I think of this is a 3gs equivalent. I think this is a dumbed down version of the current 13" with the new ivy bridge and most like likely replace the white plastic macbook dropped a few months back. I think Apple will reserve the Pro name for something more powerful.
I feel the next Pro line will all have quad cores and Retinas. I would like to see these new Pro's with all the past rumors listed in a 14" and 16" form factor (3612qm is a quad 35 watt fits perfect for the 14" and the 3720qm and 3820qm for the 16").
As a current 17" MBP user I would go for a 16" (no less) and the many people that have that i talk to that have a 13" would like more power but dont really want a 15". and the current 15" user can go lighter or more power.
This would be a wise move for apple as a Pro user is looking for power and a Student/ entry customer might care more about the legacy options (ODD and basic CPU) at a lower price point
I think they will keep the current unibody design as a a entry model with a sub $1000 price. even the current 15" Would be nice to have around for about $1299. Dumbed down of course.
Just look at how apple is keeping legacy product at lower price points. (ipad 2 at $399 and 3gs $0 and iphone 4 $99) and also notice how they dumbed down the iphone4 from 16Gb to 8gb to help reduce price.
I think this is the trend for apple to make it affordable help drive new consumers in.
Line up should be like this
MBA (Ultra-book)
11" 13"
--at current price $999-$1299--
Macbook (Student/Entry)
13" ... a 15" later on"?
--New price $999-$1299--
MBP (Professional Notebook)
14" 16"
--$1799-$2499--
All Quad, All Retina, (would like) All Dedicated GPU's
How can Apple discover a way to remove the Optical drive of the MacBook Pro 13 and keep the same weight and size? Only if they are using the extra space and weight loss to have more battery, but this is kind of different from all other upgrades that I've seen Apple doing on batteries. Usually they use smaller and more efficient batteries.
All other info seems plausible, but the weight not changing is the catch.
Firewire is still a valid option altho it is possible to get a converter from thunderbolt to firewire. But a lot of pople are using it for working with sound controllers and video capture cameras. Altho thunderbolt equipped devices make more sense. If they going to release this and there is not going to be an improvement in speed. I am going to have to get alienware m18x and hack mac osx on it.!
guess what stupid...firewire is faster than usb 3 too. firewire doesn't need host pc like usb so less overhead but more chipset is more expensive. it's very similar to the apple vs. pc model. apple hardware is better but more expensive.
btw, no one has mentioned that bluetooth 4 is also listed in specs. that would be new too.
"OS X" is due for 10.8, and we know 10.8 won’t be shipping in June… So this (alas?) may be consistent.
Did you bother to check Apple's website before saying that?
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Originally Posted by bwik
I had a Macbook Pro in 2007 that was just about as powerful. It was $3000 though.
Really? You think Conroe was anywhere near as powerful as Ivy Bridge is? Honestly?
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Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton
Good. The rumor mill has done its job of hurting Apple by repeating false promises.
I hate this so much.
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Originally Posted by bareimage
If they going to release this and there is not going to be an improvement in speed. I am going to have to get alienware m18x and hack mac osx on it.!
Well, you obviously know absolutely nothing about Ivy Bridge or any of the other components in this computer, so enjoy your buggy, crashing, laggy Hackintosh.
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Originally Posted by wigby
too bad there is no 802.11ac listed.
Do NOT insult other users of this forum. Please edit your post to remove it when you read this.
And 802.11n wasn't on the boxes of the first Macs that supported it… because the AirPort family to support it hadn't come out yet, and Apple activated them retroactively.
Yes Firewire. Really. Its much better at moving large files. MUCH BETTER. USB makes way too many requests during data transfer, which works for small files, but kills performance on large video files. Had to back up two drives, one Firewire 400 and one USB. USB took almost twice as long.
I hope they keep the optical drive. Not to use, necessarily, but because you can pull it out and add a second drive, such as an SSD or a large capacity drive. If they remove the optical drive, there will be no room to do this.
And don't give me this thunderbolt crap. I want a single piece of hardware, not a bunch of dongles hanging off cables.
I hope they keep the optical drive. Not to use, necessarily, but because you can pull it out and add a second drive, such as an SSD or a large capacity drive. If they remove the optical drive, there will be no room to do this.
And don't give me this thunderbolt crap. I want a single piece of hardware, not a bunch of dongles hanging off cables.
So you want them to keep it so that you don't use it at all and then have to have a dongle hanging off a cable to use. I see.
I have been motivating my 9 yr old twins to perform their onerous Kumon and deluge of work to get credits to purchase the mac 15 " air when released this summer. Hope we get it this time around around $1300-1500 each.
