while I would normally agree with Groverat on this, you gotta consider that he CANT find new friends... they are ALL like that.
My advice, go for it. If the peer pressure gets too intense... well then you have two options: dump the girl or ignore your friends.
Remember one thing though, and take from me I know, a great friendship (especially ones where you just flirt, have great times together, seem to never have an end to things to say, etc) almost always get ruined with sex. Sex somehow brings an entire new dimension into relationships. Of course, there are rare times where indeed you just get lucky and that person is just the 'perfect partner'... but dont bank on it too much.
If he can't find friends that aren't assholes then do without male friends.
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Men are lone creatures, not pack animals like females. What the hell good are male friends if they are pricks?
And if they screw with you about her, say this: "I'll tell you what, since you think she's ugly I'll blindfold you with dental floss the next time she comes over."
1. Good looking women are usually High Maintenence
2. Some of your friends are probably Posers. I mean if they are walking the walk then let'em but don't let that influence you. Someday they'll be crying on your shoulder about their woman leaving them.
An interesting phenomenon: average (or even below average) looking people are often made beautiful by wit, intelligence, personality, kindness, attitude, etc.
I've ALWAYS been attracted to that, knowing that beauty is indeed skin deep and oftentimes fleeting.
Conversely, it's been my experience that stunningly attractive people have been able to get through their lives on that fact alone, and therefore sometimes lack any substance beyond surface appearances: no brains, no personality, no opinions, etc.
Of course, this isn't always the case. There are exceptions. But if you go around LOOKING for a knock-out, beauty queen/cheerleader/beach bunny type only, you're going to wind up disappointed. Unless, of course, you're equally shallow and fixated on appearances too.
In which case, knock yourself out.
I've been lucky in that I seem to meet and/or date smart, funny women with wonderful personalities and lots to offer. It's my blessed good fortune that they are also total cutie-pies and babydolls.
If they weren't all those other things (smart, funny, clued-in, etc.), their dimples, big toothy smiles and nice round apple butts would mean nothing to me.
Believe me, there is NOTHING uglier than a pretty girl who KNOWS she's pretty, and puts too much stock in it.
Ugh!
Us average looking types have to develop personalities and brains to carry us through life. In the end, we're much better to be around.
Definately if you really like her and wanna go out with her then go out with her. Don't listen to your friends. If she's really that cool it shouldn't matter what your friends say.
... plus really good looking girls are generally pretty bad shags. they expect the partner to do everything just because they are cute. Sure at first you go nuts and stuff... but its gets tiring when they just layback and hit the cruise control. Blah.
I think you should date this girl,if you like her you have no reason not to.If you found someone that you doubt you will ever find someone as cool as in your entire life you have found someone special,go ask her out and screw what your friends will think.
She'd be your girlfriend, not your friends', so what matters is your opinion of her.
It sounds like, for all their boasting, your friends don't have too much luck with all these pretty women. So if things work out well with you and your gal, and you get something long term going, they'll be green with envy. They won't admit it, but they will be.
Stop ripping on the guy's friends. It's natural to judge people by the way they look, and personally I don't think it's entirely wrong.
Of course, I know girls who may fit the description of this one, and I don't tend to be more than friends. Why? Damn, she's ugly! Good things come to those who wait.
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People shouldn't be so stupid and shallow. Since when does that figure into anything?
I wouldn't pass up a girl as cool as you make her sound just because you have some shallow, judgemental friends.
Perhaps you can check out Abercrombie & Fitch's website for inspiration.
Really though, you know what you should do.
My advice, go for it. If the peer pressure gets too intense... well then you have two options: dump the girl or ignore your friends.
Remember one thing though, and take from me I know, a great friendship (especially ones where you just flirt, have great times together, seem to never have an end to things to say, etc) almost always get ruined with sex. Sex somehow brings an entire new dimension into relationships. Of course, there are rare times where indeed you just get lucky and that person is just the 'perfect partner'... but dont bank on it too much.
That said, BANZAI!!!!
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Men are lone creatures, not pack animals like females. What the hell good are male friends if they are pricks?
And if they screw with you about her, say this: "I'll tell you what, since you think she's ugly I'll blindfold you with dental floss the next time she comes over."
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2. Some of your friends are probably Posers. I mean if they are walking the walk then let'em but don't let that influence you. Someday they'll be crying on your shoulder about their woman leaving them.
3. Go with your heart.
I've ALWAYS been attracted to that, knowing that beauty is indeed skin deep and oftentimes fleeting.
Conversely, it's been my experience that stunningly attractive people have been able to get through their lives on that fact alone, and therefore sometimes lack any substance beyond surface appearances: no brains, no personality, no opinions, etc.
Of course, this isn't always the case. There are exceptions. But if you go around LOOKING for a knock-out, beauty queen/cheerleader/beach bunny type only, you're going to wind up disappointed. Unless, of course, you're equally shallow and fixated on appearances too.
In which case, knock yourself out.
I've been lucky in that I seem to meet and/or date smart, funny women with wonderful personalities and lots to offer. It's my blessed good fortune that they are also total cutie-pies and babydolls.
If they weren't all those other things (smart, funny, clued-in, etc.), their dimples, big toothy smiles and nice round apple butts would mean nothing to me.
Believe me, there is NOTHING uglier than a pretty girl who KNOWS she's pretty, and puts too much stock in it.
Ugh!
Us average looking types have to develop personalities and brains to carry us through life. In the end, we're much better to be around.
<strong>Besides, can't you find something to make fun of you Chinese friends for? I mean, come on...
Perhaps you can check out Abercrombie & Fitch's website for inspiration.
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<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> Bwahahahahahahahahhahahahaha!!
J :cool:
It sounds like, for all their boasting, your friends don't have too much luck with all these pretty women. So if things work out well with you and your gal, and you get something long term going, they'll be green with envy. They won't admit it, but they will be.
Go for it
<strong>How bout you post her picture and let us make the call
Of course, I know girls who may fit the description of this one, and I don't tend to be more than friends. Why? Damn, she's ugly! Good things come to those who wait.
'he who waits, masturbates' -jesus
cuss
p.s. how much you wanna bet o'boy is a solid 3 too?
p.p.s. least i think it was jesus.
p.p.p.s. i'm a solid 9... just ask.
Pocahontas once traded 5 blankets for a night with you.
And I'm betting that 'olboy isn't that far above a 3 himself, using something so superficial as a scale.