Style is subjective. I don't think there's any one design that will make everyone happy, and in that respect I believe Android will win out here. The iPhone is a very good looking phone, but it's going to be at least 1 year between updates. In contrast, a new Android phone comes out every few months it seems. This means the style is updated faster as well as the specs.
And if you're calling the Nexus one clunky complicated and confusing, I think you're just plain wrong.
Possibly, I have never seen a Nexus one. I was referring to the Goggle services I am familiar with such as Adwords, Adsense, Mail, Analytics, and Docs. All of which I find unintuitive, complicated, and confusing, especially the menus.
Good style doesn't have to be updated as often as trendy. iPhone has changed very little style wise since its introduction in 2007.
Good god, man, you are drooling over Gmail and Google Calendar? You consider them revolutionary products? How much money is Google making on these?
Google does a lot of "me-too" stuff and gives it away, hoping they will make some money on these some day. Hah !!
Don't think that google has to make money on these products...they are simply a means in which to gather as much information as they possible can. That's where they make their money, tailoring and marketing information flow.
If Android is any indication, exponential growth is what happens.
If Google can match the processing power and 10 hour battery life, this device will take off.
Android is open source and the Android market is an open market. This all leads to higher competition, which leads to better products.
can you give me a few good examples of how that worked out for XXXX to dominate a product life cycle with their format in consumer electronics? Especially, I want to hear where it led to better products and higher competition (meaning more bang for the buck in each product sold)..
you are breathing fantasy here.. help me out with some examples..
can you give me a few good examples of how that worked out for XXXX to dominate a product life cycle with their format in consumer electronics? Especially, I want to hear where it led to better products and higher competition (meaning more bang for the buck in each product sold)..
you are breathing fantasy here.. help me out with some examples..
Microsoft Windows. Computer OS market is the only other market in which we can even make a comparison.
Google takes little risk? Have you ever heard of the Chrome OS? 7 second start up time, mainly cloud-based? No... that's not risky or a first at ALLLLL. But yeah, any GOOD OS that isn't Windows running on a tablet is a ripoff of Apple.
All I have to say is....remember the Danger Sidekick? And what happened to all the stuff that people stored on the cloud? Does that appeal to you? I will gladly wait the extra 30 seconds to boot a os that keeps my files locally. Bah, cloud based computing at this time, IMHO, is rubbish.
Style is subjective. I don't think there's any one design that will make everyone happy, and in that respect I believe Android will win out here. The iPhone is a very good looking phone, but it's going to be at least 1 year between updates. In contrast, a new Android phone comes out every few months it seems. This means the style is updated faster as well as the specs.
And if you're calling the Nexus one clunky complicated and confusing, I think you're just plain wrong.
How many people do you think are willing to buy a new Android phone every few months?
well, then your analogy is fictitious. Apple and its mobil products are consumer electronics products.. they follow a format like the cassette tape, or the CD or the DVD or the in-dash car stereo configuration (depth to work in most cars) and so on.
well, then your analogy is fictitious. Apple and its mobil products are consumer electronics products.. they follow a format like the cassette tape, or the CD or the DVD or the in-dash car stereo configuration (depth to work in most cars) and so on.
This article is talking about something that might be progressing beyond the conceptual stages. It could take two years before we ever see a Tablet from Google if ever.
Competition is not blatant duplication of another's idea. Where did you pick up such a warped philosophy?
Net neutrality is happy little phrase to make people feel good about a really bad concept.
As in all things in life, you should pay your own tab. You get charged for the phone minutes you use, why should the internet be any different? Hippies? Rainbows? Because you file share illegal stuff (the ONLY real world use for anonymous peer-to-peer swap protocols) and want everyone else to pay for it?
I'm sure you have some imagined scenario where a phantom evil corporation is somehow corrupting your perfect socialist bubble.
I propose that not only do bandwidth hogs get a higher bill, but they also lose their connection after a certain point.
The brave firefighters that ran into doomed skyscrapers on 9/11? Socialists.
Military men and women dying and losing limbs in our wars? Socialists.
Police? Socialists.
Libraries? Socialists.
Some things are important enough for us all to chip in. You shouldn't be asked for your credit card when your house is burning or your kid is kidnapped. Using these idealogical absolutes detracts from thoughtful discussions. Capitalism does great things but it isn't a form of government.
Capitalism destroyed communism. Now it's doing a number on democracy.
How many people do you think are willing to buy a new Android phone every few months?
I don't think he's saying that the same people will buy multiple phones month after month.
Instead, I think he is saying that more and more DIFFERENT people will buy more and more Android phones. And when the state of the art keeps getting better and better, with more and more cool phones hitting the market every few months, more and more people will see their friends' new cool phones.
And they will want a new phone.
And when they go shopping, they might not want a nearly-year old iPhone.
