Apple charges too much for cloud services that can be found for free and at times are superior. Maybe not all at the same place thou - but Apple is trying to put value into servicing all features with it's one offering, as individually, none stand on their own that warrant the price.
iChat vs Skype for example. Skype is free, works great, everyone can access it. iChat on the other hand, is proprietary and costs $120. Doesn't matter that iChat is great and has all sorts of cool features... if there is nobody to connect to.
Also, there aren't any 'needed' services that Apple's cloud offers that couldn't be done manually with a tiny bit of effort. (like having the same piece of music on all your devices).
Apple has also surrendered offerings for business and industry. So there is really nothing compelling for that market.
Then there is the trust issue of 'Cloud' services.
.mac / mobile me / iCloud... it is somewhat remarkable that Apple keeps face-planting with online services. Making the service free would go a very long ways in drawing people to the platform. As it currently stands, iCloud is looking like more of the same... fail.
'Free' is not in Apple's DNA. They will have to hit a major home run with some new or compelling service to see wide spread adoption of it's cloud service.
MobileMe, which cost $99 per year (though could be had cheaper on eBay and through 3rd parties) offered some services like e-mail, calendar, contacts, gallery, idisk, etc. and it is now being discontinued in favor of the 100% free iCloud (and unlike 3rd parties, also has NO ADS).
Can we please shutter "shutter"? That's an overworked metaphor. Some years ago, a tornado de-shuttered my house. One of the shutters flew away, never to be found again. Since then, I seem to be tripping over shutters all over the web. Must be where they went. The shutters have shown up on web sites right before they've closed, and now on product features! When you shutter the door on your office, drive home, shutter the door on your car, and after you shutter your email, please don't shutter your dictionary or your thesaurus. The English language has more than one word for what you call shuttering. I read about all these shutters and shudder. Stand out from the pack! Shutter this nonsense and get a vocabulary!
Shut' it is then though I suspect the Italians won't have a choice.
Apple charges too much for cloud services that can be found for free and at times are superior. Maybe not all at the same place thou - but Apple is trying to put value into servicing all features with it's one offering, as individually, none stand on their own that warrant the price.
iChat vs Skype for example. Skype is free, works great, everyone can access it. iChat on the other hand, is proprietary and costs $120. Doesn't matter that iChat is great and has all sorts of cool features... if there is nobody to connect to.
Also, there aren't any 'needed' services that Apple's cloud offers that couldn't be done manually with a tiny bit of effort. (like having the same piece of music on all your devices).
Apple has also surrendered offerings for business and industry. So there is really nothing compelling for that market.
Then there is the trust issue of 'Cloud' services.
.mac / mobile me / iCloud... it is somewhat remarkable that Apple keeps face-planting with online services. Making the service free would go a very long ways in drawing people to the platform. As it currently stands, iCloud is looking like more of the same... fail.
'Free' is not in Apple's DNA. They will have to hit a major home run with some new or compelling service to see wide spread adoption of it's cloud service.
You two realize that iCloud has APIs that will tie into both iOS and Mac App Store apps, right? There is no reason to think there will be no way to sync data outside of iTunes with this dynamic setup and every reason to think that it'll be world's better than what iDisk has give .Mac/MobileMe users over the years.
I think that is cool and is very tempting to jump ship from MobileMe now, but iDisk let's you share files and throw any random crap which makes it pretty useful in my experience. Heck, I'm greedy and want it all. Lol.
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What the hell are you talking about?
This post made me LOL and was exactly what I was thinking when I read the post it was referring to.
Apple have really Microsofted MobileMe up. They're assuming features are unwanted because few people use them. The fact is the lack of popularity of MobileMe or any of it's features is purely down to the lack of free entrypoint driving Mac users to other solutions. This omission has blighted most of Apple's service-based apps too. AppleID does almost everything but who knew? Is it logical to use a Gmail or Yahoo email address for Apple services? They should have given out free mac/me.com IDs with iTunes from the start. This kind of identity branding is right up Apple's street too, what a bizarre omission!
