There is going to be a lot of new, very nice looking tablets showing up on the market, but the biggest advantage that Apple has and everyone already knows about, is Itunes.
Not just iTunes. Apple has the whole end-to-end user experience vision thing. Lots of companies will come out with very nice tablets - many of them superior to whatever Apple releases, but they won't have the operating system, application development, application delivery, and user experience standards that Apple has and can enforce - plus content provider agreements. A few of them will have some nice software environments, but they won't have the brand strength that Apple has.
I don't think Microsoft will be able to get their act together to produce a "killer" tablet-tailored OS. They got burned good by Vista, but I don't see any evidence they have the laser focused vision that Steve Jobs provides to Apple's products. MS still sounds like it's a quagmire of competing VPs and divisions, etc. with everyone wanting to have an input and impact on the latest hot thing - tablets. That'll produce a muddy, bloated mess.
So I'll assert what should be obvious to anyone thinking rationally and not emotionally: Tablet is a nowhere category. For all the hype about an Apple tablet , it is at best a niche product. The world doesn't need an Apple tablet, no matter what the hype about rumored features or regardless of what actually releases (if anything).
or just wait until you can install a hackin-touch OS on your non-apple tablet...
Actually I have been using Win 7 (Hissssss) for months now and really like it. It has touch capability. A reasonably priced tablet running Win 7 will be a win for me. For me, it all comes down to price. I bought my 27" iMac because I feel you could not get a better deal anywhere else for that type of computer and screen but refuse to pay for a Macbook or Mac Desktop because I feel they are over priced. Remember, this is how I feel, I am sure others feel differently.
Aside from the jab at MS, in all seriousness, Apple will release a tablet, it'll be like nothing else out there, the tablet market will be reinvented, and MS will release a poor copy two years later when the rest of the market has already moved way beyond it.
Yep. Internet Explorer is a perfect example. MS comes in late, with an inferior product. We all know how that one turned out.
Oh goody! I cannot wait to see the slew of crappy horrible Microshft based tablets. These will all be described as Apple Tablet killers and will all be available shortly thereafter on overstock.com at a 95% discount.
At least once can say that Apple provides and creates hundreds of "jobs". Everyone spends tons of money being an apple killer and produces a boat load of crappy products.
There is going to be a lot of new, very nice looking tablets showing up on the market, but the biggest advantage that Apple has and everyone already knows about, is Itunes. Itunes is what has made the Ipod and Iphone so successful. I'm sure that Itunes is going to be redesigned to accommodate the new device. All of the apps that are available to the Iphone will probably be available to the new device plus there will probably be new sectors in Itunes to accommodate the new increased demands for the former print media. The way magazines, blogs, newspapers, and books have been available is going to change drastically.
Itunes is going to be a "one source" place for people to get all of their digital media.
I just do not see really needing iTunes for this device. I have my iPhone for that. I want something that is small, fun to use and can be productive in a pinch. Surf the net sitting on my couch (which I do with my iPhone now) and doing basic internet stuff. Im not sure I plan to watch movies on it or listen to music from it. Reading digital content is a great idea but all the major news agencies are not going to limit their products to only iTunes. There will be media readers for all platforms.
It doesn't matter that others might launch their tablets first. They've been launching them for years anyhow.
Apple was a latecomer to the MP3 player and smartphone markets and now look at where they are. Being first to market is not all that it's cracked up to be.
At least that's the opinion of one Apple shareholder.
Bingo.
Others may launch first, but that is immaterial. Given the current "coolness" factor of Apple products, to say nothing of superior functionality, only hardcore PC/Windows early adopters will buy before Apple releases their tablet. Others will wait.
BTW, to whomever claimed that Apple's sales pale in comparison to the alternatives, this is true if you compare Apple against everyone else, but when you compare Apple against any other single company (which is the more fair comparison), they're not doing too bad.
According to Barrons, WRT 3Q 2009:
"Acer overtook Dell Computer (DELL) as the world's second-largest PC maker. Acer's total PC sales reached 10.7 million for the third quarter, behind HP's 15.9 million"
According to Ars Technica:
"Apple shipped 2.6 million computers during the last quarter [meaning 3Q 2009]"
Apple is nowhere near the market leaders in unit sales. And when comparing OSX to the market as a whole, Apple is a niche player.
