Okay, I just did what you suggested. I went out to the front of my house. There is a streetlight. My cast shadow and that of the streetlight are parallel. There is nothing like the phenomenon of Steve's shadow going slightly to the left, and the light pole shadow sharply to the right. I will take a picture if you don't believe me.
Can you believe these ignorant arrogant fools? Next is what, you telling me that the sun is actually burning wood for light? Get a fucking education and then you *might* be able to stop spreading nonsense
Okay, I just did what you suggested. I went out to the front of my house. There is a streetlight. My cast shadow and that of the streetlight are parallel. There is nothing like the phenomenon of Steve's shadow going slightly to the left, and the light pole shadow sharply to the right. I will take a picture if you don't believe me.
The hoaxer outsmarted himself. He pasted in the people well, the light on Steve's face is nearly flawless, but then he ginned up a shadow with sharp edges and put it in at the wrong angle.
Unless he deliberately left in Escher-like contradictions to inspire controversy.
Did you even compare the shadow of Steve and others in the foreground to the pole and others in background? The "confirmation" is cast into doubt by the the cast shadows. Explain to me how cast shadows can be in two different angles. Two suns? Not in this solar system. The story may be true, but the photo is not. Would like independent confirmation to even believe the story at this point.
They seem perfectly aligned, all of them. Listen, if you want a good advice on how you might get some real money, read carefully what I am about to say: Sue your teachers of your "Master" degree. Give this thread as evidence that you are clearly uneducated about the subject at hand. You can send me a percentage then, you know, for the tip.
Okay, notice how all the shadows appear parallel. My shadow, unlike Steve's mirrors the pole's shadow. Even the sun's position is similar, and I'm on the west coast too. Please explain in light of this how Steve's shadow goes in a completely different direction in a photo.
The hoaxer outsmarted himself. He pasted in the people well, the light on Steve's face is nearly flawless, but then he ginned up a shadow with sharp edges and put it in at the wrong angle.
Unless he deliberately left in Escher-like contradictions to inspire controversy.
A perfect forgery wouldn't get much notice.
Or perhaps you are clearly dumb at these things. Please enlighten me where do you see any contradiction on the picture. You speak of "sharp" shadows. Probably you are comparing them with the shadows of the cables which are blurred. And then you really think you are "on to" something. But you are not. You are only witnessing the product of your ignorance. Go outside and see a shadow of any cable that is well above you, like 4,5 meters. Then compare to your shadow.
Oh, hello! Your shadow is now sharper than the cable's! OMG do you realise what that means? It means, you are not really you, you are a photoshopped person!!
Okay, notice how all the shadows appear parallel. My shadow, unlike Steve's mirrors the pole's shadow. Even the sun's position is similar, and I'm on the west coast too. Please explain in light of this how Steve's shadow goes in a completely different direction in a photo.
Take a photo and show us. Expect us to believe that you are smart enough to understand what "parallel" even means?
Did anyone think that the pole might be crooked. I just did a test with a flashlight and two pencils. If you "lean" one of them to the right (towards other pencil)... guess what happens... the shadows go toward each other, without moving the light source.
They seem perfectly aligned, all of them. Listen, if you want a good advice on how you might get some real money, read carefully what I am about to say: Sue your teachers of your "Master" degree. Give this thread as evidence that you are clearly uneducated about the subject at hand. You can send me a percentage then, you know, for the tip.
Are you serious? If you see Steve's shadow and the telephone pole shadow as "perfectly aligned" you should sue your ophthalmologist.
Are you serious? If you see Steve's shadow and the telephone pole shadow as "perfectly aligned" you should sue your ophthalmologist.
*What*?? Oh my God.
Okay, before I just make fun out of you, please enlighten me, what *exactly* are you talking about. By the "telephone pole" shadow you are meaning the red lighted big shadows on the left?
Because if you aren't and you are speaking of the 3 lines more to the center, than you are also dumb. Those lines are more or less horizontal, so their shadows do not have to align with the shadows of vertical objects... get it?
For not showing favoritism to the rich and famous merely because they are?
Glad you're not running my world....
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Zzzzz... But seriously, gawd bless 'im, it's a good sign that Steve is hungry for some real food.
