First look: Apple's new 11 and 13 inch Thunderbolt MacBook Air

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  • Reply 61 of 79
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Onhka View Post


    Via Thunderbolt.* Sure you are smart enough to go from there.



    You did, "Just bought Extreme Base Station 2 months ago." What did you hook it up to?



    *http://www.apple.com/thunderbolt/



    Clearly I can connect one older monitor to the MacBook air thunderbolt port via the mini Displayport to HDMI or dvi adapter. But how do I connect two displays? and use them in extended desktop mode?



    I actually did try some research and the question was not resolved for me, maybe I am not smart enough. Anyway was looking for help.



    Sorry if you're still sore about my extreme base station rant, which was probably unjustified.
  • Reply 62 of 79
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MyDogHasFleas View Post


    Clearly I can connect one older monitor to the MacBook air thunderbolt port via the mini Displayport to HDMI or dvi adapter. But how do I connect two displays? and use them in extended desktop mode?



    Matrox' DualHead2Go, maybe?
  • Reply 63 of 79
    tipootipoo Posts: 1,145member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by res1233 View Post


    EDIT2: Well, regardless of how I'm reading it, it seems that the amount dedicated to the HD 3k is 256MB in the $999 11-inch model and 384MB in the $1199 model and the 13''. For some reason AI doesn't seem to mention that fact.







    If all other Intel IGP's are an indication, its more about 2 vs 4GB RAM than the MBA size. Someone should check if the 4GB 11' will use 384MB.



    In any case, with a chip like this the size of the vRAM likely won't be as constraining as the performance of the chip itself.
  • Reply 64 of 79
    wolfmanwolfman Posts: 79member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mobius View Post


    Off-topic: Why does everyone keep spelling tyre with an i? Aren't there enough i's in this Apple i-obsessed world already? \



    Of course, this question coming from a country where they still refer to people's weight in "stone"
  • Reply 65 of 79
    wolfmanwolfman Posts: 79member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by elroth View Post


    It's actually going to be $69.99, but that's not in addition to the Lion download - it's instead of the Lion download (it includes the purchase price for Lion).



    That's true, but if you purchased Lion via the App store like everyone else and the USB stick isn't going to be available for weeks, they won't give you a $30 rebate. so you'll be still paying for both
  • Reply 66 of 79
    bigpicsbigpics Posts: 1,397member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by REC View Post


    http://www.apple.com/macosx/recovery/



    Apple is clearly saying cd's and dvd's are no longer part of the Apple way with Lion. This stuff has no future according to them.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


    Probably because disc media doesn't have a future at all.



    Yeah, I am starting to wonder about when I'm going to retrieve those "Paperclip" word processing files off of my 5.25 Commodore 64 Floppies......



    ...guess the world will be able to do without that particular peerless prose......



    ...not to mention my analog reel-to-reel recordings and 8mm/Super 8 films (all of which would probably would disintegrate on attempting to even be run off their spools).



    The super-8 stuff is from my '60's Light Show, alas, which I would've liked to have preserved. I might (or not) try a specialist on that.....



    Anyway, sigh, time, media and Apple move on...... ...and "permanent" is a moving target as well.....
  • Reply 67 of 79
    capoeira4ucapoeira4u Posts: 160member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tipoo View Post


    " use Intel's HD Graphics 3000 chip using shared system RAM rather than the former Nvidia GeForce 320M with its 256 MB of dedicated DDR3 SDRAM "



    Incorrect, the 320M also used shared system RAM.



    I'm interested to know if this will make a difference for playing games, because the previous air with Nvidia could play many hardcore FPS games quite well.
  • Reply 68 of 79
    bigpicsbigpics Posts: 1,397member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Wolfman View Post


    Of course, this question coming from a country where they still refer to people's weight in "stone"



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mobius View Post


    Thanks for enlightening me (no sarcasm intended). I had no idea about that.



    I've always known it spelt as tyre, and have never seen it as tire so it looked odd when so many people were spelling it as such.



    Thanks again.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Onhka View Post


    Ask you self why, you changed it.



    I never get tyred of anglophilism discussions...
  • Reply 69 of 79
    ernsternst Posts: 11member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by a_greer View Post


    Apple not including media is like Lexus or BMW not including a spare tire...



    Most models BMW have not included spare for years. Many more cars are now like that.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mobius View Post


    Off-topic: Why does everyone keep spelling tyre with an i? Aren't there enough i's in this Apple i-obsessed world already? \



    Having no spare may be a problem should you strike a kerb with your tyre.



  • Reply 70 of 79
    dr_evildr_evil Posts: 10member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


    To be fair, I spell it grey, but that's only because I lived in Greystones for a while.



    Yes, the real one, not an American one.



    And I say zed, but THAT'S because of how much cooler that is than Z.



