The two cases, the one from Apple.pro and from the Chinese forum do not match. The one from Apple.pro has tapered edges. Does the spy photo has tapered edges? No!
Don't forget that there is the MacBook and MacBook Pro, they might be photos of different cases because they are both about due for a design freshening. The general design theme of the current cases date back about six years now.
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Originally Posted by Zandros
Couldn't they trim a few millimetres off the display assembly?
They could, but I wonder how stiff that would be.
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Originally Posted by Lorre
With LED and, God forbid, OLED displays, they very well could!
I think those display technologies are still expensive in sizes usable for computers. Have you heard of the ~$1800 11" OLED TV?
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Originally Posted by merdhead
Why would you have a HDMI port when you can support HDCP over DVI (and use a converter cable) and the computer industry is moving toward DisplayPort?
Possible reasons: HDMI is a production standard and uses a reasonably small connector, and is a lot more readily available than a mini-DVI connector. I don't remember seeing DisplayPort on monitors or video cards yet.
Audio out, Audio in, Mini DVI, USB, another USB (yes, two USB ports side by side, like on the MacBooks), Ethernet, MagSafe port
If Apple is moving all the ports to the left side, what does that mean for the right side? Will there simply be nothing on the right side?
Doubt it. I think they're moving the slot-loading SuperDrive to the right side, just like the MacBooks. That...or we're looking at aluminum MacBooks (which doesn't seem realistic to me because the Pros are much more overdue for a facelift, not to mention the MacBook's MagSafe port is much smaller than the MacBook Pro's).
Apple cannot make the Macbook Pro much thinner than an inch, not if they intend to keep using high-end mobile processors and discrete GPUs. It's just not possible to cool those things in a thinner enclosure.
Instead, they're going to use tricks like tapered edges to make it look thinner, and if we assume both of those photos are real, they certainly could go together.
Well I only said an inch because I was reaching for "ridiculously thick" and that's the first measurement that came to mind. My point was only that the top in the first pic and the bottom in the second couldn't really be from the same machine unless it was ridiculously thick and ugly.
Couldn't they trim a few millimetres off the display assembly?
/Adrian
Sure, they could. Especially with the more advanced displays that are going to be available in the future, like OLED. That's why I said "much thinner than an inch." But those are extremely impractical at this time.
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Originally Posted by Virgil-TB2
Well I only said an inch because I was reaching for "ridiculously thick" and that's the first measurement that came to mind. My point was only that the top in the first pic and the bottom in the second couldn't really be from the same machine unless it was ridiculously thick and ugly.
The current Macbook Pro is, according to Apple, exactly 1.0 inch thick. That's with the lid closed, of course. Ridiculous?
Not necessarily thinner than the existing MBPros - the photo on the top is of the casing, and you can see through to the bottom, which suggests that there will be a piece on the bottom which may add more depth. We won't know until we see the whole thing.
I'm really disappointed that they seem to be going to the Macbook/Air keyboard. Although it looks a lot better than the existing Macbook pro keyboard, I find it pretty cheap feeling and less tactile in comparison.
The MacBook style keyboard (which I use) is really quite good, just a bit different. I much prefer it to the Pro style keyboard and I've used both for years.
Possible reasons: HDMI is a production standard and uses a reasonably small connector, and is a lot more readily available than a mini-DVI connector. I don't remember seeing DisplayPort on monitors or video cards yet.
DisplayPort has a lot of support amongst computer manufacturers. It provides a flexible, high speed, and expandable standard which supports external and internal monitors to very high resolutions. HDMI doesn't. Just because it's used in millions of TVs doesn't mean anything to the computer industry.
What about the whole 'The Brick is a way of making computers out of a single block of aluminium' thing? Surely the bottom of the case would be there if that was the case...
Without an opening, how would they attach the screen or put the internal components inside the laptop? Would the logic board slide in on a tray? Would the display module just bolt on without having to take the laptop apart?
DisplayPort has a lot of support amongst computer manufacturers. It provides a flexible, high speed, and expandable standard which supports external and internal monitors to very high resolutions. HDMI doesn't. Just because it's used in millions of TVs doesn't mean anything to the computer industry.
I don't assume support until there are products. It's easy to find monitors and projectors with HDMI. HDMI is less bandwidth limited. The latest version of HDMI is 10.2 Gbps, DisplayPort is 8.64 Gbps. There is nothing preventing HDMI's use for higher resolutions.
