Canalys Q3 2009: iPhone, RIM taking over smartphone market

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  • Reply 61 of 64
    richlrichl Posts: 2,213member
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    Originally Posted by melgross View Post


    This was still basically used as real time Os, even though it added the realtime kernel later.



    I really, really suggest you look up what Realtime OS means because Symbian isn't it. Let's not forget that it's often used as an example of a thoroughly modern operating system in textbooks.
  • Reply 62 of 64
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    The OS is weighted down by all this bolted on stuff, and is creaky and slow because of it. It also isn't reliable anymore. That's why Nokia is backing Meamo. I said, two years ago, that Nokia would leave Symbian for something else. They had no choice.



    Nokia is leaving Symbian. Period. Funny how people still cannot see their strategy. Funny that people still don't know the strategy even though some employees have accidentally even leaked their high-end strategy. Atm. Maemo is coming only to high-end devices which are targeted for nerds and "online" people. Symbian will still keep its position in other high-end devices (like E-series business phones) and throughout their whole product portfolio.



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    Don't say that. There were those here ho didn't believe that Nokia was going to abandon Symbian for their higher end phones either. It will find its way to cheaper phones as well. Just give it some time.



    And once more: Nokia is not abandoning Symbian in their high-end. And of course when phones develop even the most basic phones get smarter but that is just normal and has nothing to do with Nokia ditching Symbian or S40 or S30. S30 is probably slowly fading away in the next 10 years or so.



    And speculation about Nokia buying Palm is so passé. Palm is dead and it has been dead for at least 10 years. Little Pre hype in the US where smartphones were basically 5 years ago totally unknown species to mainstream audience is not going to change that.



    And Symbian definitely is smartphone OS. It may have lots of problems when you thing about developers and GUI, but Symbian has been working quite hard to fix those problems and Qt is the key to success, because of all the synergy it creates for Nokia, developers and customers.
  • Reply 63 of 64
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,510member
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    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    Looks like David Pogue decided this time and he choose App Phone after taking suggestions on Twitter.



    I just posted that on the Droid thread.



    His definition of a smartphone is pretty simple.
  • Reply 64 of 64
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,510member
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    Originally Posted by Eric Perduel View Post


    Nokia is leaving Symbian. Period. Funny how people still cannot see their strategy. Funny that people still don't know the strategy even though some employees have accidentally even leaked their high-end strategy. Atm. Maemo is coming only to high-end devices which are targeted for nerds and "online" people. Symbian will still keep its position in other high-end devices (like E-series business phones) and throughout their whole product portfolio.





    And once more: Nokia is not abandoning Symbian in their high-end. And of course when phones develop even the most basic phones get smarter but that is just normal and has nothing to do with Nokia ditching Symbian or S40 or S30. S30 is probably slowly fading away in the next 10 years or so.



    And speculation about Nokia buying Palm is so passé. Palm is dead and it has been dead for at least 10 years. Little Pre hype in the US where smartphones were basically 5 years ago totally unknown species to mainstream audience is not going to change that.



    And Symbian definitely is smartphone OS. It may have lots of problems when you thing about developers and GUI, but Symbian has been working quite hard to fix those problems and Qt is the key to success, because of all the synergy it creates for Nokia, developers and customers.



    I doubt the Nokia will still be using Symbian for anything other than cheaper, simpler phones two years from now.



    It looks as though people around the world will be switching to smartphones, and abandoning feature phones. Later, as more low end smartphones will be free, or less than $50, people will leave the simpler phones altogether.



    O2 is giving the Pre away with a two year contract. And so it starts.
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