FWIW, it's just a rendition of what the device likely looks like based on verbal descriptions. We used the iPhone materials as a basis for the rendition but I have no idea if it has chrome on it or not.
K
I hope not - it looks just like oversized iPod touch.
If it required so much time and effort (and going back to the drawing board) just to come up with magnified iPod, then Apple has serious creativity block... which I doubt.
One has to wonder (assuming this story is right in the particulars) why this device had to go back to the drawing board so many times if it's "just" an iPod touch with a much better screen. Actually, that probably pretty easy to answer: I would assume that this thing would need to be a bit more like the Mac OS while still keeping the features of the iPhone OS. I mean, you at least need a Finder, right? And the ability to edit iWork files.
I'm guessing it will boil down to keyboard-less netbook with OSX and Atom CPU (we already know that OSX can run confortably on netbooks), but I'd expect a twist or two - this would be too easy.
I highly doubt Apple will launch a 10" multitouch device. Why?
-A 10" inch capacitive multitouch screen of 1024x600 moreless resolution in expensive.
-To last an acceptable time, it have to have a good battery so it adds weigth to the device
-Working with a tablet it's the epitome of poor ergonomy. You must to hold it with the two hands so to write (in a virtual keyboard) you have to hold with one hand (tired) and write with the other, or hold it flat and look at it vertically and write.
I have never understood why everyone is willing to have an iTablet.
Please, make a 10"-11" Macbook and then yes, this can be the answer to netbooks, but an iTablet is not the answer to netbooks.
Still it could be interesting for eBook/eComics reading, video watching, music... plus occasional short email, txt message. Also, one can prepare his documents, presentations... at home/office on desktop/notebook, sync with tablet and read/review/light edit/present them from tablet on the run.
From all the rumors I've read, it does seem that this iTablet will be a media device like the iPod Touch. I can't wait. This will only draw more excitement about Multi-Touch control.
I personally hope that Apple will make a Mac-Like Multi-Touch device. Maybe something with this interface design:
i think these are the best concept mock ups i have ever seen,
they have completely changed my idea of what a tablet might look like, i was thinking it would just be an oversized iPodTouch, but now i see the future tablet as a real (capable) portable computer, something you would sync your iPhone or any iPod device too.
i think it would have at least 1 usb slot and cameras on the front and back,
I highly doubt Apple will launch a 10" multitouch device. Why?
-A 10" inch capacitive multitouch screen of 1024x600 moreless resolution in expensive.
-To last an acceptable time, it have to have a good battery so it adds weigth to the device
-Working with a tablet it's the epitome of poor ergonomy. You must to hold it with the two hands so to write (in a virtual keyboard) you have to hold with one hand (tired) and write with the other, or hold it flat and look at it vertically and write.
I have never understood why everyone is willing to have an iTablet.
Please, make a 10"-11" Macbook and then yes, this can be the answer to netbooks, but an iTablet is not the answer to netbooks.
Apple will screw it up. People will buy it anyway. The rest of us will sit and wait.
So long as Jobs and Ives team up on projects they will be impractical because they will have an absurd form factor that cripples the device and it will be one lacking essential capabilities that everyone else had some time ago.
Without Flash the device will be the same crippled internet device that the iPhone is. GPS on the iPhone is a freaking joke. Syncing data/video/music on the iPhone is just plain screwed if you have more than one Mac. Hello! Is anybody at home at Apple? It does not look like it. An SDHC/microSCHC card slot (that does not leave the card sticking out) is essential for transferring things back and forth should be required "basic equipment". If you want to carry different collections of music with you and swap them out without burdening the hard drive with carrying "everything" this is a simple and effective expedient.
Jobs is the reason it takes so long for a product to make it to market that it is outdated when it finally is released. Don't hold your breath.
Without Flash the device will be the same crippled internet device that the iPhone is.
If you can't do something well, don't do it all. There are no mobile devices that handle Flash well.
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Originally Posted by RBR
GPS on the iPhone is a freaking joke.
In what way?