This is nothing to be ashamed of, but the facts are not in accord with your understanding of the computer market.
Lee Kai-fu said that the device combines the functions of a netbook, the Amazon Kindle, and an e-book reader.
isn't that redundant. cause the Kindle is an e-book reader.
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Last July, AppleInsider first reported that Apple's tablet would debut in the first quarter of 2010.
the thing is that Apple never reveals something without a release date. and sometimes that date is measured in days and weeks and not months. So Tell in January, release by July (perhaps to go with the unlocking of the iphone) if not sooner is likely. And there will be lots of hype in between.
are these other guys that close to release. cause no matter how pretty the prototypes are if they don't see the shelf way before the Apple device, they won't be much by way of competition
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Going out on a limb - It will not be called iSlate. In fact it won't be called "i" anything.
i will agree with the iXXXX. but I say it won't be anything touch cause that will cause confusion with the ipod touch. won't be Book cause that name has been used and they won't want an association with the now vastly underpowered laptop line. and it won't be Mac anything cause THE rumor is that it's an iphone os device. so something like ipod slate or ipod tablet does make sense, even if it lacks a sexy vibe to it.
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Originally Posted by Hellacool
I am waiting to see what Apple's price point will be. I think a tablet will be great, and knowing Apple their product will be awesome but I do not want to spend a fortune on it.
if you are expecting PC prices you'll be disappointed. the device is rumored to fit in between the iphone and the macbook so you can expect a price point of at least $699. if there's any kind of 3g service perhaps the carriers will offer some kind of subsidy or rebate for a data line but probably not more than $100-200.
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They are not dominating the phone space, however, but instead are in third place.
considering how many phones are out there, third ain't shabby
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And on the desktop, their sales are dwarfed by alternative choices.
if they wanted to make cheap machines and/or clones to kill off all the other companies they could and would. but they clearly don't want to. they are happy with a lower market share due to legal advantages. because they are small in the share, they can legally tying and control the hardware, which allows them to better control the quality of their software due to fewer variables. it also allows them to provide services like their Genius Bar without breaking the bank cause they don't have to train their people on every possible config in the world
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Originally Posted by Jerseymac
The iTab (my favorite name) will retail for $1500 bucks, be missing features other tablets have and will probably be tied to AT&T for it's content. I hope not, but probably so.
i will see you on
the name. they don't iXXXX anything anymore. although whatever it is, folks will probably shortened the name just like they do with the iTouch
the price. too high
the features. yeah, some will be missing cause Apple isn't looking to make a notebook that is flat, but other companies will probably attempt this.
the content. ATT has never been the source of content
ATT at all. this device will most likely be focusing on those that didn't get the iphone for one of several reasons, access included. any 3g/4g will likely be optional and I'm betting with both CDMA and GSM access unlocked for any carrier to pick up and add access to your existing cell phone account. this is also why I wouldn't be shocked if it releases for sale in the summer with the ATT gig hits 3 years and could hit the end.
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There is going to be a lot of new, very nice looking tablets showing up on the market, but the biggest advantage that Apple has and everyone already knows about, is Itunes.
i agree, in the sense that iTunes = content.
and content will be the key. all these rumors of a tv subscription service, digital magazines, lala music streaming. add all your existing media and apps. these are the things that will excite folks the most.
not that it comes in every color of the rainbow.
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Originally Posted by MacTripper
It only takes a few minutes of actual labor to reinstall Windows if it's hosed. Take the machine into the shop and "ghost" the drive from a master and go do something else while that's working. Return the machine in a hour, it's that simple.
same with a Mac. i do it all the time.
