I think many people don't understand that there's a difference between Apple and Samsung's patents.
Apple's patents are mainly broad, generic designs that take $0 in R&D costs.
Samsung's patents deal with REAL technological progress such as 4G LTE and wireless communication. This is why Samsung's patents are VALID while Apple's isn't, and why courts are upholding Samsung's patents while rejecting Apple's.
You're killing me. This is the best joke on this forum. I almost fell of the chair, I was laughing so hard.
The courts seem to disagree with you.
Apple's R&D is mainly assembling Samsung's tech. Apple is in no way involved in creating 5G, the next generation memory architecture or the next generation IC or a working flexible display. All Apple does is wait until Samsung does all the hard work for the R&D and then implements it in their devices. Nothing difficult. It's not different than what Dell does.
I think many people don't understand that there's a difference between Apple and Samsung's patents.
Apple's patents are mainly broad, generic designs that take $0 in R&D costs.
Samsung's patents deal with REAL technological progress such as 4G LTE and wireless communication. This is why Samsung's patents are VALID while Apple's isn't, and why courts are upholding Samsung's patents while rejecting Apple's.
I think what you say about Samsung's patents is correct but I think Apple's patents are also as important. If not why copy? Theres def. value to it and it costs a lot too.
Apple's R&D is mainly assembling Samsung's tech. Apple is in no way involved in creating 5G, the next generation memory architecture or the next generation IC or a working flexible display. All Apple does is wait until Samsung does all the hard work for the R&D and then implements it in their devices. Nothing difficult. It's not different than what Dell does.
Hello, most backward post in years. How're you getting along? Or, rather, how aren't you not staying in the same place?
Originally Posted by JoshKar426
So please tell what next generation tech Apple is working on. I can't wait to hear your response.
Shut up… and go away. Save us all the trouble and tell your boss to give you the check. We'll vouch for you that you lied a few more posts than you did.
Hello, most backward post in years. How're you getting along? Or, rather, how aren't you not staying in the same place?
Shut up… and go away. Save us all the trouble and tell your boss to give you the check. We'll vouch for you that you lied a few more posts than you did.
You seem rather deluded and angry that Apple is nothing but an overglorified Dell. I understand that as Americans, we would want to try to pretend our companies are better than they really are, but sometimes, the truth is undeniable. Apple is an art company, not a tech company. Just look at all their patents that are being invalidated left and right. Apple invents nothing. It's like Dell putting in an AMD 7850 on their XPS-series, so to compete, I put in an AMD 7850 on MY custom-built desktops in order to attract customers. Would it make sense for Dell to sue me for "copying" them? It's not even their GPU. Likewise, nothing on the iPhone is Apple's invention. The hardware is mostly Samsung's tech and the OS is a bastardized version of open-source BSD.
I'd like to ask you something before I leave. Has Apple ever created technology by themselves that didn't suck?
OS 9.x from Apple was entirely Apple's design right down to the kernel, yet it sucked so much that it made Vista look like the best thing ever since sliced bread.
Maps is another disaster that kills people daily due to the incompetent engineers at Apple that can't even make a functional navigation algorithm.
Don't take it the wrong way. Apple does do something better than Samsung, and that's drawing great-looking rectangles. But when it comes down to it, Samsung has the brains and Apple is just that kid on your school group project that does nothing but take all the credit.
I think what you say about Samsung's patents is correct but I think Apple's patents are also as important. If not why copy? Theres def. value to it and it costs a lot too.
Well, those patents that Apple scored a legal victory with are now invalidated.
No surprise here. I've been repeating in my posts for months that the ITC's sole power is injunctions, and they want to keep that power. However, this ban doesn't have a big impact, so it's also politically safe.
The last major time the ITC did this with phones was in 2007 when they banned CDMA devices using a Broadcom patent from coming in... and Verizon almost ran out phones to sell. The President refused to intervene in an IP matter, so Verizon ended up paying a $6 per device royalty themselves (instead of Qualcomm doing it) just to import stock.
(Six dollars to Broadcom! And Apple complains about even paying one dollar to Motorola.)
Likewise, many people are still confused about injunctions vs. FRAND abuse. Multiple world courts have said (and STILL say) that injunctions are a fair weapon for use by any patent holder, SEP or not, if a licensee refuses to negotiate in good faith. (The judgements against Samsung so far have been when Apple was able to convince the court that they had started real negotiations.)
You're right, no surprises that you're still spouting your BS. While some courts have said injunctions can be granted over SEP's, the FACT remains the number of courts, bodies and companies who say they shouldn't far outnumber those that say its OK.
All you've been doing (as usual) is cherry picking certain rulings and implying that its a majority position when it's not. You sure you don't work for the DOJ, as that's the same thing they've been doing with Jobs quotes.
Again I ask you why you're still here? You're not fooling anyone with your garbage posts since nobody believes you anyway. Do you have a quota to full to collect payment? I just can't comprehend why you try your form of subtle trolling when you've been outed long ago.