Forget all the parallax analysis - just get a copy of the menu, and if there aren't any certified vegan items on the menu it's a faux fake foney fraud.
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Steve can have a bite of my pepperoni any time he wants!
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Steve is a vegetarian ... which rules out pepperoni. Broccoli pizza ... yum.
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You're being too literal.
And you I think were being a tad too metaphorical, or am I reading in a double entendre meaning you didn't intend??
Did anyone think that the pole might be crooked. I just did a test with a flashlight and two pencils. If you "lean" one of them to the right (towards other pencil)... guess what happens... the shadows go toward each other, without moving the light source.
Try it.. I just did.
Hey I said it before you.
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If the red line truly represent vanishing point of the shadow, the len would be extremely wide-angle which, from the picture, is not the case.
So either the pole is leaned or something is just not right.
Okay, explain why my shadow appears parallel to the pole shadow and all other shadows and Steve's shadow and the pole shadow are on radically different angles.
Yes, matrix you did. Except that it's all wrong. You don't need a "wide lens" to get that effect. You just need to be an average photographer and shoot the right direction with an average camera.
Did anyone think that the pole might be crooked. I just did a test with a flashlight and two pencils. If you "lean" one of them to the right (towards other pencil)... guess what happens... the shadows go toward each other, without moving the light source.
now realize how your model is nothing like the photo. in your model, i'm guessing that the pencils are going to be within a few inches of each other, and the flashlight maybe a foot away. in the photo, steve is maybe ten feet away from the pole, and the lightsource is NINETY THREE MILLION GODDAMN MILES AWAY. the shadows in the photo are very nearly perfectly parallel.
perspective is sufficient to explain why things appear the way they do, without resorting to telephone poles ready to topple into buildings, or someone faking in steve for an alleged incident which is not only perfectly reasonable (appearing at a trendy restaurant without so much as a reservation), but which is also, in fact, supported by a third party (the restaurant itself).
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So either the pole is leaned or something is just not right.
Okay, I just did what you suggested. I went out to the front of my house. There is a streetlight. My cast shadow and that of the streetlight are parallel. There is nothing like the phenomenon of Steve's shadow going slightly to the left, and the light pole shadow sharply to the right. I will take a picture if you don't believe me.
Can you believe these ignorant arrogant fools? Next is what, you telling me that the sun is actually burning wood for light? Get a fucking education and then you *might* be able to stop spreading nonsense
Okay, I just did what you suggested. I went out to the front of my house. There is a streetlight. My cast shadow and that of the streetlight are parallel. There is nothing like the phenomenon of Steve's shadow going slightly to the left, and the light pole shadow sharply to the right. I will take a picture if you don't believe me.
The hoaxer outsmarted himself. He pasted in the people well, the light on Steve's face is nearly flawless, but then he ginned up a shadow with sharp edges and put it in at the wrong angle.
Unless he deliberately left in Escher-like contradictions to inspire controversy.
A perfect forgery wouldn't get much notice.
Of course, just because the shadows are believable doesn't necessarily mean that the photo is not doctored.
Did you even compare the shadow of Steve and others in the foreground to the pole and others in background? The "confirmation" is cast into doubt by the the cast shadows. Explain to me how cast shadows can be in two different angles. Two suns? Not in this solar system. The story may be true, but the photo is not. Would like independent confirmation to even believe the story at this point.
They seem perfectly aligned, all of them. Listen, if you want a good advice on how you might get some real money, read carefully what I am about to say: Sue your teachers of your "Master" degree. Give this thread as evidence that you are clearly uneducated about the subject at hand. You can send me a percentage then, you know, for the tip.
basic perspective. start paying attention to the world around you. take an art class if you really just do not get it.
occam's razor. it makes goddamn sense.
Okay, notice how all the shadows appear parallel. My shadow, unlike Steve's mirrors the pole's shadow. Even the sun's position is similar, and I'm on the west coast too. Please explain in light of this how Steve's shadow goes in a completely different direction in a photo.
The hoaxer outsmarted himself. He pasted in the people well, the light on Steve's face is nearly flawless, but then he ginned up a shadow with sharp edges and put it in at the wrong angle.
