An "Android Tablet" hasn't even been released yet. Just oversized phones.
Android 2.3/3.0 "Gingerbread" should be out by early 2011. This new version will actually support tablets, so you will see screens >7".
Hopefully they settle on a couple of different screen sizes and resolutions.
This seems insightful to me.
We may likely forget all about these current devices in the near future, unless they do a good job with Gingerbread.
And you predict that the release of Gingerbread will spur the release of better tablets. I hope that you are correct.
Do you think that anything under current release will have difficulty updating to or running Gingerbread? Or will they all just get updated when the new version is available?
Don't post if you're not adding to the discussion. Here's a hint: A position is normally supported by arguments and evidence.
Yes, but in certain cases, the position has risen to the level of being a shibboleth. In those cases, arguments and evidence should be avoided at all costs, because they tend to disprove the shibboleth.
In the case of popular shibboleths, their truthiness speaks for itself. Arguments and/or evidence just get in the way.
The reasons you are wrong are staring in you the face. Apple sells lots and lots of expensive hardware and wants you to buy more. Their software, ecosystem, and privacy concerns (which they have repeatedly shown to take quite seriously) work in conjunction to sell you hardware. Yes, they will make money from other things but if the hardware and ecosystem suck...or if they start playing fast and loose with your privacy, their core business is negatively affected. Did you ever think how they dare charge for a service like mobileme when google and others provide it for free? Surely apple could provide it for free if they wanted to compete with google on an "ads and selling your data" model but they don't. And that's exactly why I am happy to pay for it.
OTOH, Google sells practically nothing but your information. If they can't abuse your private information, they are out of business. Period! And believe me, they are abusing and you ain't seen nothing yet.
There's only one way to understand Google's business model, which is to understand that Google's services are not products. In fact, Google has only one product. And that product is you.
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Who's Google's customer? You? Really? When's the last time you paid Google for anything?
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Advertisers are Google's customer. What do they sell to advertisers? They sell you. Or, at least, they rent you out, or provide access to you.
And you predict that the release of Gingerbread will spur the release of better tablets.
I'd bet my house on it. The current crop of Android "tablets" are running a phone OS.
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Do you think that anything under current release will have difficulty updating to or running Gingerbread? Or will they all just get updated when the new version is available?
Based on existing phones it's safe to say that not all current 7" tablets will be upgraded.
The bigger concern is whether the 7" form factor will stick once Gingerbread allows for larger screens and higher resolutions.
Gingerbread will certainly allow for a 7" screen, but if it isn't a popular standard there are no guarantees about the developer support it will receive.
I'd bet my house on it. The current crop of Android "tablets" are running a phone OS.
Based on existing phones it's safe to say that not all current 7" tablets will be upgraded.
The bigger concern is whether the 7" form factor will stick once Gingerbread allows for larger screens and higher resolutions.
Gingerbread will certainly allow for a 7" screen, but if it isn't a popular standard there are no guarantees about the developer support it will receive.
The reason the initial batch of Android based tablets (as well as the RIM Playbook) are using 7" screens is that they can't afford to come close to competing with Apple on price if they make a 10" tablet. Gingerbread, which may make a better tablet OS (yet to be determined), isn't going to magically change that fact.
The reason the initial batch of Android based tablets (as well as the RIM Playbook) are using 7" screens is that they can't afford to come close to competing with Apple on price if they make a 10" tablet. Gingerbread, which may make a better tablet OS (yet to be determined), isn't going to magically change that fact.
Of course it will! (It's not magic though )
With the iPads screen the Galaxy would cost $252 to manufacture ($12 less than the iPad).
Of course Samsung don't have access to the same screen pricing as Apple because they aren't playing with anywhere near the economies of scale that Apple are.
I've got a feeling that something might be coming out soon that increases demand for Android devices with larger screens and higher standardized resolutions...
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An "Android Tablet" hasn't even been released yet. Just oversized phones.
Android 2.3/3.0 "Gingerbread" should be out by early 2011. This new version will actually support tablets, so you will see screens >7".