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Originally Posted by RBR
Syncing data/video/music on the iPhone is just plain screwed if you have more than one Mac. Hello! Is anybody at home at Apple? It does not look like it.
Can you name a device that does it better without manual management? It is not "screwed", it is "not recommended", for obvious reasons.
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Originally Posted by RBR
An SDHC/microSCHC card slot (that does not leave the card sticking out) is essential for transferring things back and forth should be required "basic equipment". If you want to carry different collections of music with you and swap them out without burdening the hard drive with carrying "everything" this is a simple and effective expedient.
And lose the implicit security, speed, and user friendliness of a fully self-contained device? Good one.
If you can't do something well, don't do it all. There are no mobile devices that handle Flash well.
In what way?
Can you name a device that does it better without manual management? It is not "screwed", it is "not recommended", for obvious reasons.
And lose the implicit security, speed, and user friendliness of a fully self-contained device? Good one.
Obviously, you have not tried the GPS or you would know. +/- a quarter to a half mile is not useful at all.
Security? You have not read the analyses showing just how insecure they are and how corporate users have been snookered.
Steve promised "all the internet". Nobody forced him to make that claim. Without Flash you can not access a large part of the internet. I do not care for Flash, but it is the reality
"Not recommended for obvious reasons, eh?" It does not work well at all. You don't have the option to manage it.
Plainly, you either have little experience with the darned thing or are a very undemanding user.
If you have an iPhone, I am glad you enjoy it, but that does not make your delusions reality.
I hope not - it looks just like oversized iPod touch.
If it required so much time and effort (and going back to the drawing board) just to come up with magnified iPod, then Apple has serious creativity block... which I doubt.
As to the external appearance of the device, it is a tablet, there are not a lot of variables to work with here. Much like your namesake SLRs are constrained by functionality an previous hardware.
In any event all indications are that the internal hardware is the problem. There is very little innovation in the case of Apples devices rather all the good stuff is inside. If Apple really did punt and decided to go with a custom SoC then yeah we are talking years of development.
A slab off glass and a plastic back can be developed rather quickly.
In any e ent what would you expect a tablet to look like?
I'll believe it when Apple announces it. Why the need to jump the gun and report this stuff? Just wait until it's officially announced. This story is a big yawn.
The one thing I can't wrap my head around is who the audience is for a device like this. The internet has been clambering for it for at least a year now, but I haven't heard anyone justify it other than to say Apple needs something to compete with netbooks. A supposedly $800 device with no keyboard does not sound like a netbook replacement to me. People who buy netbooks want very cheap, basic computing.
This reminds me of Cut, Copy Paste on the iPhone. Everyone was demanding it for two years. Didn't waste an opportunity to tear Apple a new one for not including it. Now that we have it all I read is how little anyone is using it. How there's not that much need for it. Something tells me history is about to repeat itself.
Obviously, you have not tried the GPS or you would know. +/- a quarter to a half mile is not useful at all.
I don't know about your experience but my 1G iPhones (3) (no GPS radio) all give accuracy within 90 feet.
My 3G and 3GS (with GPS radio) usually give accuracy within 30 feet Reverse GPS identifies my address, the house on either side, across the street or the house behind.
I find it invaluable finding the location of, and directions to, all the various practice and playing fields as the new soccer season begins for 3 kids.
Obviously, you have not tried the GPS or you would know. +/- a quarter to a half mile is not useful at all.
Security? You have not read the analyses showing just how insecure they are and how corporate users have been snookered.
Steve promised "all the internet". Nobody forced him to make that claim. Without Flash you can not access a large part of the internet. I do not care for Flash, but it is the reality
"Not recommended for obvious reasons, eh?" It does not work well at all. You don't have the option to manage it.
Plainly, you either have little experience with the darned thing or are a very undemanding user.
If you have an iPhone, I am glad you enjoy it, but that does not make your delusions reality.
Dozens of millions enjoy it. You don't. It's not such a big deal.
Go buy (and enjoy) something else instead of whining.
I'll believe it when Apple announces it. Why the need to jump the gun and report this stuff? Just wait until it's officially announced. This story is a big yawn.