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Another fact is OS X is tied to hardware, if your business needs matte screen laptops for the road warriors, Apple doesn't sell them except in a very few models.
thing is that most businesses with road warriors aren't going to go for a 13 inch laptop. they will start at a 15. and typically they lean towards the high end so they have machines that won't be junk in a year or two. so going and getting that 2.8 Macbook pro ain't a huge deal. Especially since most areas have at least one store with a business associate and if you are buying in bulk or buy a lot over time there are discounts. they aren't huge but certainly they offset the $50 for the matte screen.
plus if something goes wrong with the computer, pretty much every major city in the US and a number overseas has an Apple store. which makes it real easy to find help. and help that is trained on your machine type (unlike places like Best Buy where they might know, might not)
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You want a real computer 10 years from now? It will be a Windows machine.
or not.
fact is that I've seen a lot of Macs used in businesses and some of them are 10 years old, give or take a year. they might not be doing big fancy things, but they work for what the owners need.
so in the end that's really the key. what are you doing with it. that decides if you go windows or mac. because for many a 'real computer' in the sense of biggest, baddest bits with the lowest price isn't the game. the game is if it can do what needs to be done in the best possible way.
For an accountant, it's likely Windows cause number crunching is number crunching.
but a high end editing house in LA is likely to use Final Cut, Logic etc. either just on Macs or with Mac connected to a Unix/Linux based render farm. but rarely will you see them using a Windows system.
Their goal is NOT to selflessly aid consumer well-being.
Their goal is to extract as much profit from the consumer as possible, given their available capital, and to and distribute that profit to shareholders.
While the two are not orthogonal, one is a means while the other is the end.
Mmmm...
Except, Apple does not distribute any profit to their shareholders.
If Freescale does indeed convince manufacturers to produce $200 tablets, I predict it might very well be Newton vs. Palm all over again.
The Newton (handwriting recognition problems aside) was *far* better than the Palm. But at $700, it just couldn't compete with the $200 Palm units.
BTW, I still own a Newton Message Pad 2100 and love the device. I was willing to pay nearly $1,000 for it and considered it a bargain. Granted, Apple has added a lot of people like me to its stable over the past 15 years, but it will be interesting to see if Apple's "Cool Factor" can overcome a $500 price difference in the tablet space. A lot of it may have to do with how atrocious the new tablets are and how quickly the other manufacturers can match Apple (and the smart phone copies suggest that Apple may have an advantage here).
BTW, to whomever claimed that Apple's sales pale in comparison to the alternatives, this is true if you compare Apple against everyone else, but when you compare Apple against any other single company (which is the more fair comparison), they're not doing too bad.
Or it could be like mac vs pc (low percentage of unit sales, high percentage of profits), or iPod vs mp3 player (high percentage of unit sales and high percentage of profits), or iPhone vs other phones which would fall somewhere in between those two. Also keep in mind that $200 would not be the cost to the consumer, but to manufacturers wishing to make use of the reference design.
Most likely the new closed UI replacing OS X UI, that I admit is speculation.
But one thing I do know, is machines and their UI get simpler to use over time and Apple is no exception.
these 2 things.
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Apple doesn't give a rats ass, they want to sell flashy devices to home consumers and be absolutely no threat to Microsoft and the PC industry at all.
Forget all about OS X taking over the world, it's not going to happen. Apple is already introducing a new closed UI on consumer devices and that's going to be their market.
He didn't have to buy anything (which you know), and all devices come with enabling software.
uh no. the ipod touch comes with the means to buy direct. although if you lose or break it you will be buying again. but existing music from your CDs still requires a computer
and none of the other ipods can buy direct. since the OP said ipod, perhaps the person has a nano. not a touch
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Originally Posted by Hellacool
I just do not see really needing iTunes for this device. I have my iPhone for that. I want something that is small, fun to use and can be productive in a pinch. Surf the net sitting on my couch (which I do with my iPhone now) and doing basic internet stuff.
as do many folks but the phone is too small to be effective for them
as for the other tasks. you might not want to watch video on it. but others might. so they will love it.
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Mmmm...
Except, Apple does not distribute any profit to their shareholders.
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so what do you think made the stock value go up over $200. especially after a drop to $80. I doubt it was just the rumors about this tablet and I know it wasn't the unseen pics of Steve Jobs shiny new liver cause the value had increased a nice deal before we even heard a rumor that that was what was going on.
could it have been Apple's sales numbers and profit reports. i'm thinking yeah.