Unless he deliberately left in Escher-like contradictions to inspire controversy.
A perfect forgery wouldn't get much notice.
Or perhaps you are clearly dumb at these things. Please enlighten me where do you see any contradiction on the picture. You speak of "sharp" shadows. Probably you are comparing them with the shadows of the cables which are blurred. And then you really think you are "on to" something. But you are not. You are only witnessing the product of your ignorance. Go outside and see a shadow of any cable that is well above you, like 4,5 meters. Then compare to your shadow.
Oh, hello! Your shadow is now sharper than the cable's! OMG do you realise what that means? It means, you are not really you, you are a photoshopped person!!
Okay, notice how all the shadows appear parallel. My shadow, unlike Steve's mirrors the pole's shadow. Even the sun's position is similar, and I'm on the west coast too. Please explain in light of this how Steve's shadow goes in a completely different direction in a photo.
Take a photo and show us. Expect us to believe that you are smart enough to understand what "parallel" even means?
Try it.. I just did.
They seem perfectly aligned, all of them. Listen, if you want a good advice on how you might get some real money, read carefully what I am about to say: Sue your teachers of your "Master" degree. Give this thread as evidence that you are clearly uneducated about the subject at hand. You can send me a percentage then, you know, for the tip.
Are you serious? If you see Steve's shadow and the telephone pole shadow as "perfectly aligned" you should sue your ophthalmologist.
Take a photo and show us. Expect us to believe that you are smart enough to understand what "parallel" even means?
I did, but am having trouble posting it. Will keep trying.
Are you serious? If you see Steve's shadow and the telephone pole shadow as "perfectly aligned" you should sue your ophthalmologist.
*What*?? Oh my God.
Okay, before I just make fun out of you, please enlighten me, what *exactly* are you talking about. By the "telephone pole" shadow you are meaning the red lighted big shadows on the left?
Because if you aren't and you are speaking of the 3 lines more to the center, than you are also dumb. Those lines are more or less horizontal, so their shadows do not have to align with the shadows of vertical objects... get it?
He should buy the restaurant and fire the idiot.
For not showing favoritism to the rich and famous merely because they are?
Glad you're not running my world....
Zzzzz... But seriously, gawd bless 'im, it's a good sign that Steve is hungry for some real food.
Forget all the parallax analysis - just get a copy of the menu, and if there aren't any certified vegan items on the menu it's a faux fake foney fraud.
Steve can have a bite of my pepperoni any time he wants!
Steve is a vegetarian ... which rules out pepperoni. Broccoli pizza ... yum.
You're being too literal.
And you I think were being a tad too metaphorical, or am I reading in a double entendre meaning you didn't intend??
I did, but am having trouble posting it. Will keep trying.
Well that will be fun.
Did anyone think that the pole might be crooked. I just did a test with a flashlight and two pencils. If you "lean" one of them to the right (towards other pencil)... guess what happens... the shadows go toward each other, without moving the light source.
Try it.. I just did.
Hey I said it before you.
If the red line truly represent vanishing point of the shadow, the len would be extremely wide-angle which, from the picture, is not the case.
So either the pole is leaned or something is just not right.
Okay, explain why my shadow appears parallel to the pole shadow and all other shadows and Steve's shadow and the pole shadow are on radically different angles.
Did anyone think that the pole might be crooked. I just did a test with a flashlight and two pencils. If you "lean" one of them to the right (towards other pencil)... guess what happens... the shadows go toward each other, without moving the light source.
now realize how your model is nothing like the photo. in your model, i'm guessing that the pencils are going to be within a few inches of each other, and the flashlight maybe a foot away. in the photo, steve is maybe ten feet away from the pole, and the lightsource is NINETY THREE MILLION GODDAMN MILES AWAY. the shadows in the photo are very nearly perfectly parallel.
perspective is sufficient to explain why things appear the way they do, without resorting to telephone poles ready to topple into buildings, or someone faking in steve for an alleged incident which is not only perfectly reasonable (appearing at a trendy restaurant without so much as a reservation), but which is also, in fact, supported by a third party (the restaurant itself).