In case you didn't know it - I hate to tell you this - you are on an Apple rumor board!
Apple will screw it up. People will buy it anyway. The rest of us will sit and wait.
So long as Jobs and Ives team up on projects they will be impractical because they will have an absurd form factor that cripples the device and it will be one lacking essential capabilities that everyone else had some time ago.
Without Flash the device will be the same crippled internet device that the iPhone is. GPS on the iPhone is a freaking joke. Syncing data/video/music on the iPhone is just plain screwed if you have more than one Mac. Hello! Is anybody at home at Apple? It does not look like it. An SDHC/microSCHC card slot (that does not leave the card sticking out) is essential for transferring things back and forth should be required "basic equipment". If you want to carry different collections of music with you and swap them out without burdening the hard drive with carrying "everything" this is a simple and effective expedient.
Jobs is the reason it takes so long for a product to make it to market that it is outdated when it finally is released. Don't hold your breath.
Everything has flaws, if you are waiting for a perfect device from any company, you will never buy anything. I guess that would be good for the wallet.
-Working with a tablet it's the epitome of poor ergonomy. You must to hold it with the two hands so to write (in a virtual keyboard) you have to hold with one hand (tired) and write with the other, or hold it flat and look at it vertically and write.
I have never understood why everyone is willing to have an iTablet.
Thank you for saying this. I too have wondered why people want tablets. They are the ergonomic equivalent of the Vulcan Death Grip - hard to master and replete with unpleasant results.
If you think about the companies that have made tablets, none of them are known for their ergonomic prowess or even basic industrial design skills. I seriously doubt Apple will make a large tablet for this reason. The always popular (on the interwebs anyway) touchscreen computers suffer a similar problem. Your arms get tired trying to use the stupid thing! Hey, not everyone can be Tom Cruise in Minority Report. That guy must have a real set of guns.
<After four years of meticulous of developmental riddled with setbacks, Apple is now racing toward an early 2010 launch of a device that may see the electronics maker redefine the portable computing market for the second time in twice as many years.
>
A 42 word sentence that contains the phrase "for the second time in twice as many years" is pretty much common for articles on AppleInside HapplessInsider but it sure would be nice if someone with some editing skills was involved. (I tried really hard but could only come up with a rambling 40 word sentence of my own)
I won't mention leading of with "After four years of meticulous of development..." (Oops, just did)
Come on guys, we're interested in what is being said here but saying it so badly is painful to watch.
1) In some images, it appears that the entire inner portion of the clamshell is a single MultiTouch surface-- foldable OLED, perhaps.
2) I don't know about the "Magic Dock", a stand really-- it is very un-Apple
3) Ditto the stylus. Apple does have a patent where a MultiTouch surface can detect the position where a stylus would be, if you position your fingers as if holding a stylus-- so this could be implemented through software with a pop-up [offset] loupe for exact positioning and detail. A stylus or hockey puck could be an option, but not a requirement,
4) The second from the bottom image shows a dock. Apparently, the dock interfaces the computer through a single connector, then splits that connection into standard interfaces (USB, ethernet, FireWire, mini-display, etc).
5) This could be offered in several sizes including: hand-held, today's laptops, today's desktops and larger (non-portable).
I guess the question becomes not "will it blend?", but "can I stick it on the fridge?".
Agreed! I find myself thinking, "Damn, another 'must have' from Apple that I will buy!" Along, with my iPhone, iPods, MacBook, iMac, Time Capsule, AppleTV and attendant Apple Software.
Yes there is overlap, but damn they are all so beautiful!
I think whatever happens the Apple Tablet will be thin, elegant and functional. Oh, and there will be sw available in the app store!
Comments
FWIW, it's just a rendition of what the device likely looks like based on verbal descriptions. We used the iPhone materials as a basis for the rendition but I have no idea if it has chrome on it or not.
K
I hope not - it looks just like oversized iPod touch.
If it required so much time and effort (and going back to the drawing board) just to come up with magnified iPod, then Apple has serious creativity block... which I doubt.