Depending on one's geo-linguistic upbringing, "Macntouch" might sound rather perverted.
That said, I really doubt Apple will stick an "i" on the tablet's name, whatever it will be. Aside from iMacs and iPods, it would be gimmicky for Apple to continue placing an "i" on their new products' names (as if other companies aren't already overusing the "iwhatever" these days). Just my opinion.
Oh goody! I cannot wait to see the slew of crappy horrible Microshft based tablets. These will all be described as Apple Tablet killers and will all be available shortly thereafter on overstock.com at a 95% discount.
JD
Personally, I can't wait to see the slew of cool great Android based tablets.
If these guys can do it (which is not yet proven) then companies like Dell and HP and Asus can do it too. My guess is that all of them have multiple designs in various states of completion.
Well, I've said it before, but I'l say it again... I dunno whats wrong with the iBook name they already have. Seems the most sensible name to me.
What is it people fail to understand about the fact that books fold, tablets do not? Rhetorical question.
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Interesting. Any reason why you think that might be?
Because I think it will be called "Mac touch". The touchscreen iPod is called iPod touch, the touchscreen Mac will be called Mac touch. People keep trying to persuade me it won't have Mac in the name, as "it won't be a Mac", but I think they are thinking too small. Yes I know the whole Mac OS X UI would need to be changed so it makes sense on a tablet, but I think this thing will be more like a MacBook Air-without a physical keyboard, than it will be like a large iPod touch. If I had my way, this thing would be marketed as and called "Mac touch" for those reasons, and more.
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There is going to be a lot of new, very nice looking tablets showing up on the market, but the biggest advantage that Apple has and everyone already knows about, is Itunes.
Not just iTunes. Apple has the whole end-to-end user experience vision thing. Lots of companies will come out with very nice tablets - many of them superior to whatever Apple releases, but they won't have the operating system, application development, application delivery, and user experience standards that Apple has and can enforce - plus content provider agreements. A few of them will have some nice software environments, but they won't have the brand strength that Apple has.
I don't think Microsoft will be able to get their act together to produce a "killer" tablet-tailored OS. They got burned good by Vista, but I don't see any evidence they have the laser focused vision that Steve Jobs provides to Apple's products. MS still sounds like it's a quagmire of competing VPs and divisions, etc. with everyone wanting to have an input and impact on the latest hot thing - tablets. That'll produce a muddy, bloated mess.
- Jasen.
The world doesn't need an Apple tablet, or any other
http://www.betanews.com/joewilcox/ar...her/1262456214
So I'll assert what should be obvious to anyone thinking rationally and not emotionally: Tablet is a nowhere category. For all the hype about an Apple tablet , it is at best a niche product. The world doesn't need an Apple tablet, no matter what the hype about rumored features or regardless of what actually releases (if anything).
Utter crap, as per usual...
actually, his post is mostly correct.
or just wait until you can install a hackin-touch OS on your non-apple tablet...
Actually I have been using Win 7 (Hissssss) for months now and really like it. It has touch capability. A reasonably priced tablet running Win 7 will be a win for me. For me, it all comes down to price. I bought my 27" iMac because I feel you could not get a better deal anywhere else for that type of computer and screen but refuse to pay for a Macbook or Mac Desktop because I feel they are over priced. Remember, this is how I feel, I am sure others feel differently.
Aside from the jab at MS, in all seriousness, Apple will release a tablet, it'll be like nothing else out there, the tablet market will be reinvented, and MS will release a poor copy two years later when the rest of the market has already moved way beyond it.
Yep. Internet Explorer is a perfect example. MS comes in late, with an inferior product. We all know how that one turned out.
At least once can say that Apple provides and creates hundreds of "jobs". Everyone spends tons of money being an apple killer and produces a boat load of crappy products.
Oh well!
