Thanks for the help guys. I really appreciate it. The motherboard et al are fine. It was the Power supply ? it was set not on 220, nor on 110...more like something in between. So I got it on 110 without the RAM or video card installed. I get a satisfying beep and a C1 POST code which means it needed some RAM.
Yay! I think. So I put in my RAM, and try it again. "That's funny" I say, why is it giving me this damn FFh POST code again? Oh well, I think, and I put in the video card now.
I boot it up. Same damn FFh POST code. I wait for something to come onto the monitor anyway, when something seems funny. "What the hell is that weird smell?" says I. My heart skips a beat. I sniff the PSU. "Nope, not there" I think. I sniff my HSF. "Hmm, that does indeed smell weird. Maybe because it's the first time the CPU is doing something." And doing something it indeed was. I touch the HS. Feels a little warm, especially considering it's not even putting anything on the screen.
"Oh no!" says I. I shut everything down and hastily unscrew the HSF. There's a miniscule black mark on the die and where it touches the HSF. Yep, that's right, I just fried my beautiful $117 Athlon XP1700+ into a useless piece of silicon that is now bound to become nothing more in life than a keychain.
Well, I don't really have any more questions...I know exactly what has been happening. Now I'm certainly enlightened as to why so many people are lobbying for a thermal protector on the Thuroughbred.
Yeah I'm an idiot. I guess I got so nervous that I might crack the core that I didn't screw my PAL8045 in hard enough. This time I'm gonna buy the cheapest Duron I can so if I fry it I'll only lose $35 or so. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
Oh well. Live and learn, I guess . At least I know what's wrong now.
have you tried to get it working since you think you fried it? it's really not going to hurt anything to have it in there and start it up. you never know, might be tougher than you think.
sorry to hear about the chip if it is toast.
of course, as many people have pointed out in other forums, you can burn through approx. 3 athlons of similar speed vs. P4's and still come out ahead.
The thing that scares me is this: I followed one method of applying Arctic Silver (what you do is you put a little glob on the core, then install the HS on top of it which should spread it out nicely to the edges), and it didn't really work. The AS never smudged to the edge of the core, and and glob in the center was thicker than it should be. I wonder if my mounting screws are a smidgen too tall, preventing my HS from fully contacting the core. I've screwed it in very tightly.
Basically you want to apply a small amount of arctic silver to the top of your cpu die and spread it out with a business card or other suitable hard flat surface. The layer should be very thin and exhibit mountain peak type texture when heatsink is mounted and then removed, showing good contact.
Basically you want to apply a small amount of arctic silver to the top of your cpu die and spread it out with a business card or other suitable hard flat surface. The layer should be very thin and exhibit mountain peak type texture when heatsink is mounted and then removed, showing good contact.<hr></blockquote>
*Phew*. I thought that was weird. Well, at least that isn't the way I originally applied it. I did the "dab on HS and CPU then spread with finger through a plastic baggie" method. Don't know about the mountain peaking though. Maybe I need some more, because I rubbed it until there was only a very thin film.
You don't want to use your finger. Your finger doesn't make a good spatula. You want to using something with a flat edge that will scrape excess off. And the flat edge will also spread the compound evenly.
I've always used a cut-off/torn-off piece of an index card.
[quote]You don't want to use your finger. Your finger doesn't make a good spatula. You want to using something with a flat edge that will scrape excess off. And the flat edge will also spread the compound evenly.
I've always used a cut-off/torn-off piece of an index card.<hr></blockquote>
Hehe. Okay, I'll go with a credit card. My index cards have little threads on them...almost hairy. <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
Is there any way of figuring out where the CPU may not be contacting the HS? What about if I spread the AS3 with the credit card and just see were the AS shows up on the bottom of a clean 8045, no?
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Yay! I think. So I put in my RAM, and try it again. "That's funny" I say, why is it giving me this damn FFh POST code again? Oh well, I think, and I put in the video card now.
I boot it up. Same damn FFh POST code. I wait for something to come onto the monitor anyway, when something seems funny. "What the hell is that weird smell?" says I. My heart skips a beat. I sniff the PSU. "Nope, not there" I think. I sniff my HSF. "Hmm, that does indeed smell weird. Maybe because it's the first time the CPU is doing something." And doing something it indeed was. I touch the HS. Feels a little warm, especially considering it's not even putting anything on the screen.
"Oh no!" says I. I shut everything down and hastily unscrew the HSF. There's a miniscule black mark on the die and where it touches the HSF. Yep, that's right, I just fried my beautiful $117 Athlon XP1700+ into a useless piece of silicon that is now bound to become nothing more in life than a keychain.
Well, I don't really have any more questions...I know exactly what has been happening. Now I'm certainly enlightened as to why so many people are lobbying for a thermal protector on the Thuroughbred.
Yeah I'm an idiot. I guess I got so nervous that I might crack the core that I didn't screw my PAL8045 in hard enough. This time I'm gonna buy the cheapest Duron I can so if I fry it I'll only lose $35 or so. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
Oh well. Live and learn, I guess
sorry to hear about the chip if it is toast.
of course, as many people have pointed out in other forums, you can burn through approx. 3 athlons of similar speed vs. P4's and still come out ahead.
[ 04-07-2002: Message edited by: alcimedes ]</p>
The thing that scares me is this: I followed one method of applying Arctic Silver (what you do is you put a little glob on the core, then install the HS on top of it which should spread it out nicely to the edges), and it didn't really work. The AS never smudged to the edge of the core, and and glob in the center was thicker than it should be. I wonder if my mounting screws are a smidgen too tall, preventing my HS from fully contacting the core. I've screwed it in very tightly.
Basically you want to apply a small amount of arctic silver to the top of your cpu die and spread it out with a business card or other suitable hard flat surface. The layer should be very thin and exhibit mountain peak type texture when heatsink is mounted and then removed, showing good contact.
Basically you want to apply a small amount of arctic silver to the top of your cpu die and spread it out with a business card or other suitable hard flat surface. The layer should be very thin and exhibit mountain peak type texture when heatsink is mounted and then removed, showing good contact.<hr></blockquote>
*Phew*. I thought that was weird. Well, at least that isn't the way I originally applied it. I did the "dab on HS and CPU then spread with finger through a plastic baggie" method. Don't know about the mountain peaking though. Maybe I need some more, because I rubbed it until there was only a very thin film.
I've always used a cut-off/torn-off piece of an index card.
I've always used a cut-off/torn-off piece of an index card.<hr></blockquote>
Hehe. Okay, I'll go with a credit card. My index cards have little threads on them...almost hairy. <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
Is there any way of figuring out where the CPU may not be contacting the HS? What about if I spread the AS3 with the credit card and just see were the AS shows up on the bottom of a clean 8045, no?
[ 04-08-2002: Message edited by: radar1503 ]</p>