One has to wonder (assuming this story is right in the particulars) why this device had to go back to the drawing board so many times if it's "just" an iPod touch with a much better screen. Actually, that probably pretty easy to answer: I would assume that this thing would need to be a bit more like the Mac OS while still keeping the features of the iPhone OS. I mean, you at least need a Finder, right? And the ability to edit iWork files.
I'm guessing it will boil down to keyboard-less netbook with OSX and Atom CPU (we already know that OSX can run confortably on netbooks), but I'd expect a twist or two - this would be too easy.
I hope it looks somewhat like this...
A lot of screen estate to be completely unprotected... hmm... maybe a flip cover of sort? Something you can toss back and use as stand/support?
I highly doubt Apple will launch a 10" multitouch device. Why?
-A 10" inch capacitive multitouch screen of 1024x600 moreless resolution in expensive.
-To last an acceptable time, it have to have a good battery so it adds weigth to the device
-Working with a tablet it's the epitome of poor ergonomy. You must to hold it with the two hands so to write (in a virtual keyboard) you have to hold with one hand (tired) and write with the other, or hold it flat and look at it vertically and write.
I have never understood why everyone is willing to have an iTablet.
Please, make a 10"-11" Macbook and then yes, this can be the answer to netbooks, but an iTablet is not the answer to netbooks.
Still it could be interesting for eBook/eComics reading, video watching, music... plus occasional short email, txt message. Also, one can prepare his documents, presentations... at home/office on desktop/notebook, sync with tablet and read/review/light edit/present them from tablet on the run.
From all the rumors I've read, it does seem that this iTablet will be a media device like the iPod Touch. I can't wait. This will only draw more excitement about Multi-Touch control.
I personally hope that Apple will make a Mac-Like Multi-Touch device. Maybe something with this interface design:
http://macslate.blogspot.com/
Of Course I might be a little biased since I made these concept designs
Picture from: http://www.flickr.com/photos/thenewtouch/
i think these are the best concept mock ups i have ever seen,
they have completely changed my idea of what a tablet might look like, i was thinking it would just be an oversized iPodTouch, but now i see the future tablet as a real (capable) portable computer, something you would sync your iPhone or any iPod device too.
i think it would have at least 1 usb slot and cameras on the front and back,
an sd slot would be a bonus
Good bye Kindle, wasn't nice knowing ya.
They aren't the same thing. This tablet will never beat the Kindle for battery life on a single charge, or easy-on-the-eyes reading. Different market.
I highly doubt Apple will launch a 10" multitouch device. Why?
-A 10" inch capacitive multitouch screen of 1024x600 moreless resolution in expensive.
-To last an acceptable time, it have to have a good battery so it adds weigth to the device
-Working with a tablet it's the epitome of poor ergonomy. You must to hold it with the two hands so to write (in a virtual keyboard) you have to hold with one hand (tired) and write with the other, or hold it flat and look at it vertically and write.
I have never understood why everyone is willing to have an iTablet.
Please, make a 10"-11" Macbook and then yes, this can be the answer to netbooks, but an iTablet is not the answer to netbooks.
Apple will screw it up. People will buy it anyway. The rest of us will sit and wait.
So long as Jobs and Ives team up on projects they will be impractical because they will have an absurd form factor that cripples the device and it will be one lacking essential capabilities that everyone else had some time ago.
Without Flash the device will be the same crippled internet device that the iPhone is. GPS on the iPhone is a freaking joke. Syncing data/video/music on the iPhone is just plain screwed if you have more than one Mac. Hello! Is anybody at home at Apple? It does not look like it. An SDHC/microSCHC card slot (that does not leave the card sticking out) is essential for transferring things back and forth should be required "basic equipment". If you want to carry different collections of music with you and swap them out without burdening the hard drive with carrying "everything" this is a simple and effective expedient.
Jobs is the reason it takes so long for a product to make it to market that it is outdated when it finally is released. Don't hold your breath.
Without Flash the device will be the same crippled internet device that the iPhone is.
