Samsung executive says company has no plans to settle with Apple

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  • Reply 61 of 83
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    jeffdm wrote: »
    That's a good question. There were several large-scale OLED sets displayed at a show this summer, I think, but I don't know if they ever shipped. For a long time, it looked as if the technology couldn't scale up in panel size at a realistic price.

    They were shown at the CES in January and were slated to be on sale around this time yet I haven't heard anymore about it. I really wish CE companies would follow Apple's lead when it comes to announcing products.
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  • Reply 62 of 83
    kr00kr00 Posts: 99member
    So samscum is happy to "pay" judges and politicians for their favour, but won't even negotiate on licensing legal patents? So now we know what you are, we're just haggling on a price. Scum corporation with mafia style tactics, bribing their way past laws and threatening business partners who supply their rivals. Stealing licensed IP is just water off a ducks back. Here's a good read.
    http://www.kernelmag.com/features/report/3028/samsung-power-corruption-and-lies/
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  • Reply 63 of 83
    kr00kr00 Posts: 99member
    herbapou wrote: »
    Actually, the only place Apple won in the world is in the US. They are losing everywhere else. And Samsung no longer needs Apple on its supply chain, its selling more phones than Apple with very good margins.   Its in fact in there best interest to cause them trouble on there supply chain.

    Apple should have move aways from Samsung when it started sueing them.  Pretty stupid from Apple imo.

    So samscum are happy to lose $4 billion of Apple money? Yeah, smart business practice considering they would be buying their own chips to build their phones. What a stupid comment. You really need to learn about this evil power and then consider if you believe in their business practices.

    http://www.kernelmag.com/features/report/3028/samsung-power-corruption-and-lies/
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  • Reply 64 of 83
    kr00kr00 Posts: 99member
    nathillien wrote: »


    I used to don't mind/care about Apple - now I openly hate it.

    I used to don't mind/care about Samsung - now I openly support it.

    So you openly support THIS [URL]http://comhttp://www.kernelmag.com/features/report/3028/samsung-power-corruption-and-lies/ company? You really need to understand more about the people you support.
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  • Reply 65 of 83
    gtrgtr Posts: 3,231member
    Marvin wrote: »
    I don't know why there is such a strong belief that Apple is an arrogant company and why there is such a refusal to acknowledge that they earned their success.

    Jobs embraced the concept that simplicity is the ultimate sophistication, and Apple products do too.

    Apple makes decisions on behalf of consumers to only allow things to be done a certain way based on this concept (e.g. we're removing floppy drives, we 're removing FLASH, we're removing optical drives, we're not giving you any widgets to customise) and many people (I'd go as far as to say 50-60% of the population) have a problem with getting told what to do.

    Put it down to bad parenting issues.

    ;-)
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  • Reply 66 of 83


    Don't get your panties in a knot..... 


     


    The comments here range from economic sanctions on S Korea to USA troop pull out and war with the North.. Man are you guys pathetic!


     


    All this on supposed coping of the look of a phone and rubber banding. News flash dimbwits there is more to a phone than the packaging and that is why Samsung is doing well.


     


    The way people carry on here its as if Samsung shagged your mum and did not call her the next day.

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  • Reply 67 of 83
    gtrgtr Posts: 3,231member
    petrosy wrote: »
    Don't get your panties in a knot..... 

    The comments here range from economic sanctions on S Korea to USA troop pull out and war with the North.. Man are you guys pathetic!

    All this on supposed coping of the look of a phone and rubber banding. News flash dimbwits there is more to a phone than the packaging and that is why Samsung is doing well.

    The way people carry on here its as if Samsung shagged your mum and did not call her the next day.

    News flash.

    It's spelt "dimwit".

    When insulting others, try not to include yourself.
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  • Reply 68 of 83
    Marvinmarvin Posts: 15,553moderator
    There's an interesting article here about Sony's potential (long-term) demise and Samsung's role in it:

    http://kotaku.com/5960411/how-sony-is-turning-into-a-ghost-in-japan-and-around-the-world

    "I came to Japan to talk to Mr. Idei about our growing concerns with Sony's direction. We had dinner together. I wanted to talk about profit margins; he wanted to talk about the wine we were having. He struck me as a clueless."

