Yes Apple, work hard cracking the whip that makes the slaves pump these out faster. Apple you are not "working hard", your supply contractors are, ergo the common Chinese worker.
Taking a month to ramp up proper production is hardly rocket science.
Are you someone who can compete with the product line, or someone whose product and revenues are at the same level or better than Apple's? How about your workforce? Is it well-placed in areas where you can simultaneously promote high wages, high compensation and and low product pricing? Yeah, this is a throwndown. Put up or shut-up. Either bring it or walk away.
I'm not so sure. It all comes down to supply. If Apple can't build enough iPads, they might not be able to take advantage of the fire they started, and people might get frustrated and go for a Xoom. And buy Android apps and lock themselves in. Apple has a real risk here, and the iPad2's buildability matters a lot more at this point than any other spec the device has.
From your words to Apple's ears!
And here, IMHO, is what Apple should do about this: Give everyone use of an iPad 1 for the interim. Yes, it creates a "used" iPad that has less value, but it nips the problem you've identified in the bud.
(Apologies to others who may have posted this idea previous to me - I just read this far down and had to react!)
Motorola should take advantage of the situation and reduce the price of their tablet?"Xoom?$595. No Waiting!" Unfortunately when its time for buyers to mail back their Xooms for the one-week upgrade to 4G, Apple can run ads with "No Waiting" too. Won't be long before the Xoom becomes the Zune.
And here, IMHO, is what Apple should do about this: Give everyone use of an iPad 1 for the interim. Yes, it creates a "used" iPad that has less value, but it nips the problem you've identified in the bud.
(Apologies to others who may have posted this idea previous to me - I just read this far down and had to react!)
And where are these millions of interim iPad 1s coming from?
Motorola should take advantage of the situation and reduce the price of their tablet?"Xoom?$595. No Waiting!" Unfortunately when its time for buyers to mail back their Xooms for the one-week upgrade to 4G, Apple can run ads with "No Waiting" too. Won't be long before the Xoom becomes the Zune.
The selling price probably doesn?t yield them much profit as it is, it?s just a way to get a foot in the door of this market. Dropping down to $595 would probably sell them all quickly, but at the risk of losing money on each transaction. You could say they could build more and economics of scale would kick in, but it?s that simple. You have to invest in x many units being manufactures and sourcing of those components, often not on a 1:1 ratio, then crunch the numbers. This is complex.
As for the ad, that too costs money. As for the ?No Waiting? slogan, Apple could do the same by marketing ?No Waiting? for apps. The iPad has 65k native apps while the Xoom has 100.?, ?No Waiting? to buy a complete device. The iPad 2 is sold fully functional without needing to be sent back to the factory to have hardware added months later.?, ?No Waiting? for your device. The iPad 2 destroys the Xoom in performance tests.?
To my knowledge, Apple has plenty of them in stock, and is still manufacturing more. Do you know differently?
Apple will typically switch their production to focus on the new product a good month or two before it ships. Historically, we?ve seen an increase in delays of their products which has indicated that the revision is imminent, even though they hadn?t officially made an announcement.
What I don?t understand is how you know differently? What is the benefit for Apple maintaining two separate production lines for the same product shipping to the same country for the same price point? Did you see any original iPads for sale in the Apple Store? I didn?t. I can?t even find the iPad 1 at: http://www.apple.com/ipad/ . You have to go to their Refurbished iPad section to find them: http://store.apple.com/us/browse/hom...mco=OTY2ODY4NQ
Again, what makes you think the original iPad is in full swing production for the US -and- why would making more original iPads instead of using that effort to make more iPad 2s benefit Apple or the consumer waiting for an iPad 2?
Apple will typically switch their production to focus on the new product a good month or two before it ships. Historically, we’ve seen an increase in delays of their products which has indicated that the revision is imminent, even though they hadn’t officially made an announcement.
