... but Samsung doing well on stolen IP is no indication that Apple is faltering.
Quote:
Originally Posted by MHD
Spoken like a true fb.
Please explain.
He stated that Samsung is doing well. Not great. Well. In comparison to the competition that seems a fair judgement as their market share is growing and their profit share is second only to Apple although only a fraction of Apple profits.
Regarding the stolen IP, there are examples of authorities agreeing with said statement. In August 2011, the Landgericht court in Dusseldorf Germany granted Apple's request for an EU-wide preliminary injunction barring Samsung from selling its Galaxy Tab v10.1 device on the grounds Samsung's product infringed on two of Apple's interface patents. After Samsung's allegations of evidence tampering were heard, the court rescinded the EU-wide injunction and granted Apple a lesser injunction that only applied to the German market. There are a number of lawsuits, trade complaints, and countersuits and complaints based on patents and designs in the markets for smartphones, and devices based on smartphone OSes such as Android and iOS.
Apple does not appear to be faltering based on their recently released figures of quarterly revenue of $39.19 billion with a 94% rise in earnings to $11.6 billion or $12.30 per diluted share. Apple gross margin was 47.4 percent compared to 41.4 percent in the year-ago quarter. Furthermore, Apple sold 35.1 million iPhones in the quarter, representing 88 percent unit growth over the year-ago quarter. Apple sold 11.8 million iPads during the quarter, a 151 percent unit increase over the year-ago quarter. Additionally, Apple sold 4 million Macs during the quarter, a 7 percent unit increase over the year-ago quarter.
At first I thought this was pathetic and annoying, but after watching the video, I love it! Not for the reason you might think. Halfway through the video I noticed the juxtaposition of the people in the store and the mob outside - inside Apple was making money, and outside Samsung was wasting money! It's just like their phones and tablets, Apple is business as usual, and Samsung is all hype.
This is nothing compared to the kind of stuff Samsung does in Korea. They have workers in semiconductor plant dying from lukemia and they complete deny that it's work related. They kidnap people when the workers try to form a union. They were named by Green peace as the third worst company in the world.
This is nothing compared to the kind of stuff Samsung does in Korea. They have workers in semiconductor plant dying from lukemia and they complete deny that it's work related. They kidnap people when the workers try to form a union. They were named by Green peace as the third worst company in the world.
Apple had explosions at their ipad factories killing and injuring many. When a worker lost an iphone, security guards went to the employee's residence and roughed him up. The next day he committed suicide.
Greenpeace gave Apple low marks and criticized it for its reliance on coal-based power.
So Samsung is going after Apple users for being mindless conformists, yet they do it in a way that requires all participants to dress in identical clothing and chant in unison. Right.....
See I would appreciate this kind of activity if the protestors actually represented a homegrown, almost mom & pop company picketing the giant machine. It's kind of like whenever Walmart announces plans to build a new store somewhere in small town USA there are always protestors who are small business owners, and you feel for them because Walmart is guaranteed to wipe out their sales. But this is friggin' Samsung. This protest wasn't dreamt up as a means to save a near-bankrupt small local business. This is a bunch of out-of-touch Korean dudes in $4,000 suits sitting around a conference table looking for the fastest way to make a couple billion more bucks.
<p> </p><div class="quote-container"<p> If I can't use the word 'fanboy', which other word should I use to describe somebody who refuses to recognise any flaws in a company's products?</p>
Apple had explosions at their ipad factories killing and injuring many. When a worker lost an iphone, security guards went to the employee's residence and roughed him up. The next day he committed suicide.
Greenpeace gave Apple low marks and criticized it for its reliance on coal-based power.
It's not apple owned factory but foxconn factory. Apple doesn't directly run any factories.
It's not apple owned factory but foxconn factory. Apple doesn't directly run any factories.
Oh god, we all know apple doesn't own the factories, but they do control them. Apple has even pressured one vendor to stop building computers for a competitor.
Even Apple's own employees got the shaft from steve's "no-poach" agreements.
