If I were a Netgear employee I would be embarrassed. The man obviously doesn't know why Flash is banned. He looks like an ass-clown trying call attention to himself.
Linux is quite successful as a part of price sensitive gear. E.g. my PVR runs a Linux inside. Maybe consumer routers run Linux inside. Now, my personal experience wit those products (and I think I owned a Netgear router once too) is generally not very good.
Take my PVR which runs a Linux inside: broken file system support for accented characters, broken EXT2/3 support, lame FTP server and much more. Support/updates: almost never. Open? I can't fix the bugs, the system is very closed. It is connected to my LAN and via my router/firewall to the internet and it will (like all its brethren) possibly be a major attack vector for malware in the foreseeable future when more and more of such embedded systems (TV, BD players, PVRs, etc) go online with a cheapskate and hardly supported Linux at its core. You just wait until you are going to visit web sites on your TV with embedded Linux.
All these millions and millions Embedded Linux based installations are in fact far from open. Generally, they are as closed as their makers can make them. The user generally doesn't even know there is Linux inside.
The type of installation where Linux seems most successful are closed Linux installations. Ironic, isn't it?
Ok so Steve is proud of his iPad iPhone etc and OS 4.
Lets not forget without Apple we would still be using push button clunky mobiles if it was not for apple companies like Nokia etc do not think what does the customer want when they designed a phone.
As for tablets well we would all be using rubbish notebooks running that blue screen baby.
Android is a knee jerk reaction copy of Apples innovation.
"According to Lo, the iTunes distribution model amounts to Jobs effectively extorting content providers such as the movie studios by charging a "ransom" for content. "Steve Jobs wants to suffocate the distribution so even though he doesn't own the content he could basically demand a ransom," he said."
That's like saying the grocery store is charging a ransom for my Grape Nuts.
Content also matters. Apple is holding content holders to ransom. Thats the case.
That's b.s. No content holder is forced to distribute via the Apple Store. And I can take any audio I have (such as CDs) and upload them to iTunes and download them back to my iPhone. I don't see what's closed about this. In fact, 99% of my iPhone content came from CDs. The only thing that is closed is that you can't directly connect an iPod/iPhone to a different store.
The fact is that (at least in terms of audio), there are only four major labels: Sony/BMG, Warner, EMI and Universal. If they're really so upset with Apple and resent their model, only one has to pull out.
Similarly, in the movie industry, there are really only six majors: Warner, Paramount, 20thC Fox, Sony (Columbia), Universal and Disney/Touchstone. If any one (or perhaps two) of those pull out, it could cripple the Apple store and Apple would be forced to change their model. But they haven't pulled out, because the Apple store actually works quite well for them.
And as far as NetGear is concerned, for the longest time, I had terrible problems with my connection and I constantly placed blame on my ISP because I couldn't believe the problem was the router. At one point, I even thought it was my Mac. But I replaced the wireless router with the Apple AirPort Express and have never looked back. It works perfectly. I also happen to own a Sony Blu-ray player that has WiFi built in for streaming content. I read all these reports online about people who can't get the streaming working properly. But with my Apple AirPort Express, there's never a problem. Installed and continues to work flawlessly.
. . . What he says about Apple needing to find a way to open up iTunes is quite right. Sooner or later competition watchdogs are going to want to know how a 3rd party can compete with Apple given its current revenue model.
Why do you (and others) say this? (I assume when you say "iTunes" and "revenue" you actually mean "the iTunes Music Store?")
I get content from all over the place from and I use the iTunes player exclusively. Oddly enough, I have yet to buy any content from the iTunes Music Store (except as gifts.) The only "non-open" aspect of iTunes is on DRMed content, which apple can neither control nor "open up" (this is a condition of the publishers.)
I have a netgear router and I thoroughly regret that fact everytime I have to get up and go and switch it off and on again because it gets confused when there are too many packets going through it.
I have a netgear router and I thoroughly regret that fact everytime I have to get up and go and switch it off and on again because it gets confused when there are too many packets going through it.
throw it away...you can find a cheap replacement and save yourself the grief lol. thats what i did. couldn't take the resets anymore!!
LOL...Too funny. Netgear? They're still in business? Last I knew they made cheap, inferior home networking stuff. Never bought it myself, but used it. I can see why SJ never gives him the time of day...
"Once Steve Jobs goes away, which is probably not far away, then Apple will have to make a strategic decision on whether to open up the platform," Lo said on Monday."
I am dumbfounded that he said this - totally dumfounded. I had to read the quote 3 times; I didn't realize that there was anyone who was so Lo (pun intended). But looking back, it got him PR that he never could have gotten for himself.
At least you looked to see what he really said. But your interpretation is still iffy. Although he might have meant that Jobs could soon die, he also might have meant that jobs is in his fifties, has nearly achieved his goals at Apple, has a history of creating small companies that grow and revolutionize whole sectors, etc. And so, he may find a new project to pursue, may retire, may want to enjoy his family more, . . . The possibilities abound (or quite possibly, Lo may be an ass for the very reason you suspect, but who cares? I've never even heard of him before, but I know now I'll never buy anything made by Netgear.)
