secret "product transition" ?

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in Future Apple Hardware edited January 2014
"There is a secret "product transition" that will affect Apple's product margins, but which CFO Peter Oppenheimer can't talk about today. Whether this applies to the Mac, iPod, or another category is unclear."



Is it just wishful thinking to hope that the macbook pros are a big part of this transition?



Does the timing of MobileMe and the impending macbook pro refresh suggest something a little more revolutionary then just your typical macbook/macbook pro refresh? An industry shaking improvement to mobile computing?



Any thoughts on what else might be heading for a product transition? (its got to be something big enough to effect "Apple's product margins)
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  • Reply 1 of 23
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 33,407member
    My guess is a transition to all touch iPods, except for the nano and shuffle. The other possibility is the MacFolio 5.5"x8.5" multi-touch organizer/iPod/WiFi browser & easy-bake oven.
  • Reply 2 of 23
    hookhook Posts: 42member
    Well if they do introduce a microwave then that means that the only room they haven't addressed is the bathroom.



    However, i'm guessing you're a little closer to the mark on the ipod "transition" as opposed to an entirely new product line.
  • Reply 3 of 23
    olternautolternaut Posts: 1,376member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post


    My guess is a transition to all touch iPods, except for the nano and shuffle. The other possibility is the MacFolio 5.5"x8.5" multi-touch organizer/iPod/WiFi browser & easy-bake oven.



    I want MacFolio please. \
  • Reply 4 of 23
    It most likely means they're going to cut the sale price of the laptops, to be in line with competitor pricing. They said they didn't want to create an umbrella so its gotta be a price cut and most likely an updated product of their current lines
  • Reply 5 of 23
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 33,407member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by seano1685 View Post


    It most likely means they're going to cut the sale price of the laptops, to be in line with competitor pricing. They said they didn't want to create an umbrella so its gotta be a price cut and most likely an updated product of their current lines



    Thus lending further credence to the iPod touch full line theory. I've really been itching to get an iPod touch... this time will do it!
  • Reply 6 of 23
    olternautolternaut Posts: 1,376member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by seano1685 View Post


    It most likely means they're going to cut the sale price of the laptops, to be in line with competitor pricing. They said they didn't want to create an umbrella so its gotta be a price cut and most likely an updated product of their current lines



    Product transition dude. Is cutting prices a product transition? And its not an update either. Wanna bet?
  • Reply 7 of 23
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 33,407member
    There is a possibility that Apple would introduce other touch products, but it just makes financial sense that they'd expand offerings that use the same form factor as the touch, with memory/storage being the only difference. This would also push consumers hard toward the offerings in the iTunes/App Store.
  • Reply 8 of 23
    futurepastnowfuturepastnow Posts: 1,772member
    Apple has so many products, covering so many different markets, I'm not even going to guess...
  • Reply 9 of 23
    mjteixmjteix Posts: 563member
    The last time they used "product transition", I think it was for the launch of the alu iMac: new enclosure, "new prices", new chipset, significant speedbumps...



    This time it is obviously for the notebooks:

    - possibly new enclosure(s)

    - speedbump to Montevina (possibly up to 2.80GHz standard at a "standard" price)

    - possibly 13" LED LCDs for the MB

    - possibly a higher rez 15" display (1680x1050) and 1900x1200 standard for 17" display

    - move from DDR2-667 RAM to DDR3-XXXX RAM?

    - standard storage increase?

    All these could lower the margins if prices are about the same.



    Given the graphics features of the GM45/47 chipset, it is also possible that both the MB and MBP notebooks receive an IGP as well as dedicated graphics from nvidia/ati to offer the "graphics switching" capabilities. If this really works!



    The only price cut that may be possible is a $999 entry-level MB (from $1099).



    On the iPod front, it is possible that the iPod touch will get new prices/storage options, but I believe this will have more impact on the december quarter than on the september quarter.