What I don’t understand is how you know differently? What is the benefit for Apple maintaining two separate production lines for the same product shipping to the same country for the same price point? Did you see any original iPads for sale in the Apple Store? I didn’t. I can’t even find the iPad 1 at: http://www.apple.com/ipad/ . You have to go to their Refurbished iPad section to find them: http://store.apple.com/us/browse/hom...mco=OTY2ODY4NQ
Again, what makes you think the original iPad is in full swing production for the US -and- why would making more original iPads instead of using that effort to make more iPad 2s benefit Apple or the consumer waiting for an iPad 2?
I had zero trouble finding iPad 1's on the Apple Online Store. 24 hour shipping.
P.S. - The link you gave to refurbished iPads leaves another way to go - let the customer have a refurbished iPad. 1-3 days shipping.
P.P.S. - To my knowledge, Apple started up a new assembly line for iPad 2's and is in the process of converting the old assembly lines from iPad 1's to iPad 2's - which is why they still sell the iPad 1's, but at a reduced price. Since it obviously takes time to retool from one type to the other, they will still be manufacturing the older version for some time, albeit in lesser amounts as time goes by.
P.S. - The link you gave to refurbished iPads leaves another way to go - let the customer have a refurbished iPad. 1-3 days shipping.
Those are clearance items. I'm fairly certain they aren't producing more just to sell on clearance (unless there is an odd new definition for clearance).
P.S. - The link you gave to refurbished iPads leaves another way to go - let the customer have a refurbished iPad. 1-3 days shipping.
One last time?
1) Why do you think they are producing millions of original iPad for the American market?
2) Why do you think producing millions of the original iPad for temporary use makes since over using that effort to produce more iPad 2s that people actually want.
Those are clearance items. I'm fairly certain they aren't producing more just to sell on clearance (unless there is an odd new definition for clearance).
1) Why do you think they are producing millions of original iPad for the American market?
2) Why do you think producing millions of the original iPad for temporary use makes since over using that effort to produce more iPad 2s that people actually want.
(1) Because they've dropped the prices by $100 each. Some people think about $ spent, and will be quite content with the older model. Check ebay. iPad 1's with 16 gigs are selling for $350. For another $50, you get one brand spanking new.
(2) I'm not talking about making more. I'm talking about using the ones that are already in the pipeline or already earmarked for manufacture.
(3) I gave you the url. Maybe you should try looking there. I punched up an order for an iPad 1 16 gig and it gave me shipping time of 24 hours.
For those that can't be bothered to read THOROUGHLY what people post, here it is again:
(1) Because they've dropped the prices by $100 each. Some people think about $ spent, and will be quite content with the older model. Check ebay. iPad 1's with 16 gigs are selling for $350. For another $50, you get one brand spanking new.
(2) I'm not talking about making more. I'm talking about using the ones that are already in the pipeline or already earmarked for manufacture.
(3) I gave you the url. Maybe you should try looking there. I punched up an order for an iPad 1 16 gig and it gave me shipping time of 24 hours.
For those that can't be bothered to read THOROUGHLY what people post, here it is again:
Yes Apple, work hard cracking the whip that makes the slaves pump these out faster. Apple you are not "working hard", your supply contractors are, ergo the common Chinese worker.
Taking a month to ramp up proper production is hardly rocket science.
Vandelay Industries - you would know about importing goods, wouldn't you? Or is it exporting you would know about? I forget.
And here, IMHO, is what Apple should do about this: Give everyone use of an iPad 1 for the interim. Yes, it creates a "used" iPad that has less value, but it nips the problem you've identified in the bud.
(Apologies to others who may have posted this idea previous to me - I just read this far down and had to react!)
Comments
LMAO!
http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Desktops-an...eycomb-210272/
Yes Apple, work hard cracking the whip that makes the slaves pump these out faster. Apple you are not "working hard", your supply contractors are, ergo the common Chinese worker.
Taking a month to ramp up proper production is hardly rocket science.
Are you someone who can compete with the product line, or someone whose product and revenues are at the same level or better than Apple's? How about your workforce? Is it well-placed in areas where you can simultaneously promote high wages, high compensation and and low product pricing? Yeah, this is a throwndown. Put up or shut-up. Either bring it or walk away.
Yeah I thought so. All blow and no show.