In China, Human Costs Are Built Into an iPad
Jan 26, 2012
Apple typically asks suppliers to specify how much every part costs, how many workers are needed and the size of their salaries. Executives want to know every financial detail. Afterward, Apple calculates how much it will pay for a part. Most suppliers are allowed only the slimmest of profits.
So suppliers often try to cut corners, replace expensive chemicals with less costly alternatives, or push their employees to work faster and longer, according to people at those companies.
“The only way you make money working for Apple is figuring out how to do things more efficiently or cheaper,” said an executive at one company that helped bring the iPad to market. “And then they’ll come back the next year, and force a 10 percent price cut.”
Apple reportedly squeezes Pegatron into ceasing ASUS ultrabook production
Feb 13, 2012
Apple has reportedly moved to curb the production of new ‘ultrabook’ portable computers by Taiwanese technology giant ASUS, by forcing its manufacturing partner Pegatron to choose between production contracts for the two companies.
Oh god, we all know apple doesn't own the factories, but they do control them. Apple has even pressured one vendor to stop building computers for a competitor.
Even Apple's own employees got the shaft from steve's "no-poach" agreements.
In China, Human Costs Are Built Into an iPad
Jan 26, 2012
Apple typically asks suppliers to specify how much every part costs, how many workers are needed and the size of their salaries. Executives want to know every financial detail. Afterward, Apple calculates how much it will pay for a part. Most suppliers are allowed only the slimmest of profits.
So suppliers often try to cut corners, replace expensive chemicals with less costly alternatives, or push their employees to work faster and longer, according to people at those companies.
“The only way you make money working for Apple is figuring out how to do things more efficiently or cheaper,” said an executive at one company that helped bring the iPad to market. “And then they’ll come back the next year, and force a 10 percent price cut.”
Apple reportedly squeezes Pegatron into ceasing ASUS ultrabook production
Feb 13, 2012
Apple has reportedly moved to curb the production of new ‘ultrabook’ portable computers by Taiwanese technology giant ASUS, by forcing its manufacturing partner Pegatron to choose between production contracts for the two companies.
The WHOLE thing seems fishy to me, even the VIDEO.
So this guy just happens to be testing out his microphone, manages to capture multiple panoramic viewing angles, goes home and edits the video with pretty tight cuts and posts it to YouTube???? I don't think so - this video has to be part of the campaign. Whatever ad agency is responsible knew full well that a video with a flash mob in front of an Apple store would be passed around all the tech and Apple rumor sites. And look - here we are, all discussing and learning about the release of a new Samsung phone which I personally didn't have a clue about before reading this thread.. Good or bad, I don't know, but it is pretty clever marketing.
That is nothing compared to what Samsung does in Korea. If any company does that kind of stuff in US, all the executives will be jail for life.
Apple never kidnapped anyone. The Samsung CEO's son evaded taxes when he inherited his father's wealth. Every one in Korea knows all this stuff.
If it wasn't for our government and mainstream media to keep them in check, over zealous apple employees would come very close. Remember Cava22?
Do you know Apple has over $110 billion in cash in the bank? Out of that, over $64 billion dollars is in overseas accounts and they want to avoid paying taxes on it. They want to bring that money into the US to "...create jobs and infuse cash into our struggling economy.", but they are complaining that the tax rate is too high so they won't. They won't do it unless the government gives them, and other rich companies, a "Tax Holiday", a tax break. The last time there was a tax holiday, 2004, the people that benefitted from it were far from unemployed or struggling in the economy. The money was spent on dividends and stock repurchases. The very things apple said they are going to do this July.
It's funny that Apple's competition continues to think that their sales are so low simply because customers are not aware of them. Their failure is partly down to their business model of using software developed by someone else and making poor hardware design choices.
Samsung's aim is to mimic Apple to the finest detail, implement their products with lower standards and then proclaim to the world that they are the next big thing and that customers are obviously either too stupid to realise it or oblivious to it.