JD
There is going to be a lot of new, very nice looking tablets showing up on the market, but the biggest advantage that Apple has and everyone already knows about, is Itunes. Itunes is what has made the Ipod and Iphone so successful. I'm sure that Itunes is going to be redesigned to accommodate the new device. All of the apps that are available to the Iphone will probably be available to the new device plus there will probably be new sectors in Itunes to accommodate the new increased demands for the former print media. The way magazines, blogs, newspapers, and books have been available is going to change drastically.
Itunes is going to be a "one source" place for people to get all of their digital media.
I just do not see really needing iTunes for this device. I have my iPhone for that. I want something that is small, fun to use and can be productive in a pinch. Surf the net sitting on my couch (which I do with my iPhone now) and doing basic internet stuff. Im not sure I plan to watch movies on it or listen to music from it. Reading digital content is a great idea but all the major news agencies are not going to limit their products to only iTunes. There will be media readers for all platforms.
Point is there are several REAL reasons many companies continue to use MS products, but that's slowly but surely starting to change.
#1 on that list is the fact that MS products constitute the basis of the "IT full employment act."
As an IT and Security professional, I thank MS every day for assuring me a paycheck due to Windows' complexity and poor security.
How do you compete against something that does not exist
Bingo. You win a cookie.
The rest of industry is chasing Apple, even though they don't know yet where Apple is going.
Utter crap, as per usual...
So is your rebuttal.
actually, his post is mostly correct.
Thank you, what don't you agree with me upon?
Most likely the new closed UI replacing OS X UI, that I admit is speculation.
But one thing I do know, is machines and their UI get simpler to use over time and Apple is no exception.
It doesn't matter that others might launch their tablets first. They've been launching them for years anyhow.
Apple was a latecomer to the MP3 player and smartphone markets and now look at where they are. Being first to market is not all that it's cracked up to be.
At least that's the opinion of one Apple shareholder.
Bingo.
Others may launch first, but that is immaterial. Given the current "coolness" factor of Apple products, to say nothing of superior functionality, only hardcore PC/Windows early adopters will buy before Apple releases their tablet. Others will wait.
Thunder will not be stolen.
BTW, to whomever claimed that Apple's sales pale in comparison to the alternatives, this is true if you compare Apple against everyone else, but when you compare Apple against any other single company (which is the more fair comparison), they're not doing too bad.
According to Barrons, WRT 3Q 2009:
"Acer overtook Dell Computer (DELL) as the world's second-largest PC maker. Acer's total PC sales reached 10.7 million for the third quarter, behind HP's 15.9 million"
According to Ars Technica:
"Apple shipped 2.6 million computers during the last quarter [meaning 3Q 2009]"
Apple is nowhere near the market leaders in unit sales. And when comparing OSX to the market as a whole, Apple is a niche player.
This is nothing to be ashamed of, but the facts are not in accord with your understanding of the computer market.
Lee Kai-fu said that the device combines the functions of a netbook, the Amazon Kindle, and an e-book reader.
isn't that redundant. cause the Kindle is an e-book reader.
Last July, AppleInsider first reported that Apple's tablet would debut in the first quarter of 2010.
the thing is that Apple never reveals something without a release date. and sometimes that date is measured in days and weeks and not months. So Tell in January, release by July (perhaps to go with the unlocking of the iphone) if not sooner is likely. And there will be lots of hype in between.
are these other guys that close to release. cause no matter how pretty the prototypes are if they don't see the shelf way before the Apple device, they won't be much by way of competition
Going out on a limb - It will not be called iSlate. In fact it won't be called "i" anything.
i will agree with the iXXXX. but I say it won't be anything touch cause that will cause confusion with the ipod touch. won't be Book cause that name has been used and they won't want an association with the now vastly underpowered laptop line. and it won't be Mac anything cause THE rumor is that it's an iphone os device. so something like ipod slate or ipod tablet does make sense, even if it lacks a sexy vibe to it.
I am waiting to see what Apple's price point will be. I think a tablet will be great, and knowing Apple their product will be awesome but I do not want to spend a fortune on it.
if you are expecting PC prices you'll be disappointed. the device is rumored to fit in between the iphone and the macbook so you can expect a price point of at least $699. if there's any kind of 3g service perhaps the carriers will offer some kind of subsidy or rebate for a data line but probably not more than $100-200.