If I recall right, the main thing that the computer industry likes is that it's not encumbered with licensing fees, though $10k for membership and use is peanuts to the big monitor and graphic card companies, they might spend more on water in an hour of normal operation.
This is terrible news, IMO, if true because the PowerBook G4/MacBook Pro keyboards are the nicest that I've ever used on a laptop. The Air's keyboard looks nice but just doesn't feel as good to type on.
Audio out, Audio in, Mini DVI, USB, another USB (yes, two USB ports side by side, like on the MacBooks), Ethernet, MagSafe port
you forgot a Firewire 800 port. The latest port visible is probably the Ethernet port or another Firewire 800 port. (it looks slightly wider than the Firewire 800 port on the left (enough space for a Video out port a MagSafe power port and your Mini-DVI port is to small for a Mini-DVI port. It's even to small for the micro-DVI port like the MB air has, which is about the same size as an USB port. Maybe It's a Kensington cable lock slot.
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If Apple is moving all the ports to the left side, what does that mean for the right side? Will there simply be nothing on the right side?
Doubt it. I think they're moving the slot-loading SuperDrive to the right side, just like the MacBooks.
Indeed a super drive on the right makes a thin front a la MB air possible.
But since this is a Pro machine there should be an USB port on the right side too like the current MacBook Pro.
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That...or we're looking at aluminum MacBooks (which doesn't seem realistic to me because the Pros are much more overdue for a facelift,
That's a non issue. The fact this is a MBP lays in the fact that the space between the keyboard and the side is to large. It's the about the same space as the current MBP 15".
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not to mention the MacBook's MagSafe port is much smaller than the MacBook Pro's).
Nonsense... the MagSafe Power Adapter are interchangeable between MB (60W, which keeps your MBP up and running but hardly charges it) and the MBP MagSafe Power Adapter. (85W)
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The two cases, the one from Apple.pro and from the Chinese forum do not match. The one from Apple.pro has tapered edges. Does the spy photo has tapered edges? No!
Don't forget that there is the MacBook and MacBook Pro, they might be photos of different cases because they are both about due for a design freshening. The general design theme of the current cases date back about six years now.
Couldn't they trim a few millimetres off the display assembly?
They could, but I wonder how stiff that would be.
With LED and, God forbid, OLED displays, they very well could!
I think those display technologies are still expensive in sizes usable for computers. Have you heard of the ~$1800 11" OLED TV?
Why would you have a HDMI port when you can support HDCP over DVI (and use a converter cable) and the computer industry is moving toward DisplayPort?
Possible reasons: HDMI is a production standard and uses a reasonably small connector, and is a lot more readily available than a mini-DVI connector. I don't remember seeing DisplayPort on monitors or video cards yet.
Edit: Ah... they haven't put the plastic cover on yet. Never mind....
The image was inserted in Solidworks and I've created a Plane aligned with the foto perceptive.
This is a approximated measure in millimeters
By imm22 at 2008-10-08
Any one won't more measures?
Audio out, Audio in, Mini DVI, USB, another USB (yes, two USB ports side by side, like on the MacBooks), Ethernet, MagSafe port
If Apple is moving all the ports to the left side, what does that mean for the right side? Will there simply be nothing on the right side?
Doubt it. I think they're moving the slot-loading SuperDrive to the right side, just like the MacBooks. That...or we're looking at aluminum MacBooks (which doesn't seem realistic to me because the Pros are much more overdue for a facelift, not to mention the MacBook's MagSafe port is much smaller than the MacBook Pro's).
do you think we are going to see 15" Macbooks?
Not unless they are going in a complete opposite direction as to what the consumer wants.
Apple cannot make the Macbook Pro much thinner than an inch, not if they intend to keep using high-end mobile processors and discrete GPUs. It's just not possible to cool those things in a thinner enclosure.
Instead, they're going to use tricks like tapered edges to make it look thinner, and if we assume both of those photos are real, they certainly could go together.
Well I only said an inch because I was reaching for "ridiculously thick" and that's the first measurement that came to mind. My point was only that the top in the first pic and the bottom in the second couldn't really be from the same machine unless it was ridiculously thick and ugly.
Couldn't they trim a few millimetres off the display assembly?
/Adrian
Sure, they could. Especially with the more advanced displays that are going to be available in the future, like OLED. That's why I said "much thinner than an inch." But those are extremely impractical at this time.