Customers are a pretty discerning crowd, always trying to get the best quality for the lowest price. When Samsung sells a Galaxy Tab 10.1 for $50 more than an iPad 2, those discerning customers are not going to spend more money on a worse product.
The wake up call is for Apple's competition. For you to win, you don't need Apple to fail, you just need to do a better job. Good luck with that.
In general, I find chanting protests very awkward. You have to think after 20 seconds of saying the same thing, you're bound to feel a bit stupid because you've really made your point and beyond that you're just making a nuisance of yourself. It also makes them look lazy in that they haven't really thought out their message and how to follow through on it. Well, I'm sure they'll figure it out the long way.
Other possibilities: "Wake up" alludes to / echoes the theme song to an Inconvenient Truth -- suggesting an environmental organization is protesting Apple.
Apple had explosions at their ipad factories killing and injuring many. When a worker lost an iphone, security guards went to the employee's residence and roughed him up. The next day he committed suicide.
Greenpeace gave Apple low marks and criticized it for its reliance on coal-based power.
TROLL ALERT! Everybody laugh at the troll. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Comments
Quote:
Originally Posted by LordJohnWhorfin
Wow. People still do flash mobs?
It's adobe behind it still pushing flash for iOS. ;-)
Quote:
Originally Posted by fredaroony
Classy like like drawing other mobile vendors into the iPhone 4's antenna issues...yeah, real classy.
You, sir, are *not nice*. Please find http://www.androidinsider.com please.
Quote:
Originally Posted by SolipsismX
... but Samsung doing well on stolen IP is no indication that Apple is faltering.
Quote:
Originally Posted by MHD
Spoken like a true fb.
Please explain.
He stated that Samsung is doing well. Not great. Well. In comparison to the competition that seems a fair judgement as their market share is growing and their profit share is second only to Apple although only a fraction of Apple profits.
Regarding the stolen IP, there are examples of authorities agreeing with said statement. In August 2011, the Landgericht court in Dusseldorf Germany granted Apple's request for an EU-wide preliminary injunction barring Samsung from selling its Galaxy Tab v10.1 device on the grounds Samsung's product infringed on two of Apple's interface patents. After Samsung's allegations of evidence tampering were heard, the court rescinded the EU-wide injunction and granted Apple a lesser injunction that only applied to the German market. There are a number of lawsuits, trade complaints, and countersuits and complaints based on patents and designs in the markets for smartphones, and devices based on smartphone OSes such as Android and iOS.
Apple does not appear to be faltering based on their recently released figures of quarterly revenue of $39.19 billion with a 94% rise in earnings to $11.6 billion or $12.30 per diluted share. Apple gross margin was 47.4 percent compared to 41.4 percent in the year-ago quarter. Furthermore, Apple sold 35.1 million iPhones in the quarter, representing 88 percent unit growth over the year-ago quarter. Apple sold 11.8 million iPads during the quarter, a 151 percent unit increase over the year-ago quarter. Additionally, Apple sold 4 million Macs during the quarter, a 7 percent unit increase over the year-ago quarter.
I fail to see the flaw in his statement.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Because there was no "issue" other than the ones inherent to all phones made by anyone. Don't start that crap again.
If there was never a problem with the antenna then Steve would never have said, "Just avoid holding it in that way."
Anybody that has an iphone 4 I suggest you go here and register for the iphone4 settlement.
This is nothing compared to the kind of stuff Samsung does in Korea. They have workers in semiconductor plant dying from lukemia and they complete deny that it's work related. They kidnap people when the workers try to form a union. They were named by Green peace as the third worst company in the world.
Quote:
Originally Posted by djkikrome
You, sir, are *not nice*. Please find http://www.androidinsider.com please.
Wow, you are very clever.
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikelee
This is nothing compared to the kind of stuff Samsung does in Korea. They have workers in semiconductor plant dying from lukemia and they complete deny that it's work related. They kidnap people when the workers try to form a union. They were named by Green peace as the third worst company in the world.
