But is Steve Jobs not a rich man? How about the Senior VPs (or whatever they call them) at Apple? Are they not rich too?
Would those guys upset the apple cart and hurt Apple's stock price?
What the heck kind of a distinction are you trying to make here? All big multinational corporations are run in the manner you describe, by the people you describe, Apple included.
While I don't necessarily agree with the sentiment of the original statement, it's worth pointing out that Ballmer is where he is today because he's an old FOB and a huge stockholder. On merit alone, a person of his limited talents does not rise to the rank of CEO of a major corporation. If Microsoft is going to have any hope of recapturing its former glories, Ballmer has to go.
While I don't necessarily agree with the sentiment of the original statement, it's worth pointing out that Ballmer is where he is today because he's an old FOB and a huge stockholder. On merit alone, a person of his limited talents does not rise to the rank of CEO of a major corporation. If Microsoft is going to have any hope of recapturing its former glories, Ballmer has to go.
I have little respect for Ballmer. I have little respect for Microsoft.
And I wonder if Steve surrounds himself with friends, or whether he hires folks he specifically dislikes. Somehow, from the media I have consumed, I am under the impression that Steve does not welcome dissent from his minions.
I have little respect for Ballmer. I have little respect for Microsoft.
And I wonder if Steve surrounds himself with friends, or whether he hires folks he specifically dislikes. Somehow, from the media I have consumed, I am under the impression that Steve does not welcome dissent from his minions.
Could be. I have yet to see a dissection of Ballmer's performance at Microsoft in the tech or business media, which is long overdue. I think they are just waking up to the fact that it's been pretty miserable, partly as a result of the arbitrary metric of comparative market cap between AAPL and MSFT.
Does balmer speak like an idiot ALL the time? Or just when he's on stage. He's speaking to the masses, maybe he has to dumb it down to be understood?
Joh Martello sums up Balmer really well:
A feature of Mr. Ballmer’s speaking style is that he takes a plain-folk approach. He does that because he’s the leader of 90+ percent of personal computer users. He has to be plain spoken and all inclusive in his chosen deceptions. To some, however, mostly on the opposition side, that approach makes him appear to be, with all respect, an idiot.
Could be. I have yet to see a dissection of Ballmer's performance at Microsoft in the tech or business media, which is long overdue. I think they are just waking up to the fact that it's been pretty miserable, partly as a result of the arbitrary metric of comparative market cap between AAPL and MSFT.
I see Microsoft as a company who, in the past, severely retarded the advancement of personal computers. Also, I once had a Widows phone, and I hated it.
I think that under Ballmer, Microsoft has blown significant opportunities. Just look at Vista. And WinCE.
It may be that the market cap news will inspire reviews and scrutiny.
I see Microsoft as a company who, in the past, severely retarded the advancement of personal computers. Also, I once had a Widows phone, and I hated it.
I think that under Ballmer, Microsoft has blown significant opportunities. Just look at Vista. And WinCE.
It may be that the market cap news will inspire reviews and scrutiny.
Well yes, the contributions made by Microsoft to the development of the industry are far overrated, but that's another topic.
The other big problem with Ballmer, aside from his mediocre management of Microsoft, is that he's been with the company for over 30 years. He's a product of an earlier phase of their growth and development and he doesn't seem to have the fresh perspective needed to move the company in a new direction. I have a feeling that if he retired or was retired, Microsoft would probably replace him internally with someone else with decades at the company. I don't think their corporate culture allows for the concept that anyone outside of Microsoft could possibly tell them anything they needed to know.
Well yes, the contributions made by Microsoft to the development of the industry are far overrated, but that's another topic.
The other big problem with Ballmer, aside from his mediocre management of Microsoft, is that he's been with the company for over 30 years. He's a product of an earlier phase of their growth and development and he doesn't seem to have the fresh perspective needed to move the company in a new direction. I have a feeling that if he retired or was retired, Microsoft would probably replace him internally with someone else with decades at the company. I don't think their corporate culture allows for the concept that anyone outside of Microsoft could possibly tell them anything they needed to know.
I have no real knowledge of the inside baseball aspects of Microsoft. I don't really have much interest in the personalities involved.
I am much more interested in the technology. And I would never bet against Microsoft. They have managed to do very very well, for a long long time.
For example, I have little or no interest in buying or using WinPhone 7, given the horrible experience I had with a Windows Phone. But I would be unsurprised if it became a major force in the smartphone industry.
I have no real knowledge of the inside baseball aspects of Microsoft. I don't really have much interest in the personalities involved.
I am much more interested in the technology. And I would never bet against Microsoft. They have managed to do very very well, for a long long time.
For example, I have little or no interest in buying or using WinPhone 7, given the horrible experience I had with a Windows Phone. But I would be unsurprised if it became a major force in the smartphone industry.