Well I only said an inch because I was reaching for "ridiculously thick" and that's the first measurement that came to mind. My point was only that the top in the first pic and the bottom in the second couldn't really be from the same machine unless it was ridiculously thick and ugly.
The current Macbook Pro is, according to Apple, exactly 1.0 inch thick. That's with the lid closed, of course. Ridiculous?
Not necessarily thinner than the existing MBPros - the photo on the top is of the casing, and you can see through to the bottom, which suggests that there will be a piece on the bottom which may add more depth. We won't know until we see the whole thing.
I'm really disappointed that they seem to be going to the Macbook/Air keyboard. Although it looks a lot better than the existing Macbook pro keyboard, I find it pretty cheap feeling and less tactile in comparison.
The MacBook style keyboard (which I use) is really quite good, just a bit different. I much prefer it to the Pro style keyboard and I've used both for years.
Possible reasons: HDMI is a production standard and uses a reasonably small connector, and is a lot more readily available than a mini-DVI connector. I don't remember seeing DisplayPort on monitors or video cards yet.
DisplayPort has a lot of support amongst computer manufacturers. It provides a flexible, high speed, and expandable standard which supports external and internal monitors to very high resolutions. HDMI doesn't. Just because it's used in millions of TVs doesn't mean anything to the computer industry.
What about the whole 'The Brick is a way of making computers out of a single block of aluminium' thing? Surely the bottom of the case would be there if that was the case...
Without an opening, how would they attach the screen or put the internal components inside the laptop? Would the logic board slide in on a tray? Would the display module just bolt on without having to take the laptop apart?
DisplayPort has a lot of support amongst computer manufacturers. It provides a flexible, high speed, and expandable standard which supports external and internal monitors to very high resolutions. HDMI doesn't. Just because it's used in millions of TVs doesn't mean anything to the computer industry.
I don't assume support until there are products. It's easy to find monitors and projectors with HDMI. HDMI is less bandwidth limited. The latest version of HDMI is 10.2 Gbps, DisplayPort is 8.64 Gbps. There is nothing preventing HDMI's use for higher resolutions.
If I recall right, the main thing that the computer industry likes is that it's not encumbered with licensing fees, though $10k for membership and use is peanuts to the big monitor and graphic card companies, they might spend more on water in an hour of normal operation.
This is terrible news, IMO, if true because the PowerBook G4/MacBook Pro keyboards are the nicest that I've ever used on a laptop. The Air's keyboard looks nice but just doesn't feel as good to type on.
IHDMI is less bandwidth limited. The latest version of HDMI is 10.2 Gbps, DisplayPort is 8.64 Gbps.
DisplayPort can do 10.8Gb/s now. I couldn't care less if it's HDMi or DP, i just don't want the overly large DL-DVI used anymore.
Looking at the ports, from right to left, I see:
Audio out, Audio in, Mini DVI, USB, another USB (yes, two USB ports side by side, like on the MacBooks), Ethernet, MagSafe port
you forgot a Firewire 800 port. The latest port visible is probably the Ethernet port or another Firewire 800 port. (it looks slightly wider than the Firewire 800 port on the left (enough space for a Video out port a MagSafe power port and your Mini-DVI port is to small for a Mini-DVI port. It's even to small for the micro-DVI port like the MB air has, which is about the same size as an USB port. Maybe It's a Kensington cable lock slot.
If Apple is moving all the ports to the left side, what does that mean for the right side? Will there simply be nothing on the right side?
Doubt it. I think they're moving the slot-loading SuperDrive to the right side, just like the MacBooks.
Indeed a super drive on the right makes a thin front a la MB air possible.
But since this is a Pro machine there should be an USB port on the right side too like the current MacBook Pro.
That...or we're looking at aluminum MacBooks (which doesn't seem realistic to me because the Pros are much more overdue for a facelift,
That's a non issue. The fact this is a MBP lays in the fact that the space between the keyboard and the side is to large. It's the about the same space as the current MBP 15".
not to mention the MacBook's MagSafe port is much smaller than the MacBook Pro's).
Nonsense... the MagSafe Power Adapter are interchangeable between MB (60W, which keeps your MBP up and running but hardly charges it) and the MBP MagSafe Power Adapter. (85W)
Laser cut and water polished?
I believe it's simply a water flowjet cutter. This process has been around for years!