If you can't do something well, don't do it all. There are no mobile devices that handle Flash well.
GPS on the iPhone is a freaking joke.
In what way?
Syncing data/video/music on the iPhone is just plain screwed if you have more than one Mac. Hello! Is anybody at home at Apple? It does not look like it.
Can you name a device that does it better without manual management? It is not "screwed", it is "not recommended", for obvious reasons.
An SDHC/microSCHC card slot (that does not leave the card sticking out) is essential for transferring things back and forth should be required "basic equipment". If you want to carry different collections of music with you and swap them out without burdening the hard drive with carrying "everything" this is a simple and effective expedient.
And lose the implicit security, speed, and user friendliness of a fully self-contained device? Good one.
If you can't do something well, don't do it all. There are no mobile devices that handle Flash well.
In what way?
Can you name a device that does it better without manual management? It is not "screwed", it is "not recommended", for obvious reasons.
And lose the implicit security, speed, and user friendliness of a fully self-contained device? Good one.
Obviously, you have not tried the GPS or you would know. +/- a quarter to a half mile is not useful at all.
Security? You have not read the analyses showing just how insecure they are and how corporate users have been snookered.
Steve promised "all the internet". Nobody forced him to make that claim. Without Flash you can not access a large part of the internet. I do not care for Flash, but it is the reality
"Not recommended for obvious reasons, eh?" It does not work well at all. You don't have the option to manage it.
Plainly, you either have little experience with the darned thing or are a very undemanding user.
If you have an iPhone, I am glad you enjoy it, but that does not make your delusions reality.
I hope not - it looks just like oversized iPod touch.
If it required so much time and effort (and going back to the drawing board) just to come up with magnified iPod, then Apple has serious creativity block... which I doubt.
As to the external appearance of the device, it is a tablet, there are not a lot of variables to work with here. Much like your namesake SLRs are constrained by functionality an previous hardware.
In any event all indications are that the internal hardware is the problem. There is very little innovation in the case of Apples devices rather all the good stuff is inside. If Apple really did punt and decided to go with a custom SoC then yeah we are talking years of development.
A slab off glass and a plastic back can be developed rather quickly.
In any e ent what would you expect a tablet to look like?
Dave
The one thing I can't wrap my head around is who the audience is for a device like this. The internet has been clambering for it for at least a year now, but I haven't heard anyone justify it other than to say Apple needs something to compete with netbooks. A supposedly $800 device with no keyboard does not sound like a netbook replacement to me. People who buy netbooks want very cheap, basic computing.
This reminds me of Cut, Copy Paste on the iPhone. Everyone was demanding it for two years. Didn't waste an opportunity to tear Apple a new one for not including it. Now that we have it all I read is how little anyone is using it. How there's not that much need for it. Something tells me history is about to repeat itself.
Obviously, you have not tried the GPS or you would know. +/- a quarter to a half mile is not useful at all.
I don't know about your experience but my 1G iPhones (3) (no GPS radio) all give accuracy within 90 feet.
My 3G and 3GS (with GPS radio) usually give accuracy within 30 feet Reverse GPS identifies my address, the house on either side, across the street or the house behind.
I find it invaluable finding the location of, and directions to, all the various practice and playing fields as the new soccer season begins for 3 kids.
Obviously, you have not tried the GPS or you would know. +/- a quarter to a half mile is not useful at all.
Security? You have not read the analyses showing just how insecure they are and how corporate users have been snookered.
Steve promised "all the internet". Nobody forced him to make that claim. Without Flash you can not access a large part of the internet. I do not care for Flash, but it is the reality
"Not recommended for obvious reasons, eh?" It does not work well at all. You don't have the option to manage it.
Plainly, you either have little experience with the darned thing or are a very undemanding user.
If you have an iPhone, I am glad you enjoy it, but that does not make your delusions reality.
Dozens of millions enjoy it. You don't. It's not such a big deal.
Go buy (and enjoy) something else instead of whining.
I'll believe it when Apple announces it. Why the need to jump the gun and report this stuff? Just wait until it's officially announced. This story is a big yawn.