That's what a company can do when it controls its hardware and software--and has a long track record of making quality devices. Those of us that have used Macs for years already know fundamentally how the iPad will work. If one sees demonstrations they like and they are happy with the price it is a safe bet to buy sight-unseen. It has more to do with trust than "gushing" or being a fanboy.
P.S. Where is the "other half" of the internet that it can't play? Is it only available on Windows or something, because I've never seen it.
I have also used Apple products for years. I like some of there products and don't like others. Some of the things I don't like are very successful, that does not make them the best product for me.
If you go to Yahoo and try to play some of there video content on your Ipad you will see what I mean by the 'other half'. Flash may not be the perfect product but it is everywhere on the web. But if Apple tells you that you don't need it then that makes it easy for you. What is you definition of a fanboy?
The brave firefighters that ran into doomed skyscrapers on 9/11? Socialists.
Military men and women dying and losing limbs in our wars? Socialists.
Police? Socialists.
Libraries? Socialists.
Some things are important enough for us all to chip in. You shouldn't be asked for your credit card when your house is burning or your kid is kidnapped. Using these idealogical absolutes detracts from thoughtful discussions. Capitalism does great things but it isn't a form of government.
Capitalism destroyed communism. Now it's doing a number on democracy.
Great post! I don't know why people come in here and spout there off topic BS. Oxygenhose talks like some religious nut case about capitalism.
I have also used Apple products for years. I like some of there products and don't like others. Some of the things I don't like are very successful, that does not make them the best product for me.
If you go to Yahoo and try to play some of there video content on your Ipad you will see what I mean by the 'other half'. Flash may not be the perfect product but it is everywhere on the web. But if Apple tells you that you don't need it then that makes it easy for you. What is you definition of a fanboy?
As an electrical engineer I take Apple's stance on Flash at face value and believe that it's system requirements would negatively impact a battery-powered phone. It has nothing to do with Apple telling me I don't need it...although I haven't had it on my phone for 3 years and I don't miss it.
However, maybe it is obvious that Flash works perfectly on phones as evidenced by the Droid having Flash from day 1 and the Droid's ability to play that "other half" of the internet as we speak. Oh...wait...
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Except when it is not about file sharing but about favoring their own services in an anti-competitive way.
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Google has made noises about buying some of the tubes that carry the internets. Indeed, they are installing some fat pipes soon to lucky (?) cities.
Style is subjective. I don't think there's any one design that will make everyone happy, and in that respect I believe Android will win out here. The iPhone is a very good looking phone, but it's going to be at least 1 year between updates. In contrast, a new Android phone comes out every few months it seems. This means the style is updated faster as well as the specs.
And if you're calling the Nexus one clunky complicated and confusing, I think you're just plain wrong.
Possibly, I have never seen a Nexus one. I was referring to the Goggle services I am familiar with such as Adwords, Adsense, Mail, Analytics, and Docs. All of which I find unintuitive, complicated, and confusing, especially the menus.
Good style doesn't have to be updated as often as trendy. iPhone has changed very little style wise since its introduction in 2007.
its great when people allow marketing to tell them what to believe
Quit projecting your superstitions on others.
Mine are not BELIEFS--they're observations and predictions.
But then your attention span won't allow you to remember that.
Good god, man, you are drooling over Gmail and Google Calendar? You consider them revolutionary products? How much money is Google making on these?
Google does a lot of "me-too" stuff and gives it away, hoping they will make some money on these some day. Hah !!
Don't think that google has to make money on these products...they are simply a means in which to gather as much information as they possible can. That's where they make their money, tailoring and marketing information flow.
If Android is any indication, exponential growth is what happens.
If Google can match the processing power and 10 hour battery life, this device will take off.
Android is open source and the Android market is an open market. This all leads to higher competition, which leads to better products.
can you give me a few good examples of how that worked out for XXXX to dominate a product life cycle with their format in consumer electronics? Especially, I want to hear where it led to better products and higher competition (meaning more bang for the buck in each product sold)..
you are breathing fantasy here.. help me out with some examples..
Steve Jobs isn't going to be happy....
He may be pulling out the phrase "start your copiers" again, but this time in reference to Google.
can you give me a few good examples of how that worked out for XXXX to dominate a product life cycle with their format in consumer electronics? Especially, I want to hear where it led to better products and higher competition (meaning more bang for the buck in each product sold)..
you are breathing fantasy here.. help me out with some examples..
Microsoft Windows. Computer OS market is the only other market in which we can even make a comparison.
Google takes little risk? Have you ever heard of the Chrome OS? 7 second start up time, mainly cloud-based? No... that's not risky or a first at ALLLLL. But yeah, any GOOD OS that isn't Windows running on a tablet is a ripoff of Apple.
