Do you think Xbox is winning in the gaming department? There are over 200 million iOS devices sold compared to 50 million 360's.
You can't argue with those figures can you, it plays games, therefore it's devices must be competing in the same space.
Btw Apple sold a total of 2 million Apple TV 2's when they last reported the figures For the 2nd fiscal quarter of 2011. (that does not include any sales of the first gen devices)
We are talking about the living room/TV battle.
How many iOS devices are living room/TV devices? So 2 or 3 million vs 60 Million Xboxes?
Apple is going to have to make it a heck of lot more compelling if they want to make any dent in the living room.
Speaking of going over idiots[sic] head, my use of the Amazon link was pointing out the market category. I even underlined market to make it clear.
Clear as mud. What is underlining half a word supposed to imply? You talked about top market share then presented the Amazon link with Apple TV on top.
Pretty clear implication that you were using Amazon as some kind of proof of market share.
One button works on the iPhone/iPad because all the other clicks/selections are done on the screen. Are you suggesting these TVs will be touch screen?
Why does TV interaction require more than two buttons and a D-pad? The current Apple Remote will suffice, and you can always use an iOS device to get to your content faster.
Why does TV interaction require more than two buttons and a D-pad? The current Apple Remote will suffice, and you can always use an iOS device to get to your content faster.
Direct Channel access. A very common thing I do is flip between two channels.
If I am on 65 and want to also check 23, I just type 2, 3 to go to 23, then I can use the "previous channel" button to instantly flip between them.
I also have Direct Source button for my HTPC. A direct closed captioning button. A direct Mute button to kill sound instantly.
2 buttons and D-Pad means putting many useful direct functions into menus and navigating around. That is not an improvement.
Nah, those are the incumbents destined for disruption. Or so we hope eh?
Depends on the definition of "we"
Since I cannot purchase or rent any tv shows via iTunes, the restrictive nature of the Apple only TV that people here are putting forward seems quite silly, and since most of the worlds iTunes stores have the same issue, this would be restricted to a US only device.
Great, so when I am in the middle of a program and the kid comes through the living room whining "I wanna watch cartoon network" the TV will change channels?
Or - with the TV something like 15 feet away from me - "Find Mythbusters" - "Find MYTHBUSTERS" - "FIND MYTHBUSTERS" - "FIND MYTH BUSTERS" - oh forget it.
more than likely you will have to push a button on a remote that would lower the volume and then allow you to speak your command so that extrainious noise would not interfear
Try this: Complete incompetence on your part, so you go into butt-covering mode by whining "oh, you just didn't GET me 'cause YOU'RE the idiot".
Hey, you are the nitwit that started in with the personal insults over nothing. Perhaps if you took a second to actually read before jumping the gun you wouldn't appear so clueless.
You quoted me out of context, leaving out the question in the first line that makes it quite clear I don't think you can use Amazon as a market share indicator:
"Do you think that means Apple TV is winning in the market? "
Then I post an example of another segment where Amazon clearly gets it wrong.
I would think it obvious that we all know Apple is #1 in tablets and that Amazon rankings are way off the mark. The big Smiley face could also be a clue.
In deference to the witless. I will use sarcasm tags and maybe a spoiler where I explain it in detail for you.
Still confused?
You appear to be the kind of jerk that justifies some the people who hate Apple fans.
Sony would warranty the repair work they did, which was not the solution, but would not fix the real problem because the rest of the TV was no longer under warranty.
Poor Apple, not even in the top 10, down at 14th place.
You don't have to add anyone's market share. Xbox 360 has sold over 50 Million Units and is fast becoming the Living room platform, by comparison, Apple TV is around 1 Million.
You can buy iPads at more places than just Amazon...
Plus... Apple has sold over 40 million iPads since April 2010... none of those other tablets even come close.
The cost of the TV is one thing and of course one has to own other idevices to work in conjunction with it adding more to the cost.
What's going to be the difference between a iTV vs a much less expensive TV with an Apple TV box hooked up to it?
I guess we will know once they launch it.. if it going to be a part of the closed wall of apple..In India it will not work at all. As apple is not at all interested in having India in their business map. But things may change in the future with apple pricing their products in sync with the international market..
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Woosh, totally going over idiots head.
Dear idiot, I was pointing out how utterly useless Amazon is for tracking this kind of thing after someone else tried to use Amazon as Proof.
Speaking of going over idiots[sic] head, my use of the Amazon link was pointing out the market category. I even underlined market to make it clear.
Do you think Xbox is winning in the gaming department? There are over 200 million iOS devices sold compared to 50 million 360's.
You can't argue with those figures can you, it plays games, therefore it's devices must be competing in the same space.
Btw Apple sold a total of 2 million Apple TV 2's when they last reported the figures For the 2nd fiscal quarter of 2011. (that does not include any sales of the first gen devices)
We are talking about the living room/TV battle.
How many iOS devices are living room/TV devices? So 2 or 3 million vs 60 Million Xboxes?
Apple is going to have to make it a heck of lot more compelling if they want to make any dent in the living room.
How many iOS devices are living room [?] devices?
All of them.
Speaking of going over idiots[sic] head, my use of the Amazon link was pointing out the market category. I even underlined market to make it clear.