    When the investor pointed out that Sony's operating profits on electronic products were roughly 2-4 percent and that Samsung was making similar products at a 30 percent profit margin, Idei hushed him by reportedly saying, "They make the parts for our products. We put them together. It's the difference between a steel maker and an automobile maker. We make the automobiles."

    The investor apparently countered, "Well, I've got news for you-the people you laid off from the car plant are now working at the steel mill, and soon the steel mills will be building cars with your technology."

    It's a dangerous setup to directly compete with your supplier but Samsung is obviously a high quality supplier. Their strategy seems to be to undermine rival giants like Sony and Apple by learning what goes into their products, use that in their own products and compete with them. They need them to stay around though because otherwise, they have no direction to take their products.

    It appears Apple is the brand that is replacing Sony in mindshare. Their string of successes have ensured that most of Sony's achievements have been made irrelevant and lower priced manufacturers like Samsung and LG are absorbing the rest.

    I would love to see Apple and parts of Sony together. Imagine Playstation being an iOS component taking on the XBox Surface publishing AAA games. Sony Pictures putting exclusive first-run streaming movies to Apple TV. Having a digital premiere pay-per-view streaming service would finally wrest control over films away from the Cinema chains. 400 million customers, $5 per premiere could easily create the first opening night $1b movie premiere.

    I think the more that hardware is becoming irrelevant (like in the TV industry), content distribution needs to be invested in to hold back the likes of Samsung. No point in buying a Galaxy Tab or any Android devices if you can't get certain AAA game franchises.
    gtr wrote:
    Apple makes decisions on behalf of consumers to only allow things to be done a certain way based on this concept (e.g. we're removing floppy drives, we 're removing FLASH, we're removing optical drives, we're not giving you any widgets to customise) and many people (I'd go as far as to say 50-60% of the population) have a problem with getting told what to do.

    Put it down to bad parenting issues.

    And yet you think they'd have learned everybody ends up going that way eventually. Even a former Sony exec in the above link says about Blu-Ray:

    "Sony has a great love for proprietary technology that isn't shared in common with other electronic makers. Because it seeks to impose it's standard as the industry standard, it often forces itself out of the market. They succeeded with Blu-Ray but digital downloading makes that a hollow victory. Who wants to buy a Blu-Ray when you can download a digital HD copy of your favorite movie from i-Tunes as soon as you want to see it?"

    Look at the direction everyone has gone with keyboard-less phones, restricted App Stores, tablets and so on and yet the complaints still come.
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  • Reply 69 of 83
    cmvsmcmvsm Posts: 204member

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    Originally Posted by herbapou View Post


    Actually, the only place Apple won in the world is in the US. They are losing everywhere else. And Samsung no longer needs Apple on its supply chain, its selling more phones than Apple with very good margins.   Its in fact in there best interest to cause them trouble on there supply chain.


     


    Apple should have move aways from Samsung when it started sueing them.  Pretty stupid from Apple imo.





    "Samsung no longer needs Apple on its supply chain".  Yeah, $4 billion in annual revenue or 9% of their annual sales can easily be replaced. That statement alone sums up your entire business acumen. Lots of Samsung employees will be looking work. Maybe you are one of them?

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  • Reply 70 of 83

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    Samsung's entire business is built on copying. They're known as a 'fast copier' in the electronics industry. They've never invented anything. Calling them technology thieves would be putting it mildly.

    Of course they don't want to settle with Apple. That would be admitting to what they do for a living. They're simply in denial of the facts and they've hired high-priced flim-flam lawyers in hopes of confusing judges and juries worldwide.


     


    You boy are the one who is confused.

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  • Reply 71 of 83

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    Well, obviously since you are from South Korea.





    LOL. No, I'm not from South Korea image.