Apple had explosions at their ipad factories killing and injuring many. When a worker lost an iphone, security guards went to the employee's residence and roughed him up. The next day he committed suicide.
Greenpeace gave Apple low marks and criticized it for its reliance on coal-based power.
So Samsung is going after Apple users for being mindless conformists, yet they do it in a way that requires all participants to dress in identical clothing and chant in unison. Right.....
See I would appreciate this kind of activity if the protestors actually represented a homegrown, almost mom & pop company picketing the giant machine. It's kind of like whenever Walmart announces plans to build a new store somewhere in small town USA there are always protestors who are small business owners, and you feel for them because Walmart is guaranteed to wipe out their sales. But this is friggin' Samsung. This protest wasn't dreamt up as a means to save a near-bankrupt small local business. This is a bunch of out-of-touch Korean dudes in $4,000 suits sitting around a conference table looking for the fastest way to make a couple billion more bucks.
Samsung: We eat babies.
Uh... an Android owner?
It's not apple owned factory but foxconn factory. Apple doesn't directly run any factories.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russell
Apple had explosions at their ipad factories killing and injuring many. When a worker lost an iphone, security guards went to the employee's residence and roughed him up. The next day he committed suicide.
Greenpeace gave Apple low marks and criticized it for its reliance on coal-based power.
It's not apple owned factory but foxconn factory. Apple doesn't directly run any factories.
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikelee
It's not apple owned factory but foxconn factory. Apple doesn't directly run any factories.
Oh god, we all know apple doesn't own the factories, but they do control them. Apple has even pressured one vendor to stop building computers for a competitor.
Even Apple's own employees got the shaft from steve's "no-poach" agreements.
In China, Human Costs Are Built Into an iPad
Jan 26, 2012
Apple typically asks suppliers to specify how much every part costs, how many workers are needed and the size of their salaries. Executives want to know every financial detail. Afterward, Apple calculates how much it will pay for a part. Most suppliers are allowed only the slimmest of profits.
So suppliers often try to cut corners, replace expensive chemicals with less costly alternatives, or push their employees to work faster and longer, according to people at those companies.
“The only way you make money working for Apple is figuring out how to do things more efficiently or cheaper,” said an executive at one company that helped bring the iPad to market. “And then they’ll come back the next year, and force a 10 percent price cut.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/26/business/ieconomy-apples-ipad-and-the-human-costs-for-workers-in-china.html
Apple reportedly squeezes Pegatron into ceasing ASUS ultrabook production
Feb 13, 2012
Apple has reportedly moved to curb the production of new ‘ultrabook’ portable computers by Taiwanese technology giant ASUS, by forcing its manufacturing partner Pegatron to choose between production contracts for the two companies.
http://thenextweb.com/apple/2012/02/13/apple-reportedly-squeezes-pegatron-into-ceasing-asus-ultrabook-production/
No-poaching antitrust case against Apple, Google and others will go to trial
Apr 19, 2012
Apple, Google and five other technology companies must face anantitrust lawsuit for illegally agreeing to not poach each other’s employees.
http://news.yahoo.com/no-poaching-antitrust-case-against-apple-google-others-234525266.html
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russell
Oh god, we all know apple doesn't own the factories, but they do control them. Apple has even pressured one vendor to stop building computers for a competitor.
Even Apple's own employees got the shaft from steve's "no-poach" agreements.
In China, Human Costs Are Built Into an iPad
Jan 26, 2012
Apple typically asks suppliers to specify how much every part costs, how many workers are needed and the size of their salaries. Executives want to know every financial detail. Afterward, Apple calculates how much it will pay for a part. Most suppliers are allowed only the slimmest of profits.
So suppliers often try to cut corners, replace expensive chemicals with less costly alternatives, or push their employees to work faster and longer, according to people at those companies.