I'm not so sure. It all comes down to supply. If Apple can't build enough iPads, they might not be able to take advantage of the fire they started, and people might get frustrated and go for a Xoom. And buy Android apps and lock themselves in. Apple has a real risk here, and the iPad2's buildability matters a lot more at this point than any other spec the device has.
From your words to Apple's ears!
And here, IMHO, is what Apple should do about this: Give everyone use of an iPad 1 for the interim. Yes, it creates a "used" iPad that has less value, but it nips the problem you've identified in the bud.
(Apologies to others who may have posted this idea previous to me - I just read this far down and had to react!)
Motorola should take advantage of the situation and reduce the price of their tablet?"Xoom?$595. No Waiting!" Unfortunately when its time for buyers to mail back their Xooms for the one-week upgrade to 4G, Apple can run ads with "No Waiting" too. Won't be long before the Xoom becomes the Zune.
Agree. See my previous post to Booga.
From your words to Apple's ears!
And here, IMHO, is what Apple should do about this: Give everyone use of an iPad 1 for the interim. Yes, it creates a "used" iPad that has less value, but it nips the problem you've identified in the bud.
(Apologies to others who may have posted this idea previous to me - I just read this far down and had to react!)
And where are these millions of interim iPad 1s coming from?
Motorola should take advantage of the situation and reduce the price of their tablet?"Xoom?$595. No Waiting!" Unfortunately when its time for buyers to mail back their Xooms for the one-week upgrade to 4G, Apple can run ads with "No Waiting" too. Won't be long before the Xoom becomes the Zune.
The selling price probably doesn?t yield them much profit as it is, it?s just a way to get a foot in the door of this market. Dropping down to $595 would probably sell them all quickly, but at the risk of losing money on each transaction. You could say they could build more and economics of scale would kick in, but it?s that simple. You have to invest in x many units being manufactures and sourcing of those components, often not on a 1:1 ratio, then crunch the numbers. This is complex.
As for the ad, that too costs money. As for the ?No Waiting? slogan, Apple could do the same by marketing ?No Waiting? for apps. The iPad has 65k native apps while the Xoom has 100.?, ?No Waiting? to buy a complete device. The iPad 2 is sold fully functional without needing to be sent back to the factory to have hardware added months later.?, ?No Waiting? for your device. The iPad 2 destroys the Xoom in performance tests.?
And where are these millions of interim iPad 1s coming from?
To my knowledge, Apple has plenty of them in stock, and is still manufacturing more. Do you know differently?
To my knowledge, Apple has plenty of them in stock, and is still manufacturing more. Do you know differently?
Apple will typically switch their production to focus on the new product a good month or two before it ships. Historically, we?ve seen an increase in delays of their products which has indicated that the revision is imminent, even though they hadn?t officially made an announcement.
What I don?t understand is how you know differently? What is the benefit for Apple maintaining two separate production lines for the same product shipping to the same country for the same price point? Did you see any original iPads for sale in the Apple Store? I didn?t. I can?t even find the iPad 1 at: http://www.apple.com/ipad/ . You have to go to their Refurbished iPad section to find them: http://store.apple.com/us/browse/hom...mco=OTY2ODY4NQ
Again, what makes you think the original iPad is in full swing production for the US -and- why would making more original iPads instead of using that effort to make more iPad 2s benefit Apple or the consumer waiting for an iPad 2?
Apple will typically switch their production to focus on the new product a good month or two before it ships. Historically, we’ve seen an increase in delays of their products which has indicated that the revision is imminent, even though they hadn’t officially made an announcement.
What I don’t understand is how you know differently? What is the benefit for Apple maintaining two separate production lines for the same product shipping to the same country for the same price point? Did you see any original iPads for sale in the Apple Store? I didn’t. I can’t even find the iPad 1 at: http://www.apple.com/ipad/ . You have to go to their Refurbished iPad section to find them: http://store.apple.com/us/browse/hom...mco=OTY2ODY4NQ
Again, what makes you think the original iPad is in full swing production for the US -and- why would making more original iPads instead of using that effort to make more iPad 2s benefit Apple or the consumer waiting for an iPad 2?
I had zero trouble finding iPad 1's on the Apple Online Store. 24 hour shipping.