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  • Reply 72 of 83

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    And you're here... why? I don't see any reason to believe that you're here for anything other than to defend Samsung and maybe causing trouble is a bonus. In short, I don't think your statement is fully true, I think you've been pro-Samsung all along, and anti-Apple once their interests diverged. And you're visiting a pro-Apple site with likely questionable motivations.


     


    Balance, my young padawan, Balance.

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  • Reply 73 of 83
    gtrgtr Posts: 3,231member

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    Balance, my young padawan, Balance.



     


    So you're trying to balance the lack of attention that your parents gave you while you were growing up with the attention that you garner now?


     


    Very clever and utterly original.


     


    Do you know why I'm not across at the Android forums right now professing my love for Apple?


     


    Breast-fed milk.

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  • Reply 74 of 83

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    Originally Posted by Nathillien View Post


     


    Balance, my young padawan, Balance.



     


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    Originally Posted by GTR View Post


     


    So you're trying to balance the lack of attention that your parents gave you while you were growing up with the attention that you garner now?


     


    Very clever and utterly original.


     


    Do you know why I'm not across at the Android forums right now professing my love for Apple?


     


    Breast-fed milk.





    I will leave it at that because I have no intention to lower myself into your trash talk.

     

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  • Reply 75 of 83

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    If the US was not there, the South would have been overrun long ago; it has no where near enough firepower to defend itself.



     


    If it hadn't been for the US, the country would have been unified back in the 50's. 

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  • Reply 76 of 83

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    Well, obviously since you are from South Korea.  Samsung is loser company.  They've been nailed more than once for price fixing, and now copying.


     


    I notice that Samsung likes to copy other appliance mfg.  Well, I for one, won't buy a Samsung branded product.


     


    I like buying computer related products from a company that's a long time computer maker rather than buying computing products from a company that known for making TVs, dishwashers, washer/dryiers, and vacuum cleaners.


     


    I guess i like a company that actually designs and develops their technology, especially the OS.  Samsung to me is just another clone maker with just frivolous features that aren't always must have features.


     


    Oh, BTW, it's too bad South Korean companies don't have respect for US based companies, especially since South Korea wouldn't still be South Korea without the US helping them in the ongoing war with North Korea and how the US helped rebuild South Korea after the Korean war.  Yeah, REAL classy.


     


    As far as I'm concerned, maybe the US military should step away from helping South Korea and let them get taken over the the North Koreans.  See how that would feel.



     


    and now the one of the largest electronic companies in the world. 


     


    No, Samsung is many years ahead when it comes to manufacturing anything. 


     


    Samsung has been making IT components for almost three decades nows.


     


    Well, let's see Mac OS X is largely based on BSD + Mach Kernel.  So you like Microsoft?


     


    The Korean peninsula would have been unified under Kim Il Song if it hadn't been for the US.  Furthermore, the US didn't rebuilt the country - and most US historians / development economists would be quite hesitant in taking credit for the country's economic *miracle*.  The South's industrial strength and economy was largely behind the North until 1980s.  It wasn't until the South sent 300+K of their soldiers to help the US in Vietnam that changed the country's economic economic development projection. 

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  • Reply 77 of 83


    Originally Posted by tooltalk View Post


    The Korean peninsula would have been unified under Kim Il Song if it hadn't been for the US.



     


    And Samsung would have never existed!


     


    Huh. First time I've ever wished for a POD where communists won…

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  • Reply 78 of 83

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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


     


    And Samsung would have never existed!


     


    Huh. First time I've ever wished for a POD where communists won…



     


    Without Samsung, there might have not been Apple's first iPhone. 

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  • Reply 79 of 83
    gtrgtr Posts: 3,231member
    tooltalk wrote: »
    Without Samsung, there might have not been Apple's first iPhone. 

    This ridiculous comment was enough for me to unsubscribe from this thread.

    TS, when will stupidity become a bannable offence on this forum?
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  • Reply 80 of 83
    jeffdmjeffdm Posts: 12,953member
    tooltalk wrote: »
    Without Samsung, there might have not been Apple's first iPhone. 

    Do tell. What component did Samsung make that wasn't available elsewhere?
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