I might bet against Microsoft if it was a wager between them and someone else. They've really managed to squander what could well have been an insurmountable lead, had they known how to use their position in the market to their best advantage. Even Ballmer seems to have acknowledged that much.
I'm only interested in personalities to the extent that they have an impact on the markets for goods. I never had much appreciation for Bill Gates because his strategy seemed to have so little to with innovation and so much more to do with protecting the ground they'd already won, to the extent that it caused the company to have a risk-adverse corporate culture which I think is still very much in evidence. Obviously Apple has been a lot bolder in recent years, which has made their products more exciting by orders of magnitude, which has been rewarded with a far greater growth rate.
Microsoft may be a force for many years to come, just not a defining force. That mantle has been handed to others. Maybe Microsoft can get it back, but I think not without redefining the company -- which isn't going to happen with Ballmer in charge.
Awesome , The "Ballmer.exe , Ballmer.dll, Ballmer.sys"
-Lol.. The truth is; Android made this a three party political system. Android validated the linux end of the market which was the traditional competitor to MSFT. MSFT got fat and lazy and just stood there in awe as Apple drank their milkshake. I think MSFT would have followed suit, but anything they would/could do would be called out as a cheap attempt to 'copy' Apple. Lets not forget the power of the Apple patent attorney. So, Google & Apple were doing the 'my friends enemy is my friend' thing; until Android started taking market share. Apple's lawyers now had to defend against the classic doublestuff.
So, I think oddly, that MSFT did the right thing and failed. Good thing they didn't petition the government for a WinMobile bailout. They probably could have gotten one.
So. Where to from here?
Think Motorola + Microsoft & some new ideas. Convergence is occurring and our Ford dealership probably holds the next lineup of products in the Ballmer toolKITT. Funny enough, I don't think Ballmer realizes it yet. MSFT will build the first real KITT for Knight Industries.
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But is Steve Jobs not a rich man? How about the Senior VPs (or whatever they call them) at Apple? Are they not rich too?
Would those guys upset the apple cart and hurt Apple's stock price?
What the heck kind of a distinction are you trying to make here? All big multinational corporations are run in the manner you describe, by the people you describe, Apple included.
While I don't necessarily agree with the sentiment of the original statement, it's worth pointing out that Ballmer is where he is today because he's an old FOB and a huge stockholder. On merit alone, a person of his limited talents does not rise to the rank of CEO of a major corporation. If Microsoft is going to have any hope of recapturing its former glories, Ballmer has to go.
While I don't necessarily agree with the sentiment of the original statement, it's worth pointing out that Ballmer is where he is today because he's an old FOB and a huge stockholder. On merit alone, a person of his limited talents does not rise to the rank of CEO of a major corporation. If Microsoft is going to have any hope of recapturing its former glories, Ballmer has to go.
I have little respect for Ballmer. I have little respect for Microsoft.
And I wonder if Steve surrounds himself with friends, or whether he hires folks he specifically dislikes. Somehow, from the media I have consumed, I am under the impression that Steve does not welcome dissent from his minions.
I have little respect for Ballmer. I have little respect for Microsoft.
And I wonder if Steve surrounds himself with friends, or whether he hires folks he specifically dislikes. Somehow, from the media I have consumed, I am under the impression that Steve does not welcome dissent from his minions.
Could be. I have yet to see a dissection of Ballmer's performance at Microsoft in the tech or business media, which is long overdue. I think they are just waking up to the fact that it's been pretty miserable, partly as a result of the arbitrary metric of comparative market cap between AAPL and MSFT.
Joh Martello sums up Balmer really well:
A feature of Mr. Ballmer’s speaking style is that he takes a plain-folk approach. He does that because he’s the leader of 90+ percent of personal computer users. He has to be plain spoken and all inclusive in his chosen deceptions. To some, however, mostly on the opposition side, that approach makes him appear to be, with all respect, an idiot.
http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/artic...ths_to_gospel/
Could be. I have yet to see a dissection of Ballmer's performance at Microsoft in the tech or business media, which is long overdue. I think they are just waking up to the fact that it's been pretty miserable, partly as a result of the arbitrary metric of comparative market cap between AAPL and MSFT.
I see Microsoft as a company who, in the past, severely retarded the advancement of personal computers. Also, I once had a Widows phone, and I hated it.
I think that under Ballmer, Microsoft has blown significant opportunities. Just look at Vista. And WinCE.
It may be that the market cap news will inspire reviews and scrutiny.
I see Microsoft as a company who, in the past, severely retarded the advancement of personal computers. Also, I once had a Widows phone, and I hated it.
I think that under Ballmer, Microsoft has blown significant opportunities. Just look at Vista. And WinCE.