You seem rather deluded and angry that Apple is nothing but an overglorified Dell. I understand that as Americans, we would want to try to pretend our companies are better than they really are, but sometimes, the truth is undeniable. Apple is an art company, not a tech company. Just look at all their patents that are being invalidated left and right. Apple invents nothing. It's like Dell putting in an AMD 7850 on their XPS-series, so to compete, I put in an AMD 7850 on MY custom-built desktops in order to attract customers. Would it make sense for Dell to sue me for "copying" them? It's not even their GPU. Likewise, nothing on the iPhone is Apple's invention. The hardware is mostly Samsung's tech and the OS is a bastardized version of open-source BSD.
I'd like to ask you something before I leave. Has Apple ever created technology by themselves that didn't suck?
OS 9.x from Apple was entirely Apple's design right down to the kernel, yet it sucked so much that it made Vista look like the best thing ever since sliced bread.
Maps is another disaster that kills people daily due to the incompetent engineers at Apple that can't even make a functional navigation algorithm.
Don't take it the wrong way. Apple does do something better than Samsung, and that's drawing great-looking rectangles. But when it comes down to it, Samsung has the brains and Apple is just that kid on your school group project that does nothing but take all the credit.
Honestly, it wouldn't take much for Apple to get Samsung's products banned.
All Apple has to do is start investing in next-gen tech so that they actually INVENT something for once.
Samsung is already on its way to building 5G infrastructure. If Apple beats Samsung to that goal post, then Apple could use their invention to block Samsung devices if Samsung build 5G devices.
YEP. Shut your troll mouth and get off our website. Useless idiots.
Both Apple and Dell order tech from their suppliers and then assembles them into a product.
Dell and Apple focus on macro elements for their devices. They get to control what their devices look like, how big it is, etc. The tech comes from Samsung, LG, Japanese & Taiwanese suppliers.
I don't see the difference except for the branding.
lol. Not bad ITC. Impressed to overcome the pressures.
Actually this is a huge loss for Samsung. Now they have a ruling and proof of anti-competitiveness that can be added to DoJ antitrust case against Samsung. Samsung is also being probed in the EU over this same issue.
Actually this is a huge loss for Samsung. Now they have a ruling and proof of anti-competitiveness that can be added to DoJ antitrust case against Samsung. Samsung is also being probed in the EU over this same issue.
I hope you realize that Samsung can use the outcome of this verdict in cases at other, less developed countries. You know, developing economies like in South America or South East Asia, where lower-cost iPhones would (Could) be a hit.
This is a massive win for Samsung no matter how you look at it.
I'm sure that Samsung wouldn't mind paying a few million for anticompetitive behavior if it means destroying Apple's presence in emerging markets.
El Guapo: [as he sees the Three Amigos riding in a circle shooting blanks in the air]
"I like these guys!.. They are funny guys!"
Here's one: Retina Display
Why was it that the Samsung display on a particular macbook model was far superior to the LG's display on the SAME macbook model?
Because the displays that came from Samsung were from Samsung's manufacturing tech while the displays that came from LG were from LG's manufacturing tech.
Face it, Apple doesn't engineer jackshit. That's Samsung's job.
Still waiting for that imaginary list of next-gen tech that Apple is working on.
5G - Samsung
Flexible Displays - Samsung
OLED - Samsung
Memory - Samsung
IC - Samsung
Battery - Samsung
The list goes on...
Here's Apple's take on it:
Wait for Samsung to develop all those technology, buy them in large amounts, then rebrand them so that Apple customers think Apple invented them.
The invention isn't the important part it's the implementation of inventions that really matters. So far Apple has been able to out-implement everybody. You have to at least give them credit for the ecosystem they've created.
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You're killing me. This is the best joke on this forum. I almost fell of the chair, I was laughing so hard.
You dumb, Samsung employee clown
(There, got it right this time)
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Originally Posted by Plagen
You're killing me. This is the best joke on this forum. I almost fell of the chair, I was laughing so hard.
So please tell what next generation tech Apple is working on. I can't wait to hear your response.
I think what you say about Samsung's patents is correct but I think Apple's patents are also as important. If not why copy? Theres def. value to it and it costs a lot too.
Originally Posted by JoshKar426
Apple's R&D is mainly assembling Samsung's tech. Apple is in no way involved in creating 5G, the next generation memory architecture or the next generation IC or a working flexible display. All Apple does is wait until Samsung does all the hard work for the R&D and then implements it in their devices. Nothing difficult. It's not different than what Dell does.
Hello, most backward post in years. How're you getting along? Or, rather, how aren't you not staying in the same place?
Originally Posted by JoshKar426
So please tell what next generation tech Apple is working on. I can't wait to hear your response.
Shut up… and go away. Save us all the trouble and tell your boss to give you the check. We'll vouch for you that you lied a few more posts than you did.
Gotta give him a A for effort, it was well written, had proper grammar and spelling.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Hello, most backward post in years. How're you getting along? Or, rather, how aren't you not staying in the same place?
Shut up… and go away. Save us all the trouble and tell your boss to give you the check. We'll vouch for you that you lied a few more posts than you did.
