there is a whole region of europe - balkan states - that is completely uncovered by either maps or data. looking at the map it would seem that there's just a couple of highways there and nothing else. google maps are pretty detailed in the same region, both by maps and points of interests data.
which is a problem not only for apple maps application, but also for 3rd party apps that use mapkit. reverse geocoding doesn't work (it worked before, and even now works in ios < 6), embedded maps doesn't work. so, outside of us, western europe, japan, australia and some other isolated points of the world, apple maps are plain unusable.
there is a whole region of europe - balkan states - that is completely uncovered by either maps or data. looking at the map it would seem that there's just a couple of highways there and nothing else. google maps are pretty detailed in the same region, both by maps and points of interests data.
which is a problem not only for apple maps application, but also for 3rd party apps that use mapkit. reverse geocoding doesn't work (it worked before, and even now works in ios < 6), embedded maps doesn't work. so, outside of us, western europe, japan, australia and some other isolated points of the world, apple maps are plain unusable.
It's useable in Asia. On par with Google map. About showing a couple of highways, do you know how to zoom? Could you show us the places?
Sure, That's why Google is trying to copy it but can't.
In the mean time, you sir are in denial.
I prefer to zoom in with FlyOver in Apple Maps than to use StreetView. I don't use Google Maps anymore on iOS.
Once Apple Maps is available on OS X I will use it there as well instead of Google Maps.
With so many Maps available nowadays, I think Apple Maps is very rich and yet has amazing potential.
In denial? Are you feeling ok today? I live in Hong Kong, Apple maps is useless here. In addition, street view is a must in finding locations in this densely packed city. Addresses are commonly building names, Apple Maps has no building names so address are impossible to find. I spend a lot of time in Australia, GM is far better there. I travel in the course of my work worldwide (aviation), i can barely ever use Apple maps unless I'm in the US or Canada.
You just don't have the experience to comment with any authority.
One more thing - seriously, flyover in Modesto and Stockton? Really?
What's next? Flyover in Gary, Indiana? Compton, CA? Queens, NY? a garbage dump? LOL
Queens is probably not a good example for your sarcasm. With 2.25 Million people living there, its population is greater than most entire cities (in the US, only Los Angeles (3.8M), Chicago (2.7M) and Brooklyn (2.5M) have greater populations), and it's much easier to get lost in than Manhattan (1.7M).
Aghrrrr. I would expect more from this site. Apple had no choice in the matter of dumping Google for its own turn-by-turn navigation system. Google held Apple hostage with an antiquated app for iOS, while they delivered state-of-the-art app on Android. If Apple had not broken away and delivered their own, arch rival Google would not have then capitulated and delivered what they should have 2 years ago.
As an Apple fan, the iOS app is just fine, thank you. And Google is out the search $$$.
So, you could be planning or riding the Underground and follow along in 3D Flyover of the Surface... might decide to get off and explore a bit...
That's very, very cool but still limited practical use. It's also not very helpful when travelling on the Victoria Line. The tunnels don't have wifi and the entire line is deep underground (so no mobile or GPS signal either).
Perhaps he/she means that the maps are blank not in terms of streets but business/POI data. That's largely been my experience. Apple Maps is decent for roads but for my purposes has been fairly useless in terms of finding businesses I look up. Others seem fine with it so clearly very dependent on user location and search habits.
I found that here in Germany even in small villages a lot of POIs popped up recently.
Strange that Minneapolis has Satellite flyover, but no 3D on the Standard View. Hmm, that also applies to Modesto, Stockton, hmm, many more. Probably goes online one after the other...
So, you could be planning or riding the Underground and follow along in 3D Flyover of the Surface... might decide to get off and explore a bit...
Excellent explanation of why it is useful. The detractors that say there is no use for Flyover seem to forget there are occasions when you are not in your own neck of the woods. One thing I have noticed in US cities I go to on business or vacations is the number of places not yet listing themselves on the map. For example a great restaurant I happen to know is on a particular street has no food icon yet. Not sure how that works regarding getting more data onto the maps.
I also want this on OS X! Anyone listening there in Apple HQ?
So, you could be planning or riding the Underground and follow along in 3D Flyover of the Surface... might decide to get off and explore a bit...
That's very, very cool but still limited practical use. It's also not very helpful when travelling on the Victoria Line. The tunnels don't have wifi and the entire line is deep underground (so no mobile or GPS signal either).
Build it and they will come...
I wouldn't be surprised if, before long, you will be able to download Apple Maps to your iDevice -- vector based maps are quite efficient.
I suspect that if there is a need/demand for WiFi in the undergrounds of the world -- that too will happen. They could use the lat/lon of the stations & compute the location between stations.
Flyover has no practical use at all and by the time it covers enough areas, the competition will be away ahead. Apple need to focus on the navigation accuracy. It has been ages since maps was launched and Marlborough, Wiltshire, England still appears as 'Ogbourne Saint Andrew', a village a few miles away. The navigation interface and voice clarity are great, but it's no good if the underlying data is useless! It's a bit like having a pretty but thick woman as your nagging passenger!
Excellent explanation of why it is useful. The detractors that say there is no use for Flyover seem to forget there are occasions when you are not in your own neck of the woods.
