Why do people call this "mirroring" when it doesn't reverse right and left like a mirror? Makes no sense to me.
Apple is usually better with its terminology ("logic board" instead of "mommy board," and "restart" instead of "put on new boots.") In fact, I had to switch to the Mac because Windows made me put new boots on the computer so often that I got in trouble for impersonating a shoe salesman.
Maybe geeks never look in mirrors and don't know from personal experience how they work. Come to think of it, from the way some geeks look, that might be true.
Perhaps you weren't aware, but the word mirror is both a noun and verb. As a noun one could say, "he broke the mirror." You could also use mirror as a noun by saying something like, " the boy's allegiance to the king was a mirror of the boy's father." As a verb one could say, "the politician's views mirrored those of his supporters." A synonym for mirror either as a noun or verb could be the word copy.
So the term mirroring seems correct when used to replace copy.
Thank goodness someone got this right. I read through the entire thread thinking how absolutely sideways the discussion of the word "mirror" had gone!
Originally Posted by TBell
Perhaps you weren't aware, but the word mirror is both a noun and verb. As a noun one could say, "he broke the mirror." You could also use mirror as a noun by saying something like, " the boy's allegiance to the king was a mirror of the boy's father." As a verb one could say, "the politician's views mirrored those of his supporters." A synonym for mirror either as a noun or verb could be the word copy.
So the term mirroring seems correct when used to replace copy.
That limitation is nonsense... you can just get a wireless HD usb Kit - we have 2 at the office (wireless to 40inch samsung HDTV) and it works on everything above a c2D 2.4 in our experience. And it was 100 dollars from our Tech advisors.
Can you give a reference brand/model or URL or something? I spent quite a bit of time trying to push my MBP C2D display to a large-screen display via a variety of cables and such, but ultimately gave up. The big-screen does not have HDMI, but it does have component, and I don't really care if I'm pushing out less than HD quality, I just want to be able to play video content from my laptop to the TV. It's primarily a digital->analog issue, but I never found a reasonably cheap/easy solution. Like something I could pick up at Fry's.
When you walk in to Apple store each item there is the LATEST, BEST, most REVOLUTIONARY EVER, two years later you are told by the same company - it is an old crap that not even screen mirroring will work on that!
For those of you who want to screen mirror the "ancient" MacBook Pro 2010 download "AirParrot" software (demo, full version for $10 or torrent) and VLT player - Free.
And guess what? It works 100% even on the old Macbook Pro.
Yeah, this could take… some time. Does anyone know why Spotlight refuses to actually search by file types? Spotlight never has liked searching in the System folder at all…
Can you give a reference brand/model or URL or something? I spent quite a bit of time trying to push my MBP C2D display to a large-screen display via a variety of cables and such, but ultimately gave up. The big-screen does not have HDMI, but it does have component, and I don't really care if I'm pushing out less than HD quality, I just want to be able to play video content from my laptop to the TV. It's primarily a digital->analog issue, but I never found a reasonably cheap/easy solution. Like something I could pick up at Fry's.
Monoprice will likely be your best bet...
Get a inexpensive mini display portl cable and then use this hdmi to component adapter...
Perhaps not "easy", but Rogue Amoeba's AirFoil and AirFoil Speakers tools have been offering audio streaming from any app to AirTunes/AirPlay compatible devices - including other Macs, Windows machines and iOS devices - for years. I hope this isn't considered Mt Lion's "killer" feature.
Yeah but Rogue Amoeba's ain't very stable and not compatible with Airport Express. We have to use their apps which is limited at times.
Screw you Apple!
When you walk in to Apple store each item there is the LATEST, BEST, most REVOLUTIONARY EVER, two years later you are told by the same company - it is an old crap that not even screen mirroring will work on that!
For those of you who want to screen mirror the "ancient" MacBook Pro 2010 download "AirParrot" software (demo, full version for $10 or torrent) and VLT player - Free.
And guess what? It works 100% even on the old Macbook Pro.
For those of you who want to screen mirror the "ancient" MacBook Pro 2010 download "AirParrot" software (demo, full version for $10 or torrent) and VLT player - free
Q: When I use AirParrot I notice high CPU Usage/Excess Heat/Running Fans.
A: Live video encoding is a hardware intensive task. On older machines this may push the hardware enough to kick on the fans. Try using a lower resolution, or change to the 1280x720 or 1920x1080 resolution to drastically reduce the CPU load on AirParrot.
This provides some support for Apple's stance that Airplay mirroring would push the hardware too hard on older Macs. It's also possible that Apple could add support for older Macs at some point in the future, just as they added support for the Lion recovery partition to older Macs after Lion was released.
This provides some support for Apple's stance that Airplay mirroring would push the hardware too hard on older Macs. It's also possible that Apple could add support for older Macs at some point in the future, just as they added support for the Lion recovery partition to older Macs after Lion was released.
If a first-gen iPad can do it, I would think the entirety of Mountain Lion-capable Macs will have no trouble whatsoever, particularly since they can all drive at least one external display connected via wire. I would imagine any third-party software's troubles stem from it being third-party software.
This was one of the features that I was really looking forward to, because Apple has not bothered to release an app store for the Apple TV we are currently stuck with either Netflix or iTunes movies.
With this feature I can load up BBC iPlayer on my iMac and hey presto it's there...... or at least it would be there except Apple seems to think that my Mid 2010 Quad Core i5 iMac with 16GB of ram and and 1GB Video card cannot handle it!
No it's not going to make me leave Apple, but they certainly have a very upset and annoyed customer here.