In case you didn't know it - I hate to tell you this - you are on an Apple rumor board!
Apple will screw it up. People will buy it anyway. The rest of us will sit and wait.
So long as Jobs and Ives team up on projects they will be impractical because they will have an absurd form factor that cripples the device and it will be one lacking essential capabilities that everyone else had some time ago.
Without Flash the device will be the same crippled internet device that the iPhone is. GPS on the iPhone is a freaking joke. Syncing data/video/music on the iPhone is just plain screwed if you have more than one Mac. Hello! Is anybody at home at Apple? It does not look like it. An SDHC/microSCHC card slot (that does not leave the card sticking out) is essential for transferring things back and forth should be required "basic equipment". If you want to carry different collections of music with you and swap them out without burdening the hard drive with carrying "everything" this is a simple and effective expedient.
Jobs is the reason it takes so long for a product to make it to market that it is outdated when it finally is released. Don't hold your breath.
Everything has flaws, if you are waiting for a perfect device from any company, you will never buy anything. I guess that would be good for the wallet.
-Working with a tablet it's the epitome of poor ergonomy. You must to hold it with the two hands so to write (in a virtual keyboard) you have to hold with one hand (tired) and write with the other, or hold it flat and look at it vertically and write.
I have never understood why everyone is willing to have an iTablet.
Thank you for saying this. I too have wondered why people want tablets. They are the ergonomic equivalent of the Vulcan Death Grip - hard to master and replete with unpleasant results.
If you think about the companies that have made tablets, none of them are known for their ergonomic prowess or even basic industrial design skills. I seriously doubt Apple will make a large tablet for this reason. The always popular (on the interwebs anyway) touchscreen computers suffer a similar problem. Your arms get tired trying to use the stupid thing! Hey, not everyone can be Tom Cruise in Minority Report. That guy must have a real set of guns.
<After four years of meticulous of developmental riddled with setbacks, Apple is now racing toward an early 2010 launch of a device that may see the electronics maker redefine the portable computing market for the second time in twice as many years.
>
A 42 word sentence that contains the phrase "for the second time in twice as many years" is pretty much common for articles on AppleInside HapplessInsider but it sure would be nice if someone with some editing skills was involved. (I tried really hard but could only come up with a rambling 40 word sentence of my own)
I won't mention leading of with "After four years of meticulous of development..." (Oops, just did)
Come on guys, we're interested in what is being said here but saying it so badly is painful to watch.
ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzz........
http://www.yankodesign.com/2009/04/2...be-just-maybe/
The images are too big to post
I don't take credit for this concept, but
http://www.yankodesign.com/2009/04/2...be-just-maybe/
The images are too big to post
Very nice and some interesting concepts:
1) In some images, it appears that the entire inner portion of the clamshell is a single MultiTouch surface-- foldable OLED, perhaps.
2) I don't know about the "Magic Dock", a stand really-- it is very un-Apple
3) Ditto the stylus. Apple does have a patent where a MultiTouch surface can detect the position where a stylus would be, if you position your fingers as if holding a stylus-- so this could be implemented through software with a pop-up [offset] loupe for exact positioning and detail. A stylus or hockey puck could be an option, but not a requirement,
4) The second from the bottom image shows a dock. Apparently, the dock interfaces the computer through a single connector, then splits that connection into standard interfaces (USB, ethernet, FireWire, mini-display, etc).
5) This could be offered in several sizes including: hand-held, today's laptops, today's desktops and larger (non-portable).
I guess the question becomes not "will it blend?", but "can I stick it on the fridge?".
Agreed! I find myself thinking, "Damn, another 'must have' from Apple that I will buy!" Along, with my iPhone, iPods, MacBook, iMac, Time Capsule, AppleTV and attendant Apple Software.
Yes there is overlap, but damn they are all so beautiful!
I think whatever happens the Apple Tablet will be thin, elegant and functional. Oh, and there will be sw available in the app store!
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My exact situation. And this new 9x6in tablet will open a whole new road for apple .