I think it's a cultural thing--and even an American and Californian SUB-cultural thing. Not to cast aspersions on the culture of South Korea, but its culture and Samsung's sub-culture are simply different than that in which Steve Jobs grew up, in which he lived most of his life, in which he built his company, and which he deeply loved.
Apple and its values and its essence grew from Steve's ideas, and there apparently ISN'T or wasn't ever a Korean "Steve."
I've always been a proud American, and perhaps a Californian, at least at heart. It was initially a love of both its geography (beaches, deserts, mountains, etc.) and Disneyland. That grew into a significant admiration for its "counter-culture" of the '60s and '70s.
And then I discovered Apple in the late '70s via its computers. I've been a happy Mac user since 1985 and have owned most of the subsequent models, always happy to upgrade to more powerful versions.
I think the turning point for the company--when it really found its way and then poured on the steam--was around the time of the OS X keynote speech in which Steve said that the company was betting its future on it.
After that came the string of palpable innovations.
Who knows if Tim & company can uphold the tradition? I think they can.
Talked with a guy about the impeding iPhone 5s launch and his response was that his Galaxy was better. My response was, "not when you consider the entire ecosystem you are in when you work with an iPhone." His response: "Yeah, true."
Apple has always been about the user experience. I'm sure the Galaxy has some cool features but the question is, which of those cool features make you more productive and which are gimmick you could live without. Very little on the iPhone are things that you really don't care about. Most are features that have an impact on usability.
Each gimmick just waters down the overall experience. This is why people typically love their iPhones so much. Much more than they will every love their Android device.
I compared them, and the Panasonic is very nice, but there were still reported issues at that time with the longevity of the plasma panels at high elevation. We're at 7500 ft here.
I believe its more then a product. The "line" offers time with like people. The cult of Mac has been expanded to not just the computer but to a community of people that are like minded. They make friends share tips and yes its also a bought a product that brings people together and connects them to the world. Apple has never been, just a company. They have remained small, buy creating products for people. Not products to sell. Steve may be gone, but the way he brought people and products together made me feel apart of his vision. Tim and Jony have continued this by making something that is apart of you. I have two things always on me. My wedding ring and my iPhone.
Sammy is a pathetic. They should worry about their offerings rather than bitching about new iPhone launch lines. There's also something else Samsung's dumb a** forget to factor in and that is iOS is 100% Apple and only on Apple swag; while Android is a free, off the shelf mobile OS from Google that is on every effing non Apple smart phone.
Let Sammy do their own mobile OS on their hardware and then we can talk. Until then, BOW DOWN!!!!!!!
Thats people's loyalty & passion towards originality. Samsung simply sucks. They are very keen to see to that their copied products lasts not more than a year so that people wud buy their next release. No business ethics.
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SlimeStung is worried, scared green. No matter what it does, products, copying, junktifying, speck crazy, silly add-ons, lying, paying troops of trolls, it just cannot break into Apple's style and fan adoration. Most StinkSung users don't stay more than one edition unless they are short of change, some insane Apple Hater, rock falls on head or plain simple.
The kind person that I am, my well wishes are with dear SamSung: I wish SmarmySneak would fall into a bottomless well.
Iphones are a joy to simply hold, which is why i do not use a case, i love the device!!!
Cheers to that.. I love the size of my iPhone; I hope that Apple doesn't give in to the media's maniacal demands for a larger screen... it's perfect the way it is!
I'm honestly a little shocked at Samsung doing this, but after a little consideration, it makes perfect sense and it's definitely something that's exactly what Samsung would do, study a problem and attempt to copy it.
The problem is that Samsung doesn't understand several things, and by the nature of it's management, will never be able to duplicate.
Samsung devices are like a hot rod built from JC Whitney parts, they work, but they're cobbled together, and really don't look that great. They could take the time to make the OS and apps look great and look like they came from the same manufacturer, but they don't, again, cobbled together.
And I'm using a Note 2 as a daily driver, as soon as Apple makes a phablet, I'm back using all Apple stuff.
I don't know how much mystique there is in sitting all night next to a bunch of homeless people and being treated to bum fights. I think that a preorder list would have been better even if that meant fewer lines. People still queue up to pick up their phones. They just don't stay up all night camped on a dirty side walk.
I'm honestly a little shocked at Samsung doing this, but after a little consideration, it makes perfect sense and it's definitely something that's exactly what Samsung would do, study a problem and attempt to copy it.
The problem is that Samsung doesn't understand several things, and by the nature of it's management, will never be able to duplicate.
Samsung devices are like a hot rod built from JC Whitney parts, they work, but they're cobbled together, and really don't look that great. They could take the time to make the OS and apps look great and look like they came from the same manufacturer, but they don't, again, cobbled together.
And I'm using a Note 2 as a daily driver, as soon as Apple makes a phablet, I'm back using all Apple stuff.
Exactly.
That's what happens when one company makes the hardware and another company makes the OS.
Let's pretend Samsung has some amazing idea. They'd either have to wait for Google to implement it... or bolt it on themselves on top of the OS. And we've seen how well Samsung does software...
