Wow, gigabit wifi would be awesome. And it would rack up even awesomer overage charges on my data plan, which limits me to 5GB/month. In fact, even the current 4G LTE connection I've got is too fast, because the damnable autoplay video ads have begun rolling and downloading data faster than I can turn them off. And I'll end up downloading entire youtube videos before I can realize that I am not interested, based upon the first few seconds. These things burn through my monthly data allocation too fast as it is. Is there a setting in SnowLeopard (or higher) that can throttle my Mac's datastream? Or is there a 3rd party throttling application that I could install?
On this 5G standard, ten seconds of unwanted video = $50 overage charge. Eeeeek!
Faster, more reliable internet connections open up the possibility of new services. Don't think in terms of what's offered today.
Like what? I never think of what is offered today, am always thinking of the future (that's what I do for a living). Sure there will be a certain percentage of people who will have requirement for greater speed. But all the average consumer cares about is video. Adequate speed to stream in high res video is all that most will care for.
You will have iGlasses (and Apple's similar offering) which will no doubt require greater upload speed in the future, due to data storage in the 'cloud', but that's about it. But even still, the main bandwidth hog will be (and will always be) video.
It's PR from Samsung about technology that might be available in 2020. How is that relevant to Apple in 2013? Is AI that hard up with stuff to fill the pages on their site? Or do they like reporting on Samsung because they know it's good click bait to drive hits to the site?
If you're going to be 5-10 years ahead of the competition then what's going to be available in 2020 is very relevant.
US telephone/cable companies haven't even implemented 4G completely with many still using 3G, and they want to think about 5G? I have relatives from overseas that simply laugh at how much Americans pay for high speed internet and cable, versus what they get in technology and services in return. They get more for 2/3rds less than what we pay, and companies over there are serious about keeping up with implementation, where companies like Samsung will invest in the R&D to take advantage of it.
Like what? I never think of what is offered today, am always thinking of the future (that's what I do for a living). Sure there will be a certain percentage of people who will have requirement for greater speed. But all the average consumer cares about is video. Adequate speed to stream in high res video is all that most will care for.
You will have iGlasses (and Apple's similar offering) which will no doubt require greater upload speed in the future, due to data storage in the 'cloud', but that's about it. But even still, the main bandwidth hog will be (and will always be) video.
Wouldn't iGlasses most likely be Apple's offering?
I can barely think of decent uses for 4G, let alone 5G. My 3G connection streams video adequately, and that's about as data intensive as I need, or will need for in the foreseeable future.
I don't care for downloading video in seconds. As long as I can stream it, and play it immediately, who cares.
"There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home." -- Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of Digital Equipment Corp., 1977
I remember when 20 years ago my friend said "who the hell needs a 40 Mb hard drive?" With 4K and even 8K on the horizon those speeds will be needed.
Well your friend is stupid! That was obvious. And I have always seen use for increasing data storage and bandwidth... until now.
Incremental updates, and cloud based storage, make local storage almost obsolete (for your average consumer). And streaming high res video is about all that will required from bandwidth (for your average consumer).
I keep repeating 'for your average consumer' because this is key. You will always have a small percentage of people who will require vast amounts of bandwidth, for instance a security company with multiple video streams on the go. But again, it's all about the video. Video is and will alway be the number one bandwidth hog.
Good luck with that. By the time we all have hundred Mb/s Internet to our homes, we'll be capped to one hundred megabytes per month.
I was just thinking the same thing. Wireless service needs a new business model: one which isn't funded (extorted) by bandwidth caps and roaming fees, but also not by personal information harvesting and targeted advertising. Perhaps by hardware sales...
And how many tens of years will it be before this is implemented in a wide scale. There are many areas of the US still not connected with 3G, let alone 5G depending on what carrier you have. While the technology sounds great, if its expensive as hell then I don't see anyone using it anytime soon. Where I live, if you have anything other than Verizon you're stuck on 2G and I don't live out in the boondocks either.
In my opinion, the US STILL is not ready for high-bandwidth data. Its a challenge to stream videos sometimes on AppleTV. Yes, some of it may be Apple, but it can't always be Apple or some other service. The network bandwidth just isn't there in the US yet. With this 3D thing going on, I'd like to see people stream 3D movies on the fly...see how that works out. I bet it will be a major flop!
I was just thinking the same thing. Wireless service needs a new business model: one which isn't funded (extorted) by bandwidth caps and roaming fees, but also not by personal information harvesting and targeted advertising. Perhaps by hardware sales...
Well, according to some, this is the best way of going forward.
Limiting people's use of something is better than building more of something.
I can barely think of decent uses for 4G, let alone 5G. My 3G connection streams video adequately, and that's about as data intensive as I need, or will need for in the foreseeable future.
I don't care for downloading video in seconds. As long as I can stream it, and play it immediately, who cares.
Without an upgrade to infrastructure, technology stagnates.
You ever hear that (rumored) Bill Gates quote? "640K of memory ought to be enough for anyone."
No one's going to develop consumer technologies that require 100mbps Internet connections if those 100mbps connections show no promise of high adoption.
And how many tens of years will it be before this is implemented in a wide scale. There are many areas of the US still not connected with 3G, let alone 5G depending on what carrier you have. While the technology sounds great, if its expensive as hell then I don't see anyone using it anytime soon. Where I live, if you have anything other than Verizon you're stuck on 2G and I don't live out in the boondocks either.