Clear as mud. What is underlining half a word supposed to imply? You talked about top market share then presented the Amazon link with Apple TV on top.
Pretty clear implication that you were using Amazon as some kind of proof of market share.
All of them.
Really? Everyone buys iphones and leaves them hooked up to their HDTVs?
By your twisted logic they are quite dwarfed by a few Billion PCs that must all be living room devices as well.
One button. Just like the iPhone. Just like the iPad. One button.
One button works on the iPhone/iPad because all the other clicks/selections are done on the screen. Are you suggesting these TVs will be touch screen?
One button works on the iPhone/iPad because all the other clicks/selections are done on the screen. Are you suggesting these TVs will be touch screen?
Why does TV interaction require more than two buttons and a D-pad? The current Apple Remote will suffice, and you can always use an iOS device to get to your content faster.
Why does TV interaction require more than two buttons and a D-pad? The current Apple Remote will suffice, and you can always use an iOS device to get to your content faster.
Direct Channel access. A very common thing I do is flip between two channels.
If I am on 65 and want to also check 23, I just type 2, 3 to go to 23, then I can use the "previous channel" button to instantly flip between them.
I also have Direct Source button for my HTPC. A direct closed captioning button. A direct Mute button to kill sound instantly.
2 buttons and D-Pad means putting many useful direct functions into menus and navigating around. That is not an improvement.
Nah, those are the incumbents destined for disruption. Or so we hope eh?
Depends on the definition of "we"
Since I cannot purchase or rent any tv shows via iTunes, the restrictive nature of the Apple only TV that people here are putting forward seems quite silly, and since most of the worlds iTunes stores have the same issue, this would be restricted to a US only device.
Great, so when I am in the middle of a program and the kid comes through the living room whining "I wanna watch cartoon network" the TV will change channels?
Or - with the TV something like 15 feet away from me - "Find Mythbusters" - "Find MYTHBUSTERS" - "FIND MYTHBUSTERS" - "FIND MYTH BUSTERS" - oh forget it.
more than likely you will have to push a button on a remote that would lower the volume and then allow you to speak your command so that extrainious noise would not interfear
Woosh, totally going over idiots head.
Dear idiot, I was pointing out how utterly useless Amazon is for tracking this kind of thing after someone else tried to use Amazon as Proof.
Try this: Complete incompetence on your part, so you go into butt-covering mode by whining "oh, you just didn't GET me 'cause YOU'RE the idiot".
Yeah, that's what happened. Nice clothes, Emperor.
Pretty clear implication that you were using Amazon as some kind of proof of market share.
And now he's after SolipsismX. Everyone's wrong but Snowdog. Got it.
Try this: Complete incompetence on your part, so you go into butt-covering mode by whining "oh, you just didn't GET me 'cause YOU'RE the idiot".
Hey, you are the nitwit that started in with the personal insults over nothing. Perhaps if you took a second to actually read before jumping the gun you wouldn't appear so clueless.
You quoted me out of context, leaving out the question in the first line that makes it quite clear I don't think you can use Amazon as a market share indicator:
"Do you think that means Apple TV is winning in the market? "
Then I post an example of another segment where Amazon clearly gets it wrong.
I would think it obvious that we all know Apple is #1 in tablets and that Amazon rankings are way off the mark. The big Smiley face could also be a clue.
In deference to the witless. I will use sarcasm tags and maybe a spoiler where I explain it in detail for you.
Still confused?
You appear to be the kind of jerk that justifies some the people who hate Apple fans.
Sony would warranty the repair work they did, which was not the solution, but would not fix the real problem because the rest of the TV was no longer under warranty.
Sony customer service is horrible.
Imagine for a moment, an "Entertainment iMac" with a bigger screen, but minus the things you don't need.
They will put iOS on it. It will be like a big iPod Touch.
Do you think that means Apple TV is winning in the market?
Look at best selling tablets:
http://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-E...nav_e_2_541966
Poor Apple, not even in the top 10, down at 14th place.
You don't have to add anyone's market share. Xbox 360 has sold over 50 Million Units and is fast becoming the Living room platform, by comparison, Apple TV is around 1 Million.
You can buy iPads at more places than just Amazon...
Plus... Apple has sold over 40 million iPads since April 2010... none of those other tablets even come close.
You can buy iPads at more places than just Amazon...
Plus... Apple has sold over 40 million iPads since April 2010... none of those other tablets even come close.
Yes, I was more pointing out the invalidity of using Amazon as a market share indicator, by showing an absurd result.
Yeah sure, Apple.. what will it cost.. In India going by the trend of pricing of apple products.... A kidney...
The cost of the TV is one thing and of course one has to own other idevices to work in conjunction with it adding more to the cost.
What's going to be the difference between a iTV vs a much less expensive TV with an Apple TV box hooked up to it?
The cost of the TV is one thing and of course one has to own other idevices to work in conjunction with it adding more to the cost.
What's going to be the difference between a iTV vs a much less expensive TV with an Apple TV box hooked up to it?
I guess we will know once they launch it.. if it going to be a part of the closed wall of apple..In India it will not work at all. As apple is not at all interested in having India in their business map. But things may change in the future with apple pricing their products in sync with the international market..