Will be a goldmine/seller I believe. I own around $1.2 million of Apple (stock and options) - the stock should start its run shortly - no way hedge funds are not all in by Tuesday apple release/conference in SF
<strong>humble brag!</strong>. so you signed up to say that you own 1.4 million... and your kids need help in the form of "kumon"?...
Firewire port: for people with PowerMac G4/G5 era equipment and hardware from Apple and third parties like LaCie.
No one makes Firewire devices any more. They should replace the Firewire 800 jack with an additional USB port and allow third party companies to make a thunderbolt-connected hub with Firewire ports (heck, even throw in a Firewire 400 port in the hub for the real technical dinosaur equipment).
People said exactly the same before the last refresh. The argument last time was the resolution might be lower but it's better quality in the Pro.
No way will onboard Intel graphics drive a 13" retina display anyway.
Ummmm... You havent read the specs for the HD4000 have you? The HD 4000 is capable of driving 4k (3840x2160), which is way more than what is needed for a retina display on any of Apple's current laptops
These half expected and half disappointing specs historically mean that it is legit. Those that try to pull a fast on over on the Internet tend to up all the specs to levels that are so good that we want to believe them. Giving "meh" specs goes against their entire reasoning for creating the fake.
This is not a flagship machine. This may not even be a MacBook Pro or one that you can buy outside the education market.
Well, I had a 2.33ghz core duo macbook pro in early 2007. It had 3GB of RAM and eventually a 500GB hard drive so yeah, I'd say that was comparable. Not as good as this new product, but not like a very meaningful leap, either.
The main advance appears to be unibody structure, IMO. Now that was a giant leap.
The specs are better than those of the current 13". You were saying?
I don't think this is legit either, but come on.
The same thing I thought of the current 13" as well. I bought my wife an HP laptop for $999 a year and a half ago that has better specs than that.
I have been holding off on upgrading my 2009 17" MacBook Pro waiting for a more significant upgrade. I am curious to see the other models, but this supposed leak is not encouraging.
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I think of this is a 3gs equivalent. I think this is a dumbed down version of the current 13" with the new ivy bridge and most like likely replace the white plastic macbook dropped a few months back. I think Apple will reserve the Pro name for something more powerful.
I feel the next Pro line will all have quad cores and Retinas. I would like to see these new Pro's with all the past rumors listed in a 14" and 16" form factor (3612qm is a quad 35 watt fits perfect for the 14" and the 3720qm and 3820qm for the 16").
As a current 17" MBP user I would go for a 16" (no less) and the many people that have that i talk to that have a 13" would like more power but dont really want a 15". and the current 15" user can go lighter or more power.
This would be a wise move for apple as a Pro user is looking for power and a Student/ entry customer might care more about the legacy options (ODD and basic CPU) at a lower price point
I think they will keep the current unibody design as a a entry model with a sub $1000 price. even the current 15" Would be nice to have around for about $1299. Dumbed down of course.
Just look at how apple is keeping legacy product at lower price points. (ipad 2 at $399 and 3gs $0 and iphone 4 $99) and also notice how they dumbed down the iphone4 from 16Gb to 8gb to help reduce price.
I think this is the trend for apple to make it affordable help drive new consumers in.
Line up should be like this
MBA (Ultra-book)
11" 13"
--at current price $999-$1299--
Macbook (Student/Entry)
13" ... a 15" later on"?
--New price $999-$1299--
MBP (Professional Notebook)
14" 16"
--$1799-$2499--
All Quad, All Retina, (would like) All Dedicated GPU's
How can Apple discover a way to remove the Optical drive of the MacBook Pro 13 and keep the same weight and size? Only if they are using the extra space and weight loss to have more battery, but this is kind of different from all other upgrades that I've seen Apple doing on batteries. Usually they use smaller and more efficient batteries.
All other info seems plausible, but the weight not changing is the catch.
Firewire is still a valid option altho it is possible to get a converter from thunderbolt to firewire. But a lot of pople are using it for working with sound controllers and video capture cameras. Altho thunderbolt equipped devices make more sense. If they going to release this and there is not going to be an improvement in speed. I am going to have to get alienware m18x and hack mac osx on it.!
guess what stupid...firewire is faster than usb 3 too. firewire doesn't need host pc like usb so less overhead but more chipset is more expensive. it's very similar to the apple vs. pc model. apple hardware is better but more expensive.
btw, no one has mentioned that bluetooth 4 is also listed in specs. that would be new too.
too bad there is no 802.11ac listed.
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Originally Posted by EauVive
"OS X" is due for 10.8, and we know 10.8 won’t be shipping in June… So this (alas?) may be consistent.
Did you bother to check Apple's website before saying that?
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Originally Posted by bwik
I had a Macbook Pro in 2007 that was just about as powerful. It was $3000 though.