In my opinion, the US STILL is not ready for high-bandwidth data. Its a challenge to stream videos sometimes on AppleTV. Yes, some of it may be Apple, but it can't always be Apple or some other service. The network bandwidth just isn't there in the US yet. With this 3D thing going on, I'd like to see people stream 3D movies on the fly...see how that works out. I bet it will be a major flop!
Those areas might leap frog to 5G. Some countries go from being vastly behind to superior service.
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Wow, gigabit wifi would be awesome. And it would rack up even awesomer overage charges on my data plan, which limits me to 5GB/month. In fact, even the current 4G LTE connection I've got is too fast, because the damnable autoplay video ads have begun rolling and downloading data faster than I can turn them off. And I'll end up downloading entire youtube videos before I can realize that I am not interested, based upon the first few seconds. These things burn through my monthly data allocation too fast as it is. Is there a setting in SnowLeopard (or higher) that can throttle my Mac's datastream? Or is there a 3rd party throttling application that I could install?
On this 5G standard, ten seconds of unwanted video = $50 overage charge. Eeeeek!
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Originally Posted by RichL
Faster, more reliable internet connections open up the possibility of new services. Don't think in terms of what's offered today.
Like what? I never think of what is offered today, am always thinking of the future (that's what I do for a living). Sure there will be a certain percentage of people who will have requirement for greater speed. But all the average consumer cares about is video. Adequate speed to stream in high res video is all that most will care for.
You will have iGlasses (and Apple's similar offering) which will no doubt require greater upload speed in the future, due to data storage in the 'cloud', but that's about it. But even still, the main bandwidth hog will be (and will always be) video.
gibiBIT for the tech v. gibiBYTE for how how iSP charges you, so you'd need to get 80 seconds of unwanted video for your scenario.
If you're going to be 5-10 years ahead of the competition then what's going to be available in 2020 is very relevant.
Wouldn't iGlasses most likely be Apple's offering?
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Originally Posted by monstrosity
I can barely think of decent uses for 4G, let alone 5G. My 3G connection streams video adequately, and that's about as data intensive as I need, or will need for in the foreseeable future.
I don't care for downloading video in seconds. As long as I can stream it, and play it immediately, who cares.
"There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home." -- Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of Digital Equipment Corp., 1977
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Originally Posted by dasanman69
I remember when 20 years ago my friend said "who the hell needs a 40 Mb hard drive?" With 4K and even 8K on the horizon those speeds will be needed.
Well your friend is stupid! That was obvious. And I have always seen use for increasing data storage and bandwidth... until now.
Incremental updates, and cloud based storage, make local storage almost obsolete (for your average consumer). And streaming high res video is about all that will required from bandwidth (for your average consumer).
I keep repeating 'for your average consumer' because this is key. You will always have a small percentage of people who will require vast amounts of bandwidth, for instance a security company with multiple video streams on the go. But again, it's all about the video. Video is and will alway be the number one bandwidth hog.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Good luck with that. By the time we all have hundred Mb/s Internet to our homes, we'll be capped to one hundred megabytes per month.
I was just thinking the same thing. Wireless service needs a new business model: one which isn't funded (extorted) by bandwidth caps and roaming fees, but also not by personal information harvesting and targeted advertising. Perhaps by hardware sales...
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Originally Posted by cmvsm
"There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home." -- Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of Digital Equipment Corp., 1977
every tech eventually reaches a point where its too good for what most people want and something else takes over
gaming graphics cards, home internet, computers, etc
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Originally Posted by cmvsm
"There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home." -- Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of Digital Equipment Corp., 1977
Oh for gods sake, don't tar me with the same brush! Anyone who knows me knows I'm the last person to say such things.
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Originally Posted by dasanman69
Wouldn't iGlasses most likely be Apple's offering?
Sorry yeah, whatever they call it! 'Google Glasses' Apple I guess will be iView or something.
And how many tens of years will it be before this is implemented in a wide scale. There are many areas of the US still not connected with 3G, let alone 5G depending on what carrier you have. While the technology sounds great, if its expensive as hell then I don't see anyone using it anytime soon. Where I live, if you have anything other than Verizon you're stuck on 2G and I don't live out in the boondocks either.
In my opinion, the US STILL is not ready for high-bandwidth data. Its a challenge to stream videos sometimes on AppleTV. Yes, some of it may be Apple, but it can't always be Apple or some other service. The network bandwidth just isn't there in the US yet. With this 3D thing going on, I'd like to see people stream 3D movies on the fly...see how that works out. I bet it will be a major flop!
Originally Posted by auxio
I was just thinking the same thing. Wireless service needs a new business model: one which isn't funded (extorted) by bandwidth caps and roaming fees, but also not by personal information harvesting and targeted advertising. Perhaps by hardware sales...
Well, according to some, this is the best way of going forward.
Limiting people's use of something is better than building more of something.
… M~hmm.
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Originally Posted by monstrosity
I can barely think of decent uses for 4G, let alone 5G. My 3G connection streams video adequately, and that's about as data intensive as I need, or will need for in the foreseeable future.
I don't care for downloading video in seconds. As long as I can stream it, and play it immediately, who cares.
Without an upgrade to infrastructure, technology stagnates.
You ever hear that (rumored) Bill Gates quote? "640K of memory ought to be enough for anyone."
No one's going to develop consumer technologies that require 100mbps Internet connections if those 100mbps connections show no promise of high adoption.
Those areas might leap frog to 5G. Some countries go from being vastly behind to superior service.