Not much. Somewhat shorter, but still a level of detail that I would expect to confuse the jury.
Completely agree. If the jury comes back with a verdict on all counts, much less a sensical one, I'll be quite surprised. I'm expecting a deadlock on at least some counts. IMO Apple threw way too many devices into this particular trial, and wanted to add even more at the last minute. If there's confusion they also have themselves to blame.
Completely agree. If the jury comes back with a verdict on all counts, much less a sensical one, I'll be quite surprised. I'm expecting a deadlock on at least some counts. IMO Apple threw way too many devices into this particular trial, and wanted to add even more at the last minute. If there's confusion they also have themselves to blame.
I expect they will reach a verdict, because at some point, at some level, the jurors will say (probably not to each other and not necessarily admit it to themselves) "screw it, it comes down to a Korean company versus a local success story, let's just give the benefit of the doubt to the Americans." It's no coincidence that the Apple mentioned that no officers from Samsung could be "bothered" to "come to America" to testify. In other words, "those foreigners don't even respect you good, honest American jurors enough to come talk to you."
That's not the way the system is supposed to operate, but I hope it pays off for Apple. They deserve to win, so I really don't care what logic (or lack thereof) the jurors use to justify their decision.
Not much. Somewhat shorter, but still a level of detail that I would expect to confuse the jury.
Completely agree. If the jury comes back with a verdict on all counts, much less a sensical one, I'll be quite surprised. I'm expecting a deadlock on at least some counts. IMO Apple threw way too many devices into this particular trial, and wanted to add even more at the last minute. If there's confusion they also have themselves to blame.
So I'm still unclear what happens if they do not agree on all questions.
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Originally Posted by muppetry This does look rather like Samsung's final effort to tie the entire trial in knots.
This is Apple's suggested jury ballot. Any better?
http://www.scribd.com/doc/103344112/Apple-s-Proposed-Verdict-Form
Not much. Somewhat shorter, but still a level of detail that I would expect to confuse the jury.
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Originally Posted by muppetry
Not much. Somewhat shorter, but still a level of detail that I would expect to confuse the jury.
Completely agree. If the jury comes back with a verdict on all counts, much less a sensical one, I'll be quite surprised. I'm expecting a deadlock on at least some counts. IMO Apple threw way too many devices into this particular trial, and wanted to add even more at the last minute. If there's confusion they also have themselves to blame.
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Originally Posted by Gatorguy
Completely agree. If the jury comes back with a verdict on all counts, much less a sensical one, I'll be quite surprised. I'm expecting a deadlock on at least some counts. IMO Apple threw way too many devices into this particular trial, and wanted to add even more at the last minute. If there's confusion they also have themselves to blame.
I expect they will reach a verdict, because at some point, at some level, the jurors will say (probably not to each other and not necessarily admit it to themselves) "screw it, it comes down to a Korean company versus a local success story, let's just give the benefit of the doubt to the Americans." It's no coincidence that the Apple mentioned that no officers from Samsung could be "bothered" to "come to America" to testify. In other words, "those foreigners don't even respect you good, honest American jurors enough to come talk to you."
That's not the way the system is supposed to operate, but I hope it pays off for Apple. They deserve to win, so I really don't care what logic (or lack thereof) the jurors use to justify their decision.
Originally Posted by malax
My first reaction would be "WTF didn't you give us this before the testimony started so we'd have a prayer of paying attention to the right stuff?"
… Why not pay attention to all of it? It's your job, after all.
So I'm still unclear what happens if they do not agree on all questions.