    As far as really new products are concerned: MWSF 2009.
  • Reply 10 of 23
    zinfellazinfella Posts: 877member
    Well, Apple did say that all of their displays would be LED back lit by the end of 2009. That isn't something that you would do overnight, and they've already started.
  • Reply 11 of 23
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 33,407member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by zinfella View Post


    Well, Apple did say that all of their displays would be LED back lit by the end of 2009. That isn't something that you would do overnight, and they've already started.



    To drive significant sales at Apple these days, Apple must have a price point that is acceptable to consumers. Products fitting these "impulse sales" price points are iPhones and iPods, not their larger computer offerings. Key drivers for increased iPhone and iPod sales are iTunes and now the App Store. It only makes sense that they push products that will increase the availability of incremental income tschotschkes (I'd call them digital candy) on iTunes/App Store... again pointing toward an iPod touch full line or a so-called MacFolio.
  • Reply 12 of 23
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by hook View Post


    "There is a secret "product transition" that will affect Apple's product margins, but which CFO Peter Oppenheimer can't talk about today. Whether this applies to the Mac, iPod, or another category is unclear."



    Is it just wishful thinking to hope that the macbook pros are a big part of this transition?



    Does the timing of MobileMe and the impending macbook pro refresh suggest something a little more revolutionary then just your typical macbook/macbook pro refresh? An industry shaking improvement to mobile computing?



    Any thoughts on what else might be heading for a product transition? (its got to be something big enough to effect "Apple's product margins)



    Yes, this all makes me think it's about a very solid, cheep, multipurpose server.
  • Reply 13 of 23
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by hook View Post


    "There is a secret "product transition" that will affect Apple's product margins, but which CFO Peter Oppenheimer can't talk about today. Whether this applies to the Mac, iPod, or another category is unclear."



    Is it just wishful thinking to hope that the macbook pros are a big part of this transition?



    Does the timing of MobileMe and the impending macbook pro refresh suggest something a little more revolutionary then just your typical macbook/macbook pro refresh? An industry shaking improvement to mobile computing?



    Any thoughts on what else might be heading for a product transition? (its got to be something big enough to effect "Apple's product margins)



    laptops with real video cards and / or bigger then 13" screens at $1200 to $1500+



    A head less desktop in the $700 to $2200 price range?



    A lower cost 1 cpu mac pro At $1200 to $1500?



    Droping the mini price by $100 or more?



    $100 or free iphone with the 2 year deal?



    newton 2 / newton Touch?
  • Reply 14 of 23
    bbwibbwi Posts: 812member
    Why has nobody mentioned the o' so significant acquisition of PA Semi?
  • Reply 15 of 23
    ksecksec Posts: 1,569member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bbwi View Post


    Why has nobody mentioned the o' so significant acquisition of PA Semi?



    PA Semi? A Special Version of ARM Cortex A9 QuadCore instead of Intel X86?



    Highly unlikely
  • Reply 16 of 23
    futurepastnowfuturepastnow Posts: 1,772member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ksec View Post


    PA Semi? A Special Version of ARM Cortex A9 QuadCore instead of Intel X86?



    Highly unlikely



    Laughable. Apple is never going to use PA Semi's technology in its computers. It's for handheld devices like iPods and iPhones.
  • Reply 17 of 23
    olternautolternaut Posts: 1,376member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by FuturePastNow View Post


    Laughable. Apple is never going to use PA Semi's technology in its computers. It's for handheld devices like iPods and iPhones.



    Never say never. PA Semi is supposed to working on support chips that go along with a computer. Who knows what it would be but Apple can do whatever they want.
  • Reply 18 of 23
    irelandireland Posts: 17,798member
    Free iDildos for everyone!
  • Reply 19 of 23
    bbwibbwi Posts: 812member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by FuturePastNow View Post


    Laughable. Apple is never going to use PA Semi's technology in its computers. It's for handheld devices like iPods and iPhones.



    I guess that depends on your definition of computer. Is the iPhone a computer? What about the tablet they'll be releasing?



    Maybe they just bought PA Semi because they had nothing else to do with $300 million
  • Reply 20 of 23
    drazztikkadrazztikka Posts: 240member
    Maybe everything that has a screen will go touchscreen?
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