If I were a Netgear employee I would be embarrassed. The man obviously doesn't know why Flash is banned. He looks like an ass-clown trying call attention to himself.
No value whatsoever. Imagine a web site which streams movies. Or sells books as PDFS. Or sells music online. Or photos. Whatever. Digital content. It builds an app to allow pre-exiting customers to see their content on an app rather than online ( for movies that would be essential because flash is not available).
If they add no value I guess no business would see any value in having a presence on the platform. They would be fine with simply having a presence in the browser.
And when did Flash become essential for viewing video on an app? I guess I missed that. I never noticed Flash was so important to the process (maybe because I don't use it?)
I was talking about Apple killing off its professional market, the ones who produce the content that the rest are consuming. As of today you can no longer buy an XServe as Apple no longer sells them. There is no replacement (and in production houses, replacing rack mounted redundant machines with Mac Pros or Mac Minis is not possible or realistic). I was talking about how Apple is neglecting its professional software (FCP Studio, FCP Server, XSan) to such an extent that Adobe's software is now much, much better and, to top that, really does run better on Windows.
Apple is making a killing off consumer devices which are really good and provide a seamless experience, but Android will eventually eat up much of that market, leaving Apple with no core of loyal professionals that it had back when Macs were only popular amongst creative professional users.
So there are other alternatives and this may well go the way of Xserve RAID and get picked up for supply by one of the Apple spin-off companies, hardware-wise. Why should Apple focus limited resources on a part of the supply-chain that represents so little return? So FCP Studio/Server and Xsan require constant tweaking to be viable? Sounds like an unnecessary resource drain to me - again in an area that already has suitable alternatives NOT requiring addressing the whinging of so-called professionals.
Consumer product-wise, you obviously aren't paying attention to what matters - while marketshare is undeniably important - the most profitable segment of the existing marketshare is what is most critical - and what Apple goes for. You obviously don't run a Fortune 50 company or else this would be abundantly obvious to you and not require patient and persistent correction to your misunderstanding.
Can someone who works in tech journalism please take the time to point out to these bozos that vertically integrated does not mean closed and that that "openness" (Especially openness for openness's sake) is, at best, a nebulous concept which has no demonstrable real-world advantages? I'm particularly keen for Google to get called out for this crap, but apparently NetGear need a talking to as well.
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When asked if he had communicated his concerns to Jobs, Lo replied: "Steve Jobs doesn't give me a minute!"
Not sure why any of you need to analysis any further....
Take my PVR which runs a Linux inside: broken file system support for accented characters, broken EXT2/3 support, lame FTP server and much more. Support/updates: almost never. Open? I can't fix the bugs, the system is very closed. It is connected to my LAN and via my router/firewall to the internet and it will (like all its brethren) possibly be a major attack vector for malware in the foreseeable future when more and more of such embedded systems (TV, BD players, PVRs, etc) go online with a cheapskate and hardly supported Linux at its core. You just wait until you are going to visit web sites on your TV with embedded Linux.
All these millions and millions Embedded Linux based installations are in fact far from open. Generally, they are as closed as their makers can make them. The user generally doesn't even know there is Linux inside.
The type of installation where Linux seems most successful are closed Linux installations. Ironic, isn't it?
Ok so Steve is proud of his iPad iPhone etc and OS 4.
Lets not forget without Apple we would still be using push button clunky mobiles if it was not for apple companies like Nokia etc do not think what does the customer want when they designed a phone.
As for tablets well we would all be using rubbish notebooks running that blue screen baby.
Android is a knee jerk reaction copy of Apples innovation.
As fo Lo well he's Netgear need I say more
As in very much? As in, Safari is based on a Linux Web Browser?
Mac OS X being Open, as is stated on the Apple Website (though, however, not Open Source), I'd call BS on your comment.
A "Linux" web browser? What's that?
Does that mean Safari is now a "Unix and Windows web browser?"
While I would agree that Linux is successful in it way, your reasoning is bizarre.
That's like saying the grocery store is charging a ransom for my Grape Nuts.
Content also matters. Apple is holding content holders to ransom. Thats the case.
That's b.s. No content holder is forced to distribute via the Apple Store. And I can take any audio I have (such as CDs) and upload them to iTunes and download them back to my iPhone. I don't see what's closed about this. In fact, 99% of my iPhone content came from CDs. The only thing that is closed is that you can't directly connect an iPod/iPhone to a different store.
The fact is that (at least in terms of audio), there are only four major labels: Sony/BMG, Warner, EMI and Universal. If they're really so upset with Apple and resent their model, only one has to pull out.
Similarly, in the movie industry, there are really only six majors: Warner, Paramount, 20thC Fox, Sony (Columbia), Universal and Disney/Touchstone. If any one (or perhaps two) of those pull out, it could cripple the Apple store and Apple would be forced to change their model. But they haven't pulled out, because the Apple store actually works quite well for them.