They are not dominating the phone space, however, but instead are in third place.
considering how many phones are out there, third ain't shabby
And on the desktop, their sales are dwarfed by alternative choices.
if they wanted to make cheap machines and/or clones to kill off all the other companies they could and would. but they clearly don't want to. they are happy with a lower market share due to legal advantages. because they are small in the share, they can legally tying and control the hardware, which allows them to better control the quality of their software due to fewer variables. it also allows them to provide services like their Genius Bar without breaking the bank cause they don't have to train their people on every possible config in the world
The iTab (my favorite name) will retail for $1500 bucks, be missing features other tablets have and will probably be tied to AT&T for it's content. I hope not, but probably so.
i will see you on
the name. they don't iXXXX anything anymore. although whatever it is, folks will probably shortened the name just like they do with the iTouch
the price. too high
the features. yeah, some will be missing cause Apple isn't looking to make a notebook that is flat, but other companies will probably attempt this.
the content. ATT has never been the source of content
ATT at all. this device will most likely be focusing on those that didn't get the iphone for one of several reasons, access included. any 3g/4g will likely be optional and I'm betting with both CDMA and GSM access unlocked for any carrier to pick up and add access to your existing cell phone account. this is also why I wouldn't be shocked if it releases for sale in the summer with the ATT gig hits 3 years and could hit the end.
There is going to be a lot of new, very nice looking tablets showing up on the market, but the biggest advantage that Apple has and everyone already knows about, is Itunes.
i agree, in the sense that iTunes = content.
and content will be the key. all these rumors of a tv subscription service, digital magazines, lala music streaming. add all your existing media and apps. these are the things that will excite folks the most.
not that it comes in every color of the rainbow.
It only takes a few minutes of actual labor to reinstall Windows if it's hosed. Take the machine into the shop and "ghost" the drive from a master and go do something else while that's working. Return the machine in a hour, it's that simple.
same with a Mac. i do it all the time.
Another fact is OS X is tied to hardware, if your business needs matte screen laptops for the road warriors, Apple doesn't sell them except in a very few models.
thing is that most businesses with road warriors aren't going to go for a 13 inch laptop. they will start at a 15. and typically they lean towards the high end so they have machines that won't be junk in a year or two. so going and getting that 2.8 Macbook pro ain't a huge deal. Especially since most areas have at least one store with a business associate and if you are buying in bulk or buy a lot over time there are discounts. they aren't huge but certainly they offset the $50 for the matte screen.
plus if something goes wrong with the computer, pretty much every major city in the US and a number overseas has an Apple store. which makes it real easy to find help. and help that is trained on your machine type (unlike places like Best Buy where they might know, might not)
You want a real computer 10 years from now? It will be a Windows machine.
or not.
fact is that I've seen a lot of Macs used in businesses and some of them are 10 years old, give or take a year. they might not be doing big fancy things, but they work for what the owners need.
so in the end that's really the key. what are you doing with it. that decides if you go windows or mac. because for many a 'real computer' in the sense of biggest, baddest bits with the lowest price isn't the game. the game is if it can do what needs to be done in the best possible way.
For an accountant, it's likely Windows cause number crunching is number crunching.
but a high end editing house in LA is likely to use Final Cut, Logic etc. either just on Macs or with Mac connected to a Unix/Linux based render farm. but rarely will you see them using a Windows system.
Their goal is NOT to selflessly aid consumer well-being.
Their goal is to extract as much profit from the consumer as possible, given their available capital, and to and distribute that profit to shareholders.
While the two are not orthogonal, one is a means while the other is the end.
Mmmm...
Except, Apple does not distribute any profit to their shareholders.
*
If Freescale does indeed convince manufacturers to produce $200 tablets, I predict it might very well be Newton vs. Palm all over again.
The Newton (handwriting recognition problems aside) was *far* better than the Palm. But at $700, it just couldn't compete with the $200 Palm units.