The really funny thing is that many of the people who say that there's no need for flyover view insist that street view is absolutely critical and no one could possibly use a mapping program that doesn't offer street view.
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Because of the bad press about Apple Maps I also downloaded Nokia "Here Maps" on my iPhone.
Nokia Here Maps location where wrong for almost 2 blocks in that city! That was very confusing.
Apple maps was fine! Seems all maps have their problems.
But not all map have this "bad press mafia"
there is a whole region of europe - balkan states - that is completely uncovered by either maps or data. looking at the map it would seem that there's just a couple of highways there and nothing else. google maps are pretty detailed in the same region, both by maps and points of interests data.
which is a problem not only for apple maps application, but also for 3rd party apps that use mapkit. reverse geocoding doesn't work (it worked before, and even now works in ios < 6), embedded maps doesn't work. so, outside of us, western europe, japan, australia and some other isolated points of the world, apple maps are plain unusable.
Flyover is very pretty but I've yet to find a practical use for it. Perhaps that's because I live in a city that's not very driver friendly.
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there is a whole region of europe - balkan states - that is completely uncovered by either maps or data. looking at the map it would seem that there's just a couple of highways there and nothing else. google maps are pretty detailed in the same region, both by maps and points of interests data.
which is a problem not only for apple maps application, but also for 3rd party apps that use mapkit. reverse geocoding doesn't work (it worked before, and even now works in ios < 6), embedded maps doesn't work. so, outside of us, western europe, japan, australia and some other isolated points of the world, apple maps are plain unusable.
It's useable in Asia. On par with Google map. About showing a couple of highways, do you know how to zoom? Could you show us the places?
I just checked out the Hover Dam on my mac using Google maps. Well... You can see for yourself. What's up with that bridge!
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Flyover is very pretty but I've yet to find a practical use for it. Perhaps that's because I live in a city that's not very driver friendly.
There are some neat and useful possibilities...
Here's an app that uses the Apple MapKit API to display the Stations on the Victoria Line of the London Underground:
Here it is with a route planned
And in 3D Map view
And in 3D Flyover view
So, you could be planning or riding the Underground and follow along in 3D Flyover of the Surface... might decide to get off and explore a bit...
In denial? Are you feeling ok today? I live in Hong Kong, Apple maps is useless here. In addition, street view is a must in finding locations in this densely packed city. Addresses are commonly building names, Apple Maps has no building names so address are impossible to find. I spend a lot of time in Australia, GM is far better there. I travel in the course of my work worldwide (aviation), i can barely ever use Apple maps unless I'm in the US or Canada.
You just don't have the experience to comment with any authority.
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One more thing - seriously, flyover in Modesto and Stockton? Really?
What's next? Flyover in Gary, Indiana? Compton, CA? Queens, NY? a garbage dump? LOL
Queens is probably not a good example for your sarcasm. With 2.25 Million people living there, its population is greater than most entire cities (in the US, only Los Angeles (3.8M), Chicago (2.7M) and Brooklyn (2.5M) have greater populations), and it's much easier to get lost in than Manhattan (1.7M).
As an Apple fan, the iOS app is just fine, thank you. And Google is out the search $$$.
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Seeing Modesto and Stockton on the list makes me wonder how they are assigning priority to Maps improvements.
I'm sure they start with where their users live based on AppleID info and/or iOS device usage.
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So, you could be planning or riding the Underground and follow along in 3D Flyover of the Surface... might decide to get off and explore a bit...
That's very, very cool but still limited practical use. It's also not very helpful when travelling on the Victoria Line. The tunnels don't have wifi and the entire line is deep underground (so no mobile or GPS signal either).
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Perhaps he/she means that the maps are blank not in terms of streets but business/POI data. That's largely been my experience. Apple Maps is decent for roads but for my purposes has been fairly useless in terms of finding businesses I look up. Others seem fine with it so clearly very dependent on user location and search habits.
I found that here in Germany even in small villages a lot of POIs popped up recently.
Big deal. It's neat, but not overly useful for most of us.
Excellent explanation of why it is useful. The detractors that say there is no use for Flyover seem to forget there are occasions when you are not in your own neck of the woods. One thing I have noticed in US cities I go to on business or vacations is the number of places not yet listing themselves on the map. For example a great restaurant I happen to know is on a particular street has no food icon yet. Not sure how that works regarding getting more data onto the maps.
I also want this on OS X! Anyone listening there in Apple HQ?
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Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum
So, you could be planning or riding the Underground and follow along in 3D Flyover of the Surface... might decide to get off and explore a bit...
That's very, very cool but still limited practical use. It's also not very helpful when travelling on the Victoria Line. The tunnels don't have wifi and the entire line is deep underground (so no mobile or GPS signal either).
Build it and they will come...
I wouldn't be surprised if, before long, you will be able to download Apple Maps to your iDevice -- vector based maps are quite efficient.
I suspect that if there is a need/demand for WiFi in the undergrounds of the world -- that too will happen. They could use the lat/lon of the stations & compute the location between stations.
The really funny thing is that many of the people who say that there's no need for flyover view insist that street view is absolutely critical and no one could possibly use a mapping program that doesn't offer street view.