac Pro is Apples flagship computer. They put everything new and expensive into the Mac Pro first and with the expense of these things it would be first a BTO option not a standard one.
You just hit the nail on the head right there. Mac Pro is Apples flagship computer. They put everything new and expensive into the Mac Pro first and with the expense of these things it would be first a BTO option not a standard one.
I disagree. I would say the MacBook Pro is the flagship. It was first to get the Intel Core Duo and the first pro machine to get the Core 2 Duo, whereas the dual-core G5 sold alongside the MacBook Pro for eight months. It has the best graphics card before BTO, and the most stock RAM.
I disagree. I would say the MacBook Pro is the flagship. It was first to get the Intel Core Duo and the first pro machine to get the Core 2 Duo, whereas the dual-core G5 sold alongside the MacBook Pro for eight months. It has the best graphics card before BTO, and the most stock RAM.
I don't think 'flagship' has much to do with it. I think the MacPro will get the BR drive first because typical MP users will need it before other mac users.
I don't think 'flagship' ahs much to do with it. I think the MacPro will get the BR drive first because Mac Pro typiucal MP users will need it before other mac users.
On that, I agree.
On that, I agree.
Sorry, I didn't realize how poorly that was worded until I saw your response.
17"/20"/24"
to
19"/22"/27"
with same resolution as 1440 x 900, 1680 x 1050, 1900 x 1200.
IMHO
1. More space
2. put real GPU
3. possible desktop CPU
4. now the later model LCD are common so more discounts from OEMs
5. bigger fonts
27" i think it is expensive now, it may go down in 6 months to 12 months time.
Blu-Ray drives are very expensive and very slow when burning DVDs or CDs. I don't expect Apple to enter the HD arena until there are drives out that can deal with both BR and HD-DVD disks.
It wouldnt be the first time Apple took a backwards "speed" step (pun intended ) in order to use new tech.
With LEDs BD and the quadcore thing, this is all frustrating AND great, great because Apple have us all guessing again.
The 24" iMac already has a 1080p screen there for use - no need for the TV . I'd be happy with a HDMI in rather than a Blu-ray drive built in. Cheaper and more useful.
Agreed. It'd be nice to see Apple adopt HDMI (in AND out would be best). HDCP annoys me, but it's pretty much becoming a standard so they ought to go for it.