BTW, I still own a Newton Message Pad 2100 and love the device. I was willing to pay nearly $1,000 for it and considered it a bargain. Granted, Apple has added a lot of people like me to its stable over the past 15 years, but it will be interesting to see if Apple's "Cool Factor" can overcome a $500 price difference in the tablet space. A lot of it may have to do with how atrocious the new tablets are and how quickly the other manufacturers can match Apple (and the smart phone copies suggest that Apple may have an advantage here).
BTW, to whomever claimed that Apple's sales pale in comparison to the alternatives, this is true if you compare Apple against everyone else, but when you compare Apple against any other single company (which is the more fair comparison), they're not doing too bad.
Or it could be like mac vs pc (low percentage of unit sales, high percentage of profits), or iPod vs mp3 player (high percentage of unit sales and high percentage of profits), or iPhone vs other phones which would fall somewhere in between those two. Also keep in mind that $200 would not be the cost to the consumer, but to manufacturers wishing to make use of the reference design.
Thank you, what don't you agree with me upon?
Most likely the new closed UI replacing OS X UI, that I admit is speculation.
But one thing I do know, is machines and their UI get simpler to use over time and Apple is no exception.
these 2 things.
Apple doesn't give a rats ass, they want to sell flashy devices to home consumers and be absolutely no threat to Microsoft and the PC industry at all.
Forget all about OS X taking over the world, it's not going to happen. Apple is already introducing a new closed UI on consumer devices and that's going to be their market.
I'm curious... why would you lie to a friend?
He didn't have to buy anything (which you know), and all devices come with enabling software.
uh no. the ipod touch comes with the means to buy direct. although if you lose or break it you will be buying again. but existing music from your CDs still requires a computer
and none of the other ipods can buy direct. since the OP said ipod, perhaps the person has a nano. not a touch
I just do not see really needing iTunes for this device. I have my iPhone for that. I want something that is small, fun to use and can be productive in a pinch. Surf the net sitting on my couch (which I do with my iPhone now) and doing basic internet stuff.
as do many folks but the phone is too small to be effective for them
as for the other tasks. you might not want to watch video on it. but others might. so they will love it.
Mmmm...
Except, Apple does not distribute any profit to their shareholders.
*
so what do you think made the stock value go up over $200. especially after a drop to $80. I doubt it was just the rumors about this tablet and I know it wasn't the unseen pics of Steve Jobs shiny new liver cause the value had increased a nice deal before we even heard a rumor that that was what was going on.
could it have been Apple's sales numbers and profit reports. i'm thinking yeah.
The "T"mernator!
No?! How about "Macntouch" instead of Macintosh!
Depending on one's geo-linguistic upbringing, "Macntouch" might sound rather perverted.
That said, I really doubt Apple will stick an "i" on the tablet's name, whatever it will be. Aside from iMacs and iPods, it would be gimmicky for Apple to continue placing an "i" on their new products' names (as if other companies aren't already overusing the "iwhatever" these days). Just my opinion.
Oh goody! I cannot wait to see the slew of crappy horrible Microshft based tablets. These will all be described as Apple Tablet killers and will all be available shortly thereafter on overstock.com at a 95% discount.
JD
Personally, I can't wait to see the slew of cool great Android based tablets.
And I don't really care how they are described.
Check this one out, for example: http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/12/18...etter-be-real/
If these guys can do it (which is not yet proven) then companies like Dell and HP and Asus can do it too. My guess is that all of them have multiple designs in various states of completion.
Well, I've said it before, but I'l say it again... I dunno whats wrong with the iBook name they already have. Seems the most sensible name to me.
What is it people fail to understand about the fact that books fold, tablets do not? Rhetorical question.
Interesting. Any reason why you think that might be?
Because I think it will be called "Mac touch". The touchscreen iPod is called iPod touch, the touchscreen Mac will be called Mac touch. People keep trying to persuade me it won't have Mac in the name, as "it won't be a Mac", but I think they are thinking too small. Yes I know the whole Mac OS X UI would need to be changed so it makes sense on a tablet, but I think this thing will be more like a MacBook Air-without a physical keyboard, than it will be like a large iPod touch. If I had my way, this thing would be marketed as and called "Mac touch" for those reasons, and more.