I hope Apple get the whole identity thing right with iCloud. Get the basics right and the rest makes sense.
Apple charges too much for cloud services that can be found for free and at times are superior. Maybe not all at the same place thou - but Apple is trying to put value into servicing all features with it's one offering, as individually, none stand on their own that warrant the price.
iChat vs Skype for example. Skype is free, works great, everyone can access it. iChat on the other hand, is proprietary and costs $120. Doesn't matter that iChat is great and has all sorts of cool features... if there is nobody to connect to.
Also, there aren't any 'needed' services that Apple's cloud offers that couldn't be done manually with a tiny bit of effort. (like having the same piece of music on all your devices).
Apple has also surrendered offerings for business and industry. So there is really nothing compelling for that market.
Then there is the trust issue of 'Cloud' services.
.mac / mobile me / iCloud... it is somewhat remarkable that Apple keeps face-planting with online services. Making the service free would go a very long ways in drawing people to the platform. As it currently stands, iCloud is looking like more of the same... fail.
'Free' is not in Apple's DNA. They will have to hit a major home run with some new or compelling service to see wide spread adoption of it's cloud service.
Actually iChat is free. Tap in your AppleID and you're away but Apple forgot to tell anyone.
Skype is also free and great, it finally has all the features of iChat in 2005.
Luckily iCloud will be free for any Apple device owner but it would make sense to extend it to iTunes users for platform draw.
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I like keeping iDisk. It's very convenient for me.
So keep it until June 2012.
Apple charges too much for cloud services that can be found for free and at times are superior. Maybe not all at the same place thou - but Apple is trying to put value into servicing all features with it's one offering, as individually, none stand on their own that warrant the price.
iChat vs Skype for example. Skype is free, works great, everyone can access it. iChat on the other hand, is proprietary and costs $120. Doesn't matter that iChat is great and has all sorts of cool features... if there is nobody to connect to.
Also, there aren't any 'needed' services that Apple's cloud offers that couldn't be done manually with a tiny bit of effort. (like having the same piece of music on all your devices).
Apple has also surrendered offerings for business and industry. So there is really nothing compelling for that market.
Then there is the trust issue of 'Cloud' services.
.mac / mobile me / iCloud... it is somewhat remarkable that Apple keeps face-planting with online services. Making the service free would go a very long ways in drawing people to the platform. As it currently stands, iCloud is looking like more of the same... fail.
'Free' is not in Apple's DNA. They will have to hit a major home run with some new or compelling service to see wide spread adoption of it's cloud service.
What the hell are you talking about?
What the hell are you talking about?
He's a troll. Ignore him.
What the hell are you talking about?
Please read the article and my comment - I'm sure you will figure it out then.
He's a troll. Ignore him.
Says Grima Wormtongue
Please read the article and my comment - I'm sure you will figure it out then.
You do realize that #1 iChat is Free, and also connects to AIM.
And #2, iCloud is also 100% Free.
MobileMe, which cost $99 per year (though could be had cheaper on eBay and through 3rd parties) offered some services like e-mail, calendar, contacts, gallery, idisk, etc. and it is now being discontinued in favor of the 100% free iCloud (and unlike 3rd parties, also has NO ADS).
Can we please shutter "shutter"? That's an overworked metaphor. Some years ago, a tornado de-shuttered my house. One of the shutters flew away, never to be found again. Since then, I seem to be tripping over shutters all over the web. Must be where they went. The shutters have shown up on web sites right before they've closed, and now on product features! When you shutter the door on your office, drive home, shutter the door on your car, and after you shutter your email, please don't shutter your dictionary or your thesaurus. The English language has more than one word for what you call shuttering. I read about all these shutters and shudder. Stand out from the pack! Shutter this nonsense and get a vocabulary!