I'm honestly a little shocked at Samsung doing this, but after a little consideration, it makes perfect sense and it's definitely something that's exactly what Samsung would do, study a problem and attempt to copy it.
The problem is that Samsung doesn't understand several things, and by the nature of it's management, will never be able to duplicate.
Samsung devices are like a hot rod built from JC Whitney parts, they work, but they're cobbled together, and really don't look that great. They could take the time to make the OS and apps look great and look like they came from the same manufacturer, but they don't, again, cobbled together.
And I'm using a Note 2 as a daily driver, as soon as Apple makes a phablet, I'm back using all Apple stuff.
A friend of mine has a Note II and it's a shame how difficult the OS is to use with a stylus. He gets frustrated using the OS after 5 minutes.
None of these are reasons to stand in line for days in advance. Sorry. Maybe i'm just a bit more sane. i love(d) the iPhone (until iOS 7), but i'd never have stood in line. For days. It's just a bit too crazy to me. i don't understand why that's not the number one answer here.
Um, because they make their own OS, not borrow someone else's. Maybe Tizen will work for you guys, you know, your own blood, sweat, and tears that build it, as opposed to throwing on a few sprinkles and flourishes on the Mountain View product.
To zen I heard actually belong to HTC which Samsung ripped off and 'made their own'
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I think it's a cultural thing--and even an American and Californian SUB-cultural thing. Not to cast aspersions on the culture of South Korea, but its culture and Samsung's sub-culture are simply different than that in which Steve Jobs grew up, in which he lived most of his life, in which he built his company, and which he deeply loved.
Apple and its values and its essence grew from Steve's ideas, and there apparently ISN'T or wasn't ever a Korean "Steve."
I've always been a proud American, and perhaps a Californian, at least at heart. It was initially a love of both its geography (beaches, deserts, mountains, etc.) and Disneyland. That grew into a significant admiration for its "counter-culture" of the '60s and '70s.
And then I discovered Apple in the late '70s via its computers. I've been a happy Mac user since 1985 and have owned most of the subsequent models, always happy to upgrade to more powerful versions.
I think the turning point for the company--when it really found its way and then poured on the steam--was around the time of the OS X keynote speech in which Steve said that the company was betting its future on it.
After that came the string of palpable innovations.
Who knows if Tim & company can uphold the tradition? I think they can.
To hell with all the detractors.
Apple is the Owsley and Samsung the brown acid.
Apple has always been about the user experience. I'm sure the Galaxy has some cool features but the question is, which of those cool features make you more productive and which are gimmick you could live without. Very little on the iPhone are things that you really don't care about. Most are features that have an impact on usability.
Each gimmick just waters down the overall experience. This is why people typically love their iPhones so much. Much more than they will every love their Android device.
What kind of reception do you get on Mt Everest?
A cold one.
I believe its more then a product. The "line" offers time with like people. The cult of Mac has been expanded to not just the computer but to a community of people that are like minded. They make friends share tips and yes its also a bought a product that brings people together and connects them to the world. Apple has never been, just a company. They have remained small, buy creating products for people. Not products to sell. Steve may be gone, but the way he brought people and products together made me feel apart of his vision. Tim and Jony have continued this by making something that is apart of you. I have two things always on me. My wedding ring and my iPhone.
Guess they needed as many spies as possible.
There's also something else Samsung's dumb a** forget to factor in and that is iOS is 100% Apple and only on Apple swag; while Android is a free, off the shelf mobile OS from Google that is on every effing non Apple smart phone.
Let Sammy do their own mobile OS on their hardware and then we can talk.
Until then, BOW DOWN!!!!!!!
Of course word came from the top! A no brainer.
" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />
SlimeStung is worried, scared green. No matter what it does, products, copying, junktifying, speck crazy, silly add-ons, lying, paying troops of trolls, it just cannot break into Apple's style and fan adoration. Most StinkSung users don't stay more than one edition unless they are short of change, some insane Apple Hater, rock falls on head or plain simple.
The kind person that I am, my well wishes are with dear SamSung: I wish SmarmySneak would fall into a bottomless well.
A cold one.
Recently that's apparently true.
Quality
Useabilty
Design
Iphones are a joy to simply hold, which is why i do not use a case, i love the device!!!
Cheers to that.. I love the size of my iPhone; I hope that Apple doesn't give in to the media's maniacal demands for a larger screen... it's perfect the way it is!
The problem is that Samsung doesn't understand several things, and by the nature of it's management, will never be able to duplicate.
Samsung devices are like a hot rod built from JC Whitney parts, they work, but they're cobbled together, and really don't look that great. They could take the time to make the OS and apps look great and look like they came from the same manufacturer, but they don't, again, cobbled together.
And I'm using a Note 2 as a daily driver, as soon as Apple makes a phablet, I'm back using all Apple stuff.
Jealous ones envy. Go Apple!
Eff Samsung, insecure copycat clowns.
Exactly.
That's what happens when one company makes the hardware and another company makes the OS.
Let's pretend Samsung has some amazing idea. They