I'm assuming here that the rumours that these are TN panels are accurate. (Edit: Okay, I see above they are MVA)
I don't understand the timing, given that e-IPS panels are supposed to be on the market very soon, and should be price competitive with TN panels. In addition to their having the colour accuracy that Mac Users are accustomed to.
Maybe Apple locked up supplies of e-IPS panels early. Or maybe my info on e-IPS is wrong.
Looks like i'll be going back to Viewsonic when my Glass Apple Cinema HD Display goes.
I had a choice over this or the new aluminum ones (5 years ago). I made the right choice as the aluminum ones are crapping out. The glass ones look way better anyways. Always get 'wow' remarks when people come by the studio. They also sit better on a desk.
One of Apple's better products for sure. Except for the stupid ADC thing and the $150 adapter to make it go.
And yes, i've named the little dead spider inside the glass case, (most shipped with a tiny dead spider inside), his name is Earl.
Wish Apple would get back in the display game for the other 97% of us.
So we have "thick bezels" and "gloss". Why would anyone willfully want to pay money for that? Indeed, getting rid of the glossy-hell is the main reason to look outside Apple for other monitor choices.
"the third-party display sports a slightly lower resolution and not use LED backlighting like Apple's. It's also unclear from the CinemaView website whether the displays use lower-quality TN panels, and representatives for Collins didn't respond to requests for comment as of press time."
If you look at the other 'quality' products that they offer, I think you might get a better understanding about this company. First, most is just junk and only one of ten items is a shipping product while the rest are pre-orders.
For a company that has been in business since 1971, that is pretty pathetic offering. I would most definitely wait for this to ship and get reviewed before spending any money.
So we have "thick bezels" and "gloss". Why would anyone willfully want to pay money for that? Indeed, getting rid of the glossy-hell is the main reason to look outside Apple for other monitor choices.
Each to there own but i like the gloss screens better than the washed out looking screens you all seem to want...
Is this that Jack guy that used to run a fly by night operation making Mac peripherals years ago?
Jack Campbell, and yes it is (http://whois.domaintools.com/cinemaview.com). It's funny 'cause the ad copy reads just like his old stuff--the clearly inflated quality claims and sheer chutzpah to try to out-Apple Apple.
I'm definitely interested. And I like the extra wide bezel as it appears to frame the screen with more black, which is helpful when photo editing and colour correcting.
yeah maybe, except the quality of the panel makes color correcting pretty pointless.
In addition, for physiologic reasons (height of one's eyes) they should all line up with the tops of the screens, rather than the bottoms of the screens.
I, for one, spend most of my viewing near the top of the screen. The menus are there as well.
Ok, so they have miniDP, but do they support HDCP? You might be surprised if you find out that your shiny new monitor won't display your HD iTunes videos.
The monitors themselves don't look bad to me. But looking at the 10 products Collins America lists on their web site, it appears to me that only one is actually available for purchase at this time, despite their being 5 'current products' listed. Doesn't 'coming soon' mean something other than 'current'?
Yes. I was convicted in federal court in 1992 for a variety of bank fraud and income tax violations, and spent almost 5-years (1992 - 1997) in federal prison. If you're truly curious for details, you can read my extended biography here.
Even considering the rest of the page, do we want to be buying stuff from him?
These displays are really crappy. The 19" has a maximum resolution of 1440x900. even the 17" MBP has 1920x1200, and the 24" display only goes up to 1920x1080.
EDIT:
As an afterthought, I suppose these monitors are not really aimed at professionals.. They would go perfect with the Mac Mini. The Apple LED display costs $300 more then the Mac Mini, and no one would really spend that much more on a monitor.
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I don't understand the timing, given that e-IPS panels are supposed to be on the market very soon, and should be price competitive with TN panels. In addition to their having the colour accuracy that Mac Users are accustomed to.
Maybe Apple locked up supplies of e-IPS panels early. Or maybe my info on e-IPS is wrong.
They look like knocks offs....
I will pass.
Jack
CinemaView Staff
Whooa!
Is this that Jack guy that used to run a fly by night operation making Mac peripherals years ago?
I can't remember the name.
Anyone?
Looks like i'll be going back to Viewsonic when my Glass Apple Cinema HD Display goes.
I had a choice over this or the new aluminum ones (5 years ago). I made the right choice as the aluminum ones are crapping out. The glass ones look way better anyways. Always get 'wow' remarks when people come by the studio. They also sit better on a desk.
One of Apple's better products for sure. Except for the stupid ADC thing and the $150 adapter to make it go.
And yes, i've named the little dead spider inside the glass case, (most shipped with a tiny dead spider inside), his name is Earl.
Wish Apple would get back in the display game for the other 97% of us.
If it's a matte finish I'll buy it.
The photo shows it to be "glossy."
So we have "thick bezels" and "gloss". Why would anyone willfully want to pay money for that? Indeed, getting rid of the glossy-hell is the main reason to look outside Apple for other monitor choices.
If it's a matte finish I'll buy it.
"the third-party display sports a slightly lower resolution and not use LED backlighting like Apple's. It's also unclear from the CinemaView website whether the displays use lower-quality TN panels, and representatives for Collins didn't respond to requests for comment as of press time."
You get what you pay for.
If you look at the other 'quality' products that they offer, I think you might get a better understanding about this company. First, most is just junk and only one of ten items is a shipping product while the rest are pre-orders.
For a company that has been in business since 1971, that is pretty pathetic offering. I would most definitely wait for this to ship and get reviewed before spending any money.
The photo shows it to be "glossy."
So we have "thick bezels" and "gloss". Why would anyone willfully want to pay money for that? Indeed, getting rid of the glossy-hell is the main reason to look outside Apple for other monitor choices.
Each to there own but i like the gloss screens better than the washed out looking screens you all seem to want...
Whooa!
Is this that Jack guy that used to run a fly by night operation making Mac peripherals years ago?
Jack Campbell, and yes it is (http://whois.domaintools.com/cinemaview.com). It's funny 'cause the ad copy reads just like his old stuff--the clearly inflated quality claims and sheer chutzpah to try to out-Apple Apple.
Buyer beware.
I'm definitely interested. And I like the extra wide bezel as it appears to frame the screen with more black, which is helpful when photo editing and colour correcting.
yeah maybe, except the quality of the panel makes color correcting pretty pointless.
These look like [email protected] dont care how cheap these are.
They look like knocks offs....
I will pass.
100% agreed. And if Apple is awarded a design patent on its displays and iMac, this company won't be selling for long if ever.
In addition, for physiologic reasons (height of one's eyes) they should all line up with the tops of the screens, rather than the bottoms of the screens.
I, for one, spend most of my viewing near the top of the screen. The menus are there as well.
For reference:
http://www.aboutjack.com/faq.shtml
And:
http://www.aboutjack.com/bio.html#bio
Have you been in prison?
Yes. I was convicted in federal court in 1992 for a variety of bank fraud and income tax violations, and spent almost 5-years (1992 - 1997) in federal prison. If you're truly curious for details, you can read my extended biography here.
Even considering the rest of the page, do we want to be buying stuff from him?
He still seems pretty shady..
http://www.macintouch.com/mactable.html
EDIT:
As an afterthought, I suppose these monitors are not really aimed at professionals.. They would go perfect with the Mac Mini. The Apple LED display costs $300 more then the Mac Mini, and no one would really spend that much more on a monitor.
Jack Campbell is back! What a blast from the past.
Ok ..all is clear now.
I'll take a 178/178 H-IPS any day of the week and twice on sunday.