And as far as NetGear is concerned, for the longest time, I had terrible problems with my connection and I constantly placed blame on my ISP because I couldn't believe the problem was the router. At one point, I even thought it was my Mac. But I replaced the wireless router with the Apple AirPort Express and have never looked back. It works perfectly. I also happen to own a Sony Blu-ray player that has WiFi built in for streaming content. I read all these reports online about people who can't get the streaming working properly. But with my Apple AirPort Express, there's never a problem. Installed and continues to work flawlessly.
This is sad ... he says Apple will eventually fail. Right ... can someone please alert Netgear CEO that his shuttle to Neptune leaves shortly.
. . . What he says about Apple needing to find a way to open up iTunes is quite right. Sooner or later competition watchdogs are going to want to know how a 3rd party can compete with Apple given its current revenue model.
Why do you (and others) say this? (I assume when you say "iTunes" and "revenue" you actually mean "the iTunes Music Store?")
I get content from all over the place from and I use the iTunes player exclusively. Oddly enough, I have yet to buy any content from the iTunes Music Store (except as gifts.) The only "non-open" aspect of iTunes is on DRMed content, which apple can neither control nor "open up" (this is a condition of the publishers.)
I have a netgear router and I thoroughly regret that fact everytime I have to get up and go and switch it off and on again because it gets confused when there are too many packets going through it.
throw it away...you can find a cheap replacement and save yourself the grief lol. thats what i did. couldn't take the resets anymore!!
"Once Steve Jobs goes away, which is probably not far away, then Apple will have to make a strategic decision on whether to open up the platform," Lo said on Monday."
I am dumbfounded that he said this - totally dumfounded. I had to read the quote 3 times; I didn't realize that there was anyone who was so Lo (pun intended). But looking back, it got him PR that he never could have gotten for himself.
At least you looked to see what he really said. But your interpretation is still iffy. Although he might have meant that Jobs could soon die, he also might have meant that jobs is in his fifties, has nearly achieved his goals at Apple, has a history of creating small companies that grow and revolutionize whole sectors, etc. And so, he may find a new project to pursue, may retire, may want to enjoy his family more, . . . The possibilities abound (or quite possibly, Lo may be an ass for the very reason you suspect, but who cares? I've never even heard of him before, but I know now I'll never buy anything made by Netgear.)
For comparison, during that same time period Apple stock went from 118 to 335. Almost tripled.
Define "behind".
OS X is a fine system, but not everyone needs a Mercedes.
Definitions of behind:Linux is a fine OS but lacks the creature comforts and usability of the Mac OS.
If I were a Netgear employee I would be embarrassed. The man obviously doesn't know why Flash is banned. He looks like an ass-clown trying call attention to himself.
I think you meant to say "No-talent ass clown".
No value whatsoever. Imagine a web site which streams movies. Or sells books as PDFS. Or sells music online. Or photos. Whatever. Digital content. It builds an app to allow pre-exiting customers to see their content on an app rather than online ( for movies that would be essential because flash is not available).
If they add no value I guess no business would see any value in having a presence on the platform. They would be fine with simply having a presence in the browser.
And when did Flash become essential for viewing video on an app? I guess I missed that. I never noticed Flash was so important to the process (maybe because I don't use it?)
I was talking about Apple killing off its professional market, the ones who produce the content that the rest are consuming. As of today you can no longer buy an XServe as Apple no longer sells them. There is no replacement (and in production houses, replacing rack mounted redundant machines with Mac Pros or Mac Minis is not possible or realistic). I was talking about how Apple is neglecting its professional software (FCP Studio, FCP Server, XSan) to such an extent that Adobe's software is now much, much better and, to top that, really does run better on Windows.
Apple is making a killing off consumer devices which are really good and provide a seamless experience, but Android will eventually eat up much of that market, leaving Apple with no core of loyal professionals that it had back when Macs were only popular amongst creative professional users.
So there are other alternatives and this may well go the way of Xserve RAID and get picked up for supply by one of the Apple spin-off companies, hardware-wise. Why should Apple focus limited resources on a part of the supply-chain that represents so little return? So FCP Studio/Server and Xsan require constant tweaking to be viable? Sounds like an unnecessary resource drain to me - again in an area that already has suitable alternatives NOT requiring addressing the whinging of so-called professionals.
Consumer product-wise, you obviously aren't paying attention to what matters - while marketshare is undeniably important - the most profitable segment of the existing marketshare is what is most critical - and what Apple goes for. You obviously don't run a Fortune 50 company or else this would be abundantly obvious to you and not require patient and persistent correction to your misunderstanding.
Can someone who works in tech journalism please take the time to point out to these bozos that vertically integrated does not mean closed and that that "openness" (Especially openness for openness's sake) is, at best, a nebulous concept which has no demonstrable real-world advantages? I'm particularly keen for Google to get called out for this crap, but apparently NetGear need a talking to as well.
great point!