Hopefully they settle on a couple of different screen sizes and resolutions.
This seems insightful to me.
We may likely forget all about these current devices in the near future, unless they do a good job with Gingerbread.
And you predict that the release of Gingerbread will spur the release of better tablets. I hope that you are correct.
Do you think that anything under current release will have difficulty updating to or running Gingerbread? Or will they all just get updated when the new version is available?
This was a thread ...
extremeskater tried to subvert it ...
Google guys getting a fucking bonus ...
working conditions in China ...
My personal vitriol ...
guys that constantly seem to hijack threads ...
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Physician, heal thyself.
Don't post if you're not adding to the discussion. Here's a hint: A position is normally supported by arguments and evidence.
Yes, but in certain cases, the position has risen to the level of being a shibboleth. In those cases, arguments and evidence should be avoided at all costs, because they tend to disprove the shibboleth.
In the case of popular shibboleths, their truthiness speaks for itself. Arguments and/or evidence just get in the way.
The reasons you are wrong are staring in you the face. Apple sells lots and lots of expensive hardware and wants you to buy more. Their software, ecosystem, and privacy concerns (which they have repeatedly shown to take quite seriously) work in conjunction to sell you hardware. Yes, they will make money from other things but if the hardware and ecosystem suck...or if they start playing fast and loose with your privacy, their core business is negatively affected. Did you ever think how they dare charge for a service like mobileme when google and others provide it for free? Surely apple could provide it for free if they wanted to compete with google on an "ads and selling your data" model but they don't. And that's exactly why I am happy to pay for it.
OTOH, Google sells practically nothing but your information. If they can't abuse your private information, they are out of business. Period! And believe me, they are abusing and you ain't seen nothing yet.
The answer is as old as time: Follow the money.
Interesting read:
http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/col...he-Product.htm
There's only one way to understand Google's business model, which is to understand that Google's services are not products. In fact, Google has only one product. And that product is you.
and
Who's Google's customer? You? Really? When's the last time you paid Google for anything?
and
Advertisers are Google's customer. What do they sell to advertisers? They sell you. Or, at least, they rent you out, or provide access to you.
.
And you predict that the release of Gingerbread will spur the release of better tablets.
I'd bet my house on it. The current crop of Android "tablets" are running a phone OS.
Do you think that anything under current release will have difficulty updating to or running Gingerbread? Or will they all just get updated when the new version is available?
Based on existing phones it's safe to say that not all current 7" tablets will be upgraded.
The bigger concern is whether the 7" form factor will stick once Gingerbread allows for larger screens and higher resolutions.
Gingerbread will certainly allow for a 7" screen, but if it isn't a popular standard there are no guarantees about the developer support it will receive.
I'd bet my house on it. The current crop of Android "tablets" are running a phone OS.
Based on existing phones it's safe to say that not all current 7" tablets will be upgraded.
The bigger concern is whether the 7" form factor will stick once Gingerbread allows for larger screens and higher resolutions.
Gingerbread will certainly allow for a 7" screen, but if it isn't a popular standard there are no guarantees about the developer support it will receive.
The reason the initial batch of Android based tablets (as well as the RIM Playbook) are using 7" screens is that they can't afford to come close to competing with Apple on price if they make a 10" tablet. Gingerbread, which may make a better tablet OS (yet to be determined), isn't going to magically change that fact.
The reason the initial batch of Android based tablets (as well as the RIM Playbook) are using 7" screens is that they can't afford to come close to competing with Apple on price if they make a 10" tablet. Gingerbread, which may make a better tablet OS (yet to be determined), isn't going to magically change that fact.
Of course it will! (It's not magic though
With the iPads screen the Galaxy would cost $252 to manufacture ($12 less than the iPad).
Of course Samsung don't have access to the same screen pricing as Apple because they aren't playing with anywhere near the economies of scale that Apple are.
I've got a feeling that something might be coming out soon that increases demand for Android devices with larger screens and higher standardized resolutions...
I reply with the arguments and evidence a post deserves. If it deserves none, it gets none.
Well screw you too, buddy