Recently Apple has become far too greedy and it is going to bite them in the ass in the long run.
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Blind yourself and crash?
I love talk of tachyons, but did you mean it for a different thread?
Soli and Eluard were going off a bit so thought I'd nudge it a bit to to help derail it.
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Originally Posted by Panu
Why do people call this "mirroring" when it doesn't reverse right and left like a mirror? Makes no sense to me.
Apple is usually better with its terminology ("logic board" instead of "mommy board," and "restart" instead of "put on new boots.") In fact, I had to switch to the Mac because Windows made me put new boots on the computer so often that I got in trouble for impersonating a shoe salesman.
Maybe geeks never look in mirrors and don't know from personal experience how they work. Come to think of it, from the way some geeks look, that might be true.
Perhaps you weren't aware, but the word mirror is both a noun and verb. As a noun one could say, "he broke the mirror." You could also use mirror as a noun by saying something like, " the boy's allegiance to the king was a mirror of the boy's father." As a verb one could say, "the politician's views mirrored those of his supporters." A synonym for mirror either as a noun or verb could be the word copy.
So the term mirroring seems correct when used to replace copy.
Thank goodness someone got this right. I read through the entire thread thinking how absolutely sideways the discussion of the word "mirror" had gone!
Originally Posted by TBell
Perhaps you weren't aware, but the word mirror is both a noun and verb. As a noun one could say, "he broke the mirror." You could also use mirror as a noun by saying something like, " the boy's allegiance to the king was a mirror of the boy's father." As a verb one could say, "the politician's views mirrored those of his supporters." A synonym for mirror either as a noun or verb could be the word copy.
So the term mirroring seems correct when used to replace copy.
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Originally Posted by agramonte
That limitation is nonsense... you can just get a wireless HD usb Kit - we have 2 at the office (wireless to 40inch samsung HDTV) and it works on everything above a c2D 2.4 in our experience. And it was 100 dollars from our Tech advisors.
Can you give a reference brand/model or URL or something? I spent quite a bit of time trying to push my MBP C2D display to a large-screen display via a variety of cables and such, but ultimately gave up. The big-screen does not have HDMI, but it does have component, and I don't really care if I'm pushing out less than HD quality, I just want to be able to play video content from my laptop to the TV. It's primarily a digital->analog issue, but I never found a reasonably cheap/easy solution. Like something I could pick up at Fry's.
Screw you Apple!
When you walk in to Apple store each item there is the LATEST, BEST, most REVOLUTIONARY EVER, two years later you are told by the same company - it is an old crap that not even screen mirroring will work on that!
For those of you who want to screen mirror the "ancient" MacBook Pro 2010 download "AirParrot" software (demo, full version for $10 or torrent) and VLT player - Free.
And guess what? It works 100% even on the old Macbook Pro.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Yeah, this could take… some time. Does anyone know why Spotlight refuses to actually search by file types?
Don't search for kind:kext, search for name:kext.
Cannot understand how an ipod touch can pull off airplay mirroring and yet a laptop with core i7 2.66 doesn't have the power to do it...
So will Apple disable airplay mirroring / streaming if your laptop doesn't meet the requirements?
Monoprice will likely be your best bet...
Get a inexpensive mini display portl cable and then use this hdmi to component adapter...
Total cost should be under 50 bucks...
Link: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=101&cp_id=10114&cs_id=1011410&p_id=8125&seq=1&format=2
Link: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10428&cs_id=1042802&p_id=5311&seq=1&format=2
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Originally Posted by audioinside
Perhaps not "easy", but Rogue Amoeba's AirFoil and AirFoil Speakers tools have been offering audio streaming from any app to AirTunes/AirPlay compatible devices - including other Macs, Windows machines and iOS devices - for years. I hope this isn't considered Mt Lion's "killer" feature.
Yeah but Rogue Amoeba's ain't very stable and not compatible with Airport Express. We have to use their apps which is limited at times.
Thank u for this. Tire of the same old crApple.
Wow! A great article by DED!
It is refreshing to read such a well-researched and well-written article!
From the Air Parrot FAQ:
Q: When I use AirParrot I notice high CPU Usage/Excess Heat/Running Fans.
A: Live video encoding is a hardware intensive task. On older machines this may push the hardware enough to kick on the fans. Try using a lower resolution, or change to the 1280x720 or 1920x1080 resolution to drastically reduce the CPU load on AirParrot.
This provides some support for Apple's stance that Airplay mirroring would push the hardware too hard on older Macs. It's also possible that Apple could add support for older Macs at some point in the future, just as they added support for the Lion recovery partition to older Macs after Lion was released.
If a first-gen iPad can do it, I would think the entirety of Mountain Lion-capable Macs will have no trouble whatsoever, particularly since they can all drive at least one external display connected via wire. I would imagine any third-party software's troubles stem from it being third-party software.
This was one of the features that I was really looking forward to, because Apple has not bothered to release an app store for the Apple TV we are currently stuck with either Netflix or iTunes movies.
With this feature I can load up BBC iPlayer on my iMac and hey presto it's there...... or at least it would be there except Apple seems to think that my Mid 2010 Quad Core i5 iMac with 16GB of ram and and 1GB Video card cannot handle it!
No it's not going to make me leave Apple, but they certainly have a very upset and annoyed customer here.
Recently Apple has become far too greedy and it is going to bite them in the ass in the long run.
Maybe because they realize it's a dumb idea.
Sure they have. I'm pretty sure Apple has a grander plan in store here.