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB...co=MjEzNzE1ODc
Try again....
P.S. - The link you gave to refurbished iPads leaves another way to go - let the customer have a refurbished iPad. 1-3 days shipping.
P.P.S. - To my knowledge, Apple started up a new assembly line for iPad 2's and is in the process of converting the old assembly lines from iPad 1's to iPad 2's - which is why they still sell the iPad 1's, but at a reduced price. Since it obviously takes time to retool from one type to the other, they will still be manufacturing the older version for some time, albeit in lesser amounts as time goes by.
I had zero trouble finding iPad 1's on the Apple Online Store. 24 hour shipping.
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB...co=MjEzNzE1ODc
Try again....
P.S. - The link you gave to refurbished iPads leaves another way to go - let the customer have a refurbished iPad. 1-3 days shipping.
Those are clearance items. I'm fairly certain they aren't producing more just to sell on clearance (unless there is an odd new definition for clearance).
I had zero trouble finding iPad 1's on the Apple Online Store. 24 hour shipping.
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB...co=MjEzNzE1ODc
Try again....
P.S. - The link you gave to refurbished iPads leaves another way to go - let the customer have a refurbished iPad. 1-3 days shipping.
One last time?
1) Why do you think they are producing millions of original iPad for the American market?
2) Why do you think producing millions of the original iPad for temporary use makes since over using that effort to produce more iPad 2s that people actually want.
3) Where on http://www.apple.com/ipad/ is the original iPad listed?
Those are clearance items. I'm fairly certain they aren't producing more just to sell on clearance (unless there is an odd new definition for clearance).
I'm almost 100% sure you're wrong.
I'm almost 100% sure you're wrong.
And your evidence to back up your ?almost 100%? claim?
I'm almost 100% sure you're wrong.
http://store.apple.com/us/browse/hom...co=MjEzNTIxMzk
Note the clever use of the word clearance in the URL.
One last time…
1) Why do you think they are producing millions of original iPad for the American market?
2) Why do you think producing millions of the original iPad for temporary use makes since over using that effort to produce more iPad 2s that people actually want.
3) Where on http://www.apple.com/ipad/ is the original iPad listed?
(1) Because they've dropped the prices by $100 each. Some people think about $ spent, and will be quite content with the older model. Check ebay. iPad 1's with 16 gigs are selling for $350. For another $50, you get one brand spanking new.
(2) I'm not talking about making more. I'm talking about using the ones that are already in the pipeline or already earmarked for manufacture.
(3) I gave you the url. Maybe you should try looking there. I punched up an order for an iPad 1 16 gig and it gave me shipping time of 24 hours.
For those that can't be bothered to read THOROUGHLY what people post, here it is again:
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB...co=MjEzNzE1ODc
So sad, Sacto Joe, so sad.
I know you are, but what am I? (Peewee Herman)
(1) Because they've dropped the prices by $100 each. Some people think about $ spent, and will be quite content with the older model. Check ebay. iPad 1's with 16 gigs are selling for $350. For another $50, you get one brand spanking new.
(2) I'm not talking about making more. I'm talking about using the ones that are already in the pipeline or already earmarked for manufacture.
(3) I gave you the url. Maybe you should try looking there. I punched up an order for an iPad 1 16 gig and it gave me shipping time of 24 hours.
For those that can't be bothered to read THOROUGHLY what people post, here it is again:
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB...co=MjEzNzE1ODc
The silence is deafening....
Yes Apple, work hard cracking the whip that makes the slaves pump these out faster. Apple you are not "working hard", your supply contractors are, ergo the common Chinese worker.
Taking a month to ramp up proper production is hardly rocket science.
Vandelay Industries - you would know about importing goods, wouldn't you? Or is it exporting you would know about? I forget.
From your words to Apple's ears!
And here, IMHO, is what Apple should do about this: Give everyone use of an iPad 1 for the interim. Yes, it creates a "used" iPad that has less value, but it nips the problem you've identified in the bud.
(Apologies to others who may have posted this idea previous to me - I just read this far down and had to react!)
silly idea, not happening, move on...