Shut' it is then though I suspect the Italians won't have a choice.
I have used MobileMe to sync my Safari bookmarks between my computers for years. I would be thrilled to see that added to iCloud.
Google chrome does it for free along with other services
Apple charges too much for cloud services that can be found for free and at times are superior. Maybe not all at the same place thou - but Apple is trying to put value into servicing all features with it's one offering, as individually, none stand on their own that warrant the price.
iChat vs Skype for example. Skype is free, works great, everyone can access it. iChat on the other hand, is proprietary and costs $120. Doesn't matter that iChat is great and has all sorts of cool features... if there is nobody to connect to.
Also, there aren't any 'needed' services that Apple's cloud offers that couldn't be done manually with a tiny bit of effort. (like having the same piece of music on all your devices).
Apple has also surrendered offerings for business and industry. So there is really nothing compelling for that market.
Then there is the trust issue of 'Cloud' services.
.mac / mobile me / iCloud... it is somewhat remarkable that Apple keeps face-planting with online services. Making the service free would go a very long ways in drawing people to the platform. As it currently stands, iCloud is looking like more of the same... fail.
'Free' is not in Apple's DNA. They will have to hit a major home run with some new or compelling service to see wide spread adoption of it's cloud service.
You two realize that iCloud has APIs that will tie into both iOS and Mac App Store apps, right? There is no reason to think there will be no way to sync data outside of iTunes with this dynamic setup and every reason to think that it'll be world's better than what iDisk has give .Mac/MobileMe users over the years.
I think that is cool and is very tempting to jump ship from MobileMe now, but iDisk let's you share files and throw any random crap which makes it pretty useful in my experience. Heck, I'm greedy and want it all. Lol.
What the hell are you talking about?
This post made me LOL and was exactly what I was thinking when I read the post it was referring to.
And they are locked to mac's
Uh, no.
Well, iChat is, but there are plenty of Windows chat services that work perfectly well with iChat on a Mac.
I hope Apple get the whole identity thing right with iCloud. Get the basics right and the rest makes sense.
Let Apple know here: http://www.apple.com/feedback/mobileme.html
Thank you! I just left a message at this site. I encourage others to do the same!!
Or Apple should buy DropBox though like iDisk much better than DropBox which I find slower.
DropBox is becoming more popular every day, so was is Apple dropping iDisk?
Cloud strorage? iDisk !
Not sure why they couldn't have put that in the article.
Apple charges too much for cloud services that can be found for free and at times are superior. Maybe not all at the same place thou - but Apple is trying to put value into servicing all features with it's one offering, as individually, none stand on their own that warrant the price.
iChat vs Skype for example. Skype is free, works great, everyone can access it. iChat on the other hand, is proprietary and costs $120. Doesn't matter that iChat is great and has all sorts of cool features... if there is nobody to connect to.
Also, there aren't any 'needed' services that Apple's cloud offers that couldn't be done manually with a tiny bit of effort. (like having the same piece of music on all your devices).
Apple has also surrendered offerings for business and industry. So there is really nothing compelling for that market.
Then there is the trust issue of 'Cloud' services.
.mac / mobile me / iCloud... it is somewhat remarkable that Apple keeps face-planting with online services. Making the service free would go a very long ways in drawing people to the platform. As it currently stands, iCloud is looking like more of the same... fail.
'Free' is not in Apple's DNA. They will have to hit a major home run with some new or compelling service to see wide spread adoption of it's cloud service.
Actually iChat is free. Tap in your AppleID and you're away but Apple forgot to tell anyone.
Skype is also free and great, it finally has all the features of iChat in 2005.
Luckily iCloud will be free for any Apple device owner but it would make sense to extend it to iTunes users for platform draw.
I like my site on iWeb, and don't really feel like rewriting the site and putting it somewhere else.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO.
Just point it to a different address and iWeb will publish it there.
For heaven's sake.