You seem rather deluded and angry that Apple is nothing but an overglorified Dell. I understand that as Americans, we would want to try to pretend our companies are better than they really are, but sometimes, the truth is undeniable. Apple is an art company, not a tech company. Just look at all their patents that are being invalidated left and right. Apple invents nothing. It's like Dell putting in an AMD 7850 on their XPS-series, so to compete, I put in an AMD 7850 on MY custom-built desktops in order to attract customers. Would it make sense for Dell to sue me for "copying" them? It's not even their GPU. Likewise, nothing on the iPhone is Apple's invention. The hardware is mostly Samsung's tech and the OS is a bastardized version of open-source BSD.
I'd like to ask you something before I leave. Has Apple ever created technology by themselves that didn't suck?
OS 9.x from Apple was entirely Apple's design right down to the kernel, yet it sucked so much that it made Vista look like the best thing ever since sliced bread.
Maps is another disaster that kills people daily due to the incompetent engineers at Apple that can't even make a functional navigation algorithm.
Don't take it the wrong way. Apple does do something better than Samsung, and that's drawing great-looking rectangles. But when it comes down to it, Samsung has the brains and Apple is just that kid on your school group project that does nothing but take all the credit.
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Originally Posted by Loptimist
I think what you say about Samsung's patents is correct but I think Apple's patents are also as important. If not why copy? Theres def. value to it and it costs a lot too.
Well, those patents that Apple scored a legal victory with are now invalidated.
All you've been doing (as usual) is cherry picking certain rulings and implying that its a majority position when it's not. You sure you don't work for the DOJ, as that's the same thing they've been doing with Jobs quotes.
Again I ask you why you're still here? You're not fooling anyone with your garbage posts since nobody believes you anyway. Do you have a quota to full to collect payment? I just can't comprehend why you try your form of subtle trolling when you've been outed long ago.
Lol.
Originally Posted by JoshKar426
You seem rather deluded and angry that Apple is nothing but an overglorified Dell.
YEP. Shut your troll mouth and get off our website. Useless idiots.
Originally Posted by EricTheHalfBee
My block list isn't big enough to hold all this stupidity.
That's quite siggable, but I don't use it myself.
Honestly, it wouldn't take much for Apple to get Samsung's products banned.
All Apple has to do is start investing in next-gen tech so that they actually INVENT something for once.
Samsung is already on its way to building 5G infrastructure. If Apple beats Samsung to that goal post, then Apple could use their invention to block Samsung devices if Samsung build 5G devices.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
YEP. Shut your troll mouth and get off our website. Useless idiots.
Both Apple and Dell order tech from their suppliers and then assembles them into a product.
Dell and Apple focus on macro elements for their devices. They get to control what their devices look like, how big it is, etc. The tech comes from Samsung, LG, Japanese & Taiwanese suppliers.
I don't see the difference except for the branding.
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Originally Posted by Pendergast
Lol.
Still waiting for that imaginary list of next-gen tech that Apple is working on.
5G - Samsung
Flexible Displays - Samsung
OLED - Samsung
Memory - Samsung
IC - Samsung
Battery - Samsung
The list goes on...
Here's Apple's take on it:
Wait for Samsung to develop all those technology, buy them in large amounts, then rebrand them so that Apple customers think Apple invented them.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loptimist
lol. Not bad ITC. Impressed to overcome the pressures.
Actually this is a huge loss for Samsung. Now they have a ruling and proof of anti-competitiveness that can be added to DoJ antitrust case against Samsung. Samsung is also being probed in the EU over this same issue.
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Originally Posted by mjtomlin
Actually this is a huge loss for Samsung. Now they have a ruling and proof of anti-competitiveness that can be added to DoJ antitrust case against Samsung. Samsung is also being probed in the EU over this same issue.
I hope you realize that Samsung can use the outcome of this verdict in cases at other, less developed countries. You know, developing economies like in South America or South East Asia, where lower-cost iPhones would (Could) be a hit.
This is a massive win for Samsung no matter how you look at it.
I'm sure that Samsung wouldn't mind paying a few million for anticompetitive behavior if it means destroying Apple's presence in emerging markets.
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Originally Posted by JoshKar426
Here's Apple's take on it:
Wait for Samsung to develop all those technology, buy them in large amounts, then rebrand them so that Apple customers think Apple invented them.
You're funny.
Reminds me of the movie, "Three Amigos!"
El Guapo: [as he sees the Three Amigos riding in a circle shooting blanks in the air]
"I like these guys!.. They are funny guys!"
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Originally Posted by drewys808
You're funny.
Reminds me of the movie, "Three Amigos!"
El Guapo: [as he sees the Three Amigos riding in a circle shooting blanks in the air]
"I like these guys!.. They are funny guys!"
Here's one: Retina Display
Why was it that the Samsung display on a particular macbook model was far superior to the LG's display on the SAME macbook model?
Because the displays that came from Samsung were from Samsung's manufacturing tech while the displays that came from LG were from LG's manufacturing tech.
Face it, Apple doesn't engineer jackshit. That's Samsung's job.
The invention isn't the important part it's the implementation of inventions that really matters. So far Apple has been able to out-implement everybody. You have to at least give them credit for the ecosystem they've created.