It may be that the market cap news will inspire reviews and scrutiny.
Well yes, the contributions made by Microsoft to the development of the industry are far overrated, but that's another topic.
The other big problem with Ballmer, aside from his mediocre management of Microsoft, is that he's been with the company for over 30 years. He's a product of an earlier phase of their growth and development and he doesn't seem to have the fresh perspective needed to move the company in a new direction. I have a feeling that if he retired or was retired, Microsoft would probably replace him internally with someone else with decades at the company. I don't think their corporate culture allows for the concept that anyone outside of Microsoft could possibly tell them anything they needed to know.
Ballmer NO LIKE pad - Ballmer make CONFUSED by pad!!! It shiny pretty thing! Me not know how do shiny pretty thing work... Me SMASH! ME SMASH it!!!!!
Ballmer LIKE hammer -- HAMMER go BOOM BOOM! Ballmer know how do hammer work -- BOOM BOOM BOOM!! Ballmer SMASH pad with HAMMER!
(And then, he blesses us with a quote having the significance of dirt on sand: )
Ballmer exe-... exec-.... Me no like BIG word! Me no like phone people! Me SMASH phone people! Me get NEW phone people!!!
(Keep those lips a-flappin', oh great Dancin'-Sweatin'-Screamin' Howler-Monkey Boy!)
Awesome
Well yes, the contributions made by Microsoft to the development of the industry are far overrated, but that's another topic.
The other big problem with Ballmer, aside from his mediocre management of Microsoft, is that he's been with the company for over 30 years. He's a product of an earlier phase of their growth and development and he doesn't seem to have the fresh perspective needed to move the company in a new direction. I have a feeling that if he retired or was retired, Microsoft would probably replace him internally with someone else with decades at the company. I don't think their corporate culture allows for the concept that anyone outside of Microsoft could possibly tell them anything they needed to know.
I have no real knowledge of the inside baseball aspects of Microsoft. I don't really have much interest in the personalities involved.
I am much more interested in the technology. And I would never bet against Microsoft. They have managed to do very very well, for a long long time.
For example, I have little or no interest in buying or using WinPhone 7, given the horrible experience I had with a Windows Phone. But I would be unsurprised if it became a major force in the smartphone industry.
I have no real knowledge of the inside baseball aspects of Microsoft. I don't really have much interest in the personalities involved.
I am much more interested in the technology. And I would never bet against Microsoft. They have managed to do very very well, for a long long time.
For example, I have little or no interest in buying or using WinPhone 7, given the horrible experience I had with a Windows Phone. But I would be unsurprised if it became a major force in the smartphone industry.
I might bet against Microsoft if it was a wager between them and someone else. They've really managed to squander what could well have been an insurmountable lead, had they known how to use their position in the market to their best advantage. Even Ballmer seems to have acknowledged that much.
I'm only interested in personalities to the extent that they have an impact on the markets for goods. I never had much appreciation for Bill Gates because his strategy seemed to have so little to with innovation and so much more to do with protecting the ground they'd already won, to the extent that it caused the company to have a risk-adverse corporate culture which I think is still very much in evidence. Obviously Apple has been a lot bolder in recent years, which has made their products more exciting by orders of magnitude, which has been rewarded with a far greater growth rate.
Microsoft may be a force for many years to come, just not a defining force. That mantle has been handed to others. Maybe Microsoft can get it back, but I think not without redefining the company -- which isn't going to happen with Ballmer in charge.
How is iPad slow in taking notes???? May be he was slow in typing or in thinking.....
any mobile device will be slow at taking notes. now and forevermore, the most efficient mobile device will be the analog pda...pen and paper
I am, frankly, amazed how the board hasn't thrown his ass on the street yet. They done nothing but stagnate in terms of stock price...
muahahaha... mahahahaha.. now that's funny.
Awesome
-Lol.. The truth is; Android made this a three party political system. Android validated the linux end of the market which was the traditional competitor to MSFT. MSFT got fat and lazy and just stood there in awe as Apple drank their milkshake. I think MSFT would have followed suit, but anything they would/could do would be called out as a cheap attempt to 'copy' Apple. Lets not forget the power of the Apple patent attorney. So, Google & Apple were doing the 'my friends enemy is my friend' thing; until Android started taking market share. Apple's lawyers now had to defend against the classic doublestuff.
So, I think oddly, that MSFT did the right thing and failed. Good thing they didn't petition the government for a WinMobile bailout. They probably could have gotten one.
So. Where to from here?
Think Motorola + Microsoft & some new ideas. Convergence is occurring and our Ford dealership probably holds the next lineup of products in the Ballmer toolKITT. Funny enough, I don't think Ballmer realizes it yet. MSFT will build the first real KITT for Knight Industries.
Is there room for the Hoff on Ballmer's board?