Really? You think Conroe was anywhere near as powerful as Ivy Bridge is? Honestly?
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Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton
Good. The rumor mill has done its job of hurting Apple by repeating false promises.
I hate this so much.
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Originally Posted by bareimage
If they going to release this and there is not going to be an improvement in speed. I am going to have to get alienware m18x and hack mac osx on it.!
Well, you obviously know absolutely nothing about Ivy Bridge or any of the other components in this computer, so enjoy your buggy, crashing, laggy Hackintosh.
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Originally Posted by wigby
too bad there is no 802.11ac listed.
Do NOT insult other users of this forum. Please edit your post to remove it when you read this.
And 802.11n wasn't on the boxes of the first Macs that supported it… because the AirPort family to support it hadn't come out yet, and Apple activated them retroactively.
"FireWire? Really? Lol ok"
Yes Firewire. Really. Its much better at moving large files. MUCH BETTER. USB makes way too many requests during data transfer, which works for small files, but kills performance on large video files. Had to back up two drives, one Firewire 400 and one USB. USB took almost twice as long.
Just a thought,
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Originally Posted by eksodos
No way will onboard Intel graphics drive a 13" retina display anyway.
It can handle a 4K video stream and 4K is higher resolution than a 13" Retina display.
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Originally Posted by storie
BTW this is my first comment ever, how exciting. Lol.
Your first comment was definitely more exciting than this guys:
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Originally Posted by palisadesapples
I own around $1.2 million of Apple (stock and options)
Superdrive? 5400K RPM hard drive?
Booooo.
Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
I sure hope this is a fake.
I hope they keep the optical drive. Not to use, necessarily, but because you can pull it out and add a second drive, such as an SSD or a large capacity drive. If they remove the optical drive, there will be no room to do this.
And don't give me this thunderbolt crap. I want a single piece of hardware, not a bunch of dongles hanging off cables.
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Originally Posted by Conrail
I hope they keep the optical drive. Not to use, necessarily, but because you can pull it out and add a second drive, such as an SSD or a large capacity drive. If they remove the optical drive, there will be no room to do this.
And don't give me this thunderbolt crap. I want a single piece of hardware, not a bunch of dongles hanging off cables.
So you want them to keep it so that you don't use it at all and then have to have a dongle hanging off a cable to use. I see.
<strong>humble brag!</strong>. so you signed up to say that you own 1.4 million... and your kids need help in the form of "kumon"?...
Firewire port: for people with PowerMac G4/G5 era equipment and hardware from Apple and third parties like LaCie.
No one makes Firewire devices any more. They should replace the Firewire 800 jack with an additional USB port and allow third party companies to make a thunderbolt-connected hub with Firewire ports (heck, even throw in a Firewire 400 port in the hub for the real technical dinosaur equipment).
Come on, Apple, move on to USB 3.0.
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Originally Posted by eksodos
People said exactly the same before the last refresh. The argument last time was the resolution might be lower but it's better quality in the Pro.
No way will onboard Intel graphics drive a 13" retina display anyway.
Ummmm... You havent read the specs for the HD4000 have you? The HD 4000 is capable of driving 4k (3840x2160), which is way more than what is needed for a retina display on any of Apple's current laptops
These half expected and half disappointing specs historically mean that it is legit. Those that try to pull a fast on over on the Internet tend to up all the specs to levels that are so good that we want to believe them. Giving "meh" specs goes against their entire reasoning for creating the fake.
This is not a flagship machine. This may not even be a MacBook Pro or one that you can buy outside the education market.
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Originally Posted by vandil
Come on, Apple, move on to USB 3.0.
FireWire 800 is often faster than USB 3.
I am seriously hoping this is fake. These specs are terrible, let alone even calling this atrocious thing a "Mac Book Pro".
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Originally Posted by Negafox
I am seriously hoping this is fake. These specs are terrible, let alone even calling this atrocious thing a "Mac Book Pro".
The specs are better than those of the current 13". You were saying?
I don't think this is legit either, but come on.
Well, I had a 2.33ghz core duo macbook pro in early 2007. It had 3GB of RAM and eventually a 500GB hard drive so yeah, I'd say that was comparable. Not as good as this new product, but not like a very meaningful leap, either.
The main advance appears to be unibody structure, IMO. Now that was a giant leap.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
The specs are better than those of the current 13". You were saying?
I don't think this is legit either, but come on.
The same thing I thought of the current 13" as well. I bought my wife an HP laptop for $999 a year and a half ago that has better specs than that.
I have been holding off on upgrading my 2009 17" MacBook Pro waiting for a more significant upgrade. I am curious to see the other models, but this supposed leak is not encouraging.