    Zed's dead, baby. Zed's dead.
  • Reply 71 of 79
    onhkaonhka Posts: 1,025member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


    Matrox' DualHead2Go, maybe?



    I have a second external monitor connected to my MacBook Pro via a Diamand DualLink USB. Don't see why it or a similar setup wouldn't work with Thunderbird as well.



    Looks like Matrox may work. Heck, they claim to be able to connect up to 3 external monitors on the new Thunderbolt-Enabled MacBook Pros. http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/pr...o_thunderbolt/
  • Reply 72 of 79
    patranuspatranus Posts: 366member
    I am really surprised that there is still no black border around the monitor.



    Seems as if they would want to standardize their industrial design.
  • Reply 73 of 79
    cloudgazercloudgazer Posts: 2,161member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Patranus View Post


    I am really surprised that there is still no black border around the monitor.



    Seems as if they would want to standardize their industrial design.



    They couldn't standardize without putting a glass panel over the screen, which would add both thickness and weight. That's justified in an iPad where the screen is going to see a lot more wear, but it doesn't make sense on an ultraportable notebook.



    A black metal bezel would just have looked naff.
  • Reply 74 of 79
    prwprw Posts: 31member
    Scaramanga89:

    It's an awful lot of hoops versus supplying a $2 thumb drive, don't you think?



    But a lot more useful than paying Apple $69 for a single purpose dongle.



    And it should be an 8 GB USB thumb drive, if you are going that route.
  • Reply 75 of 79
    bongobongo Posts: 158member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Scaramanga89 View Post


    It's an awful lot of hoops versus supplying a $2 thumb drive, don't you think?



    The USB drive doesn't go on sale until August. Speaking as someone who's typing this on a brand new MacBook Air, I'm pretty glad they didn't wait to ship this computer until the USB drives were ready.
  • Reply 76 of 79
    pendergastpendergast Posts: 1,358member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by a_greer View Post


    I dont like the no recovery media part... that should be included even if it isnt "cool" or whatever and it couldnt cost more than $2-3$ -- what if the internal drive fails? what if the user wants to wipe and reload before sale (and when I say wipe and reload, i dont mean just blast an image on from a recovery partition. What I mean is use a program like DBAN to wipe the entire disk to DoD spec as I do when selling old gear or even giving it to family)





    I expect no media or some crappy DIY solution when I am buying a $300 netbook, I do not expect this from Apples pricey ultra portable line.



    So you're wondering how you would reinstall the OS if the drive fails? Um, what are you supposed to reinstall it TO if the drive fails? Are you going to buy a new SSD, pry the Air apart, and perform a DIY? Unlikely. The majority of people would take it to the Apple Store.



    Most of the time, it's not the drive that fails (especially with a SSD) but rather the partition that gets corrupted; in this case, you would have an uncorrupted partition to restore from.
  • Reply 77 of 79
    pendergastpendergast Posts: 1,358member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by wizard69 View Post


    Very bad in fact.



    First; hidden part ions can be exploited by virus writers. Second; drives fail. Third; it wastes space p, especially on AIRs where space is extremely limited.



    Supposedly this gives the machine the ability to restore right over the Internet. OK; so what do you do if the partition on the drive isn't restorable? Yeah I know sometimes it is but a un repairable drive is not uncommon.



    From Apples standpoint I can see some positives. For one it allows a restore even if the user doesn't have his dongle with him. Let's have a show of hands - how many know where their USB key is right now?



    Apple could easily address this by simply offering a utility to build a recovery drive on a USB dongle or an SD card.



    Why do people keep worrying about if the drive fails? If the drive fails, you're going to have to bring it into the Apple Store; it's not a desktop device with easily swappable components.



    And if the drive fails (as in, the SSD is toast, the recovery partition is corrupted, and it needs to be replaced), what good is external media going to do, other than boot the computer up and see that the drive is bad? The odds of this happening on a SSD are much lower than a HDD, and if it did, the Genius Bar has the external media you need.
  • Reply 78 of 79
    cloudgazercloudgazer Posts: 2,161member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by wizard69 View Post


    Supposedly this gives the machine the ability to restore right over the Internet. OK; so what do you do if the partition on the drive isn't restorable? Yeah I know sometimes it is but a un repairable drive is not uncommon.



    The internet restore will work even if the drive is completely blank and has no restore partition, it should work even if the p-table is corrupt, so long as the drive can be reformatted. It's built into the boot loader ROM on these machines as I understand it.
  • Reply 79 of 79
    i was wondering when it was prevailing to happen! hahahahaha



    I genuinely LOVE those dresses, I have seen them all over the place. If I had the torso (and banknotes) I would for all take one. I love Megan Fox too, she is my height. I wish I had her group!
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