“The only way you make money working for Apple is figuring out how to do things more efficiently or cheaper,” said an executive at one company that helped bring the iPad to market. “And then they’ll come back the next year, and force a 10 percent price cut.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/26/business/ieconomy-apples-ipad-and-the-human-costs-for-workers-in-china.html
Apple reportedly squeezes Pegatron into ceasing ASUS ultrabook production
Feb 13, 2012
Apple has reportedly moved to curb the production of new ‘ultrabook’ portable computers by Taiwanese technology giant ASUS, by forcing its manufacturing partner Pegatron to choose between production contracts for the two companies.
http://thenextweb.com/apple/2012/02/13/apple-reportedly-squeezes-pegatron-into-ceasing-asus-ultrabook-production/
No-poaching antitrust case against Apple, Google and others will go to trial
Apr 19, 2012
Apple, Google and five other technology companies must face anantitrust lawsuit for illegally agreeing to not poach each other’s employees.
http://news.yahoo.com/no-poaching-antitrust-case-against-apple-google-others-234525266.html
That is nothing compared to what Samsung does in Korea. If any company does that kind of stuff in US, all the executives will be jail for life.
Apple never kidnapped anyone. The Samsung CEO's son evaded taxes when he inherited his father's wealth. Every one in Korea knows all this stuff.
The WHOLE thing seems fishy to me, even the VIDEO.
So this guy just happens to be testing out his microphone, manages to capture multiple panoramic viewing angles, goes home and edits the video with pretty tight cuts and posts it to YouTube???? I don't think so - this video has to be part of the campaign. Whatever ad agency is responsible knew full well that a video with a flash mob in front of an Apple store would be passed around all the tech and Apple rumor sites. And look - here we are, all discussing and learning about the release of a new Samsung phone which I personally didn't have a clue about before reading this thread.. Good or bad, I don't know, but it is pretty clever marketing.
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikelee
That is nothing compared to what Samsung does in Korea. If any company does that kind of stuff in US, all the executives will be jail for life.
Apple never kidnapped anyone. The Samsung CEO's son evaded taxes when he inherited his father's wealth. Every one in Korea knows all this stuff.
If it wasn't for our government and mainstream media to keep them in check, over zealous apple employees would come very close. Remember Cava22?
Do you know Apple has over $110 billion in cash in the bank? Out of that, over $64 billion dollars is in overseas accounts and they want to avoid paying taxes on it. They want to bring that money into the US to "...create jobs and infuse cash into our struggling economy.", but they are complaining that the tax rate is too high so they won't. They won't do it unless the government gives them, and other rich companies, a "Tax Holiday", a tax break. The last time there was a tax holiday, 2004, the people that benefitted from it were far from unemployed or struggling in the economy. The money was spent on dividends and stock repurchases. The very things apple said they are going to do this July.
Samsung's aim is to mimic Apple to the finest detail, implement their products with lower standards and then proclaim to the world that they are the next big thing and that customers are obviously either too stupid to realise it or oblivious to it.
Customers are a pretty discerning crowd, always trying to get the best quality for the lowest price. When Samsung sells a Galaxy Tab 10.1 for $50 more than an iPad 2, those discerning customers are not going to spend more money on a worse product.
The wake up call is for Apple's competition. For you to win, you don't need Apple to fail, you just need to do a better job. Good luck with that.
In general, I find chanting protests very awkward. You have to think after 20 seconds of saying the same thing, you're bound to feel a bit stupid because you've really made your point and beyond that you're just making a nuisance of yourself. It also makes them look lazy in that they haven't really thought out their message and how to follow through on it. Well, I'm sure they'll figure it out the long way.
Other possibilities: "Wake up" alludes to / echoes the theme song to an Inconvenient Truth -- suggesting an environmental organization is protesting Apple.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russell
Apple had explosions at their ipad factories killing and injuring many. When a worker lost an iphone, security guards went to the employee's residence and roughed him up. The next day he committed suicide.
Greenpeace gave Apple low marks and criticized it for its reliance on coal-based power.
TROLL ALERT! Everybody laugh at the troll. HAHA