All I have to say is....remember the Danger Sidekick? And what happened to all the stuff that people stored on the cloud? Does that appeal to you? I will gladly wait the extra 30 seconds to boot a os that keeps my files locally. Bah, cloud based computing at this time, IMHO, is rubbish.
Style is subjective. I don't think there's any one design that will make everyone happy, and in that respect I believe Android will win out here. The iPhone is a very good looking phone, but it's going to be at least 1 year between updates. In contrast, a new Android phone comes out every few months it seems. This means the style is updated faster as well as the specs.
And if you're calling the Nexus one clunky complicated and confusing, I think you're just plain wrong.
How many people do you think are willing to buy a new Android phone every few months?
well, then your analogy is fictitious. Apple and its mobil products are consumer electronics products.. they follow a format like the cassette tape, or the CD or the DVD or the in-dash car stereo configuration (depth to work in most cars) and so on.
And a computer is not a consumer electronic?
Competition is not blatant duplication of another's idea. Where did you pick up such a warped philosophy?
Net neutrality is happy little phrase to make people feel good about a really bad concept.
As in all things in life, you should pay your own tab. You get charged for the phone minutes you use, why should the internet be any different? Hippies? Rainbows? Because you file share illegal stuff (the ONLY real world use for anonymous peer-to-peer swap protocols) and want everyone else to pay for it?
I'm sure you have some imagined scenario where a phantom evil corporation is somehow corrupting your perfect socialist bubble.
I propose that not only do bandwidth hogs get a higher bill, but they also lose their connection after a certain point.
The brave firefighters that ran into doomed skyscrapers on 9/11? Socialists.
Military men and women dying and losing limbs in our wars? Socialists.
Police? Socialists.
Libraries? Socialists.
Some things are important enough for us all to chip in. You shouldn't be asked for your credit card when your house is burning or your kid is kidnapped. Using these idealogical absolutes detracts from thoughtful discussions. Capitalism does great things but it isn't a form of government.
Capitalism destroyed communism. Now it's doing a number on democracy.
How many people do you think are willing to buy a new Android phone every few months?
I don't think he's saying that the same people will buy multiple phones month after month.
Instead, I think he is saying that more and more DIFFERENT people will buy more and more Android phones. And when the state of the art keeps getting better and better, with more and more cool phones hitting the market every few months, more and more people will see their friends' new cool phones.
And they will want a new phone.
And when they go shopping, they might not want a nearly-year old iPhone.
I think that is what he is saying.
How many people do you think are willing to buy a new Android phone every few months?
I would say most consumers upgrade when their contract allows them too which is about every 2 years.
That's what a company can do when it controls its hardware and software--and has a long track record of making quality devices. Those of us that have used Macs for years already know fundamentally how the iPad will work. If one sees demonstrations they like and they are happy with the price it is a safe bet to buy sight-unseen. It has more to do with trust than "gushing" or being a fanboy.
P.S. Where is the "other half" of the internet that it can't play? Is it only available on Windows or something, because I've never seen it.
I have also used Apple products for years. I like some of there products and don't like others. Some of the things I don't like are very successful, that does not make them the best product for me.
If you go to Yahoo and try to play some of there video content on your Ipad you will see what I mean by the 'other half'. Flash may not be the perfect product but it is everywhere on the web. But if Apple tells you that you don't need it then that makes it easy for you. What is you definition of a fanboy?
...tweaks...
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
- Inigo Montoya
The brave firefighters that ran into doomed skyscrapers on 9/11? Socialists.
Military men and women dying and losing limbs in our wars? Socialists.
Police? Socialists.
Libraries? Socialists.
Some things are important enough for us all to chip in. You shouldn't be asked for your credit card when your house is burning or your kid is kidnapped. Using these idealogical absolutes detracts from thoughtful discussions. Capitalism does great things but it isn't a form of government.
Capitalism destroyed communism. Now it's doing a number on democracy.
Great post! I don't know why people come in here and spout there off topic BS. Oxygenhose talks like some religious nut case about capitalism.
I have also used Apple products for years. I like some of there products and don't like others. Some of the things I don't like are very successful, that does not make them the best product for me.
If you go to Yahoo and try to play some of there video content on your Ipad you will see what I mean by the 'other half'. Flash may not be the perfect product but it is everywhere on the web. But if Apple tells you that you don't need it then that makes it easy for you. What is you definition of a fanboy?
As an electrical engineer I take Apple's stance on Flash at face value and believe that it's system requirements would negatively impact a battery-powered phone. It has nothing to do with Apple telling me I don't need it...although I haven't had it on my phone for 3 years and I don't miss it.
However, maybe it is obvious that Flash works perfectly on phones as evidenced by the Droid having Flash from day 1 and the Droid's ability to play that "other half" of the internet as we speak. Oh...wait...