[quote]The Register is again quoting a source as saying the G5 is now going into production: the register :eek: <hr></blockquote>
wow... I can only hope/wish this isn't a bunch of bull...
If that source is wrong, I hope he/she is having fun, because they will never be listened to again after Jan? However if they are right... everything they say from here on out will be held as gospel...
I knew the G5 would be ready in Q1-02 I just didn't think it would be in January. Guess that means no one gets a Xmas present from me this year, I'm going into full production on my G5 fund now.
So this would mean that rev 0.7 had the bugs worked out. Even if the low end is 1GHz instead of 1.2GHz I'll be very happy!!!
<strong>I knew the G5 would be ready in Q1-02 I just didn't think it would be in January. Guess that means no one gets a Xmas present from me this year, I'm going into full production on my G5 fund now.
So this would mean that rev 0.7 had the bugs worked out. Even if the low end is 1GHz instead of 1.2GHz I'll be very happy!!!</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yeah, for real. My fund is OK right now. I have some other priorities to fund too, right around that time. But, I'm getting there.....hopefully LCD's come down a bit as well...that will help.
I've been commenting that the G5 won't be out until
later in the year. In fact, I sort of predicted that the apollo G4 would be announced at MWSF '02 with DDR and that the G5 would be released when OSX is officially the default OS.
Now I'm starting to believe that the G5 will be announced this coming MWSF. What is changing my mind is that one of the sessions scheduled for MWSF is called "This ain't your parents' Mac" and I can't see this panel discussion talking about the apollo G4 that is 20% faster than todays G4 AND when the G5 is so close to production. It makes sense to me that this panel discussion will be on the new G5/OSX with all the other powermac improvements.
If they do appear or are announced expect the clock speed for Apple to have room to grow, for sales reasons dont expect 1.6Ghz right of the bat. My guess is like the every high end machine in the past: higher clock speed G4's with a G5 anouncement that it will ship in 6 weeks. G5 will be expesive so will SOI G4's at first.
lol, they're about as fanitical for linux as folks here are for Macs, for the most part. OSX has brought Apple a little respect in the Unix camp though. go figure.
<strong>I've been commenting that the G5 won't be out until
later in the year. In fact, I sort of predicted that the apollo G4 would be announced at MWSF '02 with DDR and that the G5 would be released when OSX is officially the default OS.
Now I'm starting to believe that the G5 will be announced this coming MWSF. What is changing my mind is that one of the sessions scheduled for MWSF is called "This ain't your parents' Mac" and I can't see this panel discussion talking about the apollo G4 that is 20% faster than todays G4 AND when the G5 is so close to production. It makes sense to me that this panel discussion will be on the new G5/OSX with all the other powermac improvements.
So we've got low end guesses at 9xx, 1gig,1.2 gig and high end guesses at the rumored 1.2, 1.4 and 1.6 - with duals in the mix one way or another...so, if you had a choice, would you take duals at the lower speeds (better near-term supply) or single processors at the higher speeds (more restricted supply)?
<strong>so, if you had a choice, would you take duals at the lower speeds (better near-term supply) or single processors at the higher speeds (more restricted supply)? </strong><hr></blockquote>
<strong>So we've got low end guesses at 9xx, 1gig,1.2 gig and high end guesses at the rumored 1.2, 1.4 and 1.6 - with duals in the mix one way or another...so, if you had a choice, would you take duals at the lower speeds (better near-term supply) or single processors at the higher speeds (more restricted supply)? </strong><hr></blockquote>
I guess that's my point...Apple put the emphasis on DP models back before OS X was there to take advantage of them. Now, when OS X is shaping up nicely, why not roll out a wider roster of of DP machines using relatively cheaper current gen G4s? We'd still have the higher speed next gen chips on the high end, of course. I suppose the margins are better on single chip models?
The Register article claiming "The PowerPC G5 has been passed for full-scale manufacture, a source close to Apple has claimed. " was posted 11/28/01.
Some where I read that from start to finish it takes 50-60 days to manufacture microprocessors. Ass-u-me the Register article is true, then the first volume production G5's will be ready to ship when......about the end of Jan. right. Please correct me if I'm wrong, it wouldn't be the first time.
I think the source for The Register's and MOSR's articles is having a good laugh @ the expense of the MacIntosh community.
And by the way, in the MOSR article the quoted mole claimed the G5 to be "ultrascalar".
[quote]Some people have speculated that the G5 is going to be a multicored chip. This is absolutely false! The major performance enhancements of the G5 come from a totally revamped ultrascalar core design.<hr></blockquote>
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<a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/39/23078.html"; target="_blank">the register</a> :eek:
wow... I can only hope/wish this isn't a bunch of bull...
If that source is wrong, I hope he/she is having fun, because they will never be listened to again after Jan? However if they are right... everything they say from here on out will be held as gospel...
<img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
<strong>The Register is again quoting a source as saying the G5 is now going into production:
<a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/39/23078.html"; target="_blank">the register</a> :eek: </strong><hr></blockquote>
Two Words: Holy Sh*t. I don't know guys, that, in conjunction with everything else sounds legit, I just hope I have the $4k to spend when it is time.
Say your prayers for the G5.
I'll believe it when I see it!
So this would mean that rev 0.7 had the bugs worked out. Even if the low end is 1GHz instead of 1.2GHz I'll be very happy!!!
<strong>I knew the G5 would be ready in Q1-02 I just didn't think it would be in January. Guess that means no one gets a Xmas present from me this year, I'm going into full production on my G5 fund now.
So this would mean that rev 0.7 had the bugs worked out. Even if the low end is 1GHz instead of 1.2GHz I'll be very happy!!!</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yeah, for real. My fund is OK right now. I have some other priorities to fund too, right around that time. But, I'm getting there.....hopefully LCD's come down a bit as well...that will help.
later in the year. In fact, I sort of predicted that the apollo G4 would be announced at MWSF '02 with DDR and that the G5 would be released when OSX is officially the default OS.
Now I'm starting to believe that the G5 will be announced this coming MWSF. What is changing my mind is that one of the sessions scheduled for MWSF is called "This ain't your parents' Mac" and I can't see this panel discussion talking about the apollo G4 that is 20% faster than todays G4 AND when the G5 is so close to production. It makes sense to me that this panel discussion will be on the new G5/OSX with all the other powermac improvements.
These are just my thoughts...
- Mark
if you want a true geeks perspective on what the G5 means to the geek community, check out this link.
<a href="http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/09/17/1421246&mode=thread"; target="_blank">slashdot article</a>
lol, they're about as fanitical for linux as folks here are for Macs, for the most part. OSX has brought Apple a little respect in the Unix camp though. go figure.
<strong>I've been commenting that the G5 won't be out until
later in the year. In fact, I sort of predicted that the apollo G4 would be announced at MWSF '02 with DDR and that the G5 would be released when OSX is officially the default OS.
Now I'm starting to believe that the G5 will be announced this coming MWSF. What is changing my mind is that one of the sessions scheduled for MWSF is called "This ain't your parents' Mac" and I can't see this panel discussion talking about the apollo G4 that is 20% faster than todays G4 AND when the G5 is so close to production. It makes sense to me that this panel discussion will be on the new G5/OSX with all the other powermac improvements.
These are just my thoughts...
- Mark</strong><hr></blockquote>
<img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />
<strong>so, if you had a choice, would you take duals at the lower speeds (better near-term supply) or single processors at the higher speeds (more restricted supply)?
Can we have both?
<strong>So we've got low end guesses at 9xx, 1gig,1.2 gig and high end guesses at the rumored 1.2, 1.4 and 1.6 - with duals in the mix one way or another...so, if you had a choice, would you take duals at the lower speeds (better near-term supply) or single processors at the higher speeds (more restricted supply)?
DPs are faster.
Andrew
<strong>
DPs are faster.
Andrew</strong><hr></blockquote>
I guess that's my point...Apple put the emphasis on DP models back before OS X was there to take advantage of them. Now, when OS X is shaping up nicely, why not roll out a wider roster of of DP machines using relatively cheaper current gen G4s? We'd still have the higher speed next gen chips on the high end, of course. I suppose the margins are better on single chip models?
[ 11-29-2001: Message edited by: NeoMac ]</p>
<strong>my new signature says it all!
[ 11-29-2001: Message edited by: NeoMac ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
:cool:
The Register article claiming "The PowerPC G5 has been passed for full-scale manufacture, a source close to Apple has claimed. " was posted 11/28/01.
Some where I read that from start to finish it takes 50-60 days to manufacture microprocessors. Ass-u-me the Register article is true, then the first volume production G5's will be ready to ship when......about the end of Jan. right. Please correct me if I'm wrong, it wouldn't be the first time.
I think the source for The Register's and MOSR's articles is having a good laugh @ the expense of the MacIntosh community.
And by the way, in the MOSR article the quoted mole claimed the G5 to be "ultrascalar".
[quote]Some people have speculated that the G5 is going to be a multicored chip. This is absolutely false! The major performance enhancements of the G5 come from a totally revamped ultrascalar core design.<hr></blockquote>
Any one know what ultrascalar means?
[ 11-30-2001: Message edited by: rickag ]
And another thing, a lot of people seem to believe the G5 will be 64bit. Look at Motorola's roadmap <a href="http://e-www.motorola.com/collateral/PPCRMAP.pdf"; target="_blank">http://e-www.motorola.com/collateral/PPCRMAP.pdf</a>;
"32 & 64 bit products"
Major differences between G4 & G5 will be the
1. New Pipeline
2. Rapid I/O
and maybe on-chip non-blocking crossbar switch fabric, called OCeaN (On-Chip Network))
[ 11-30-2001: Message edited by: rickag ]</p>
<a href="http://www.architosh.com/news/2001-11/2001a-1130-appleg5.phtml"; target="_blank">http://www.architosh.com/news/2001-11/2001a-1130-appleg5.phtml</a>;
Definitely worth the read.
[ 11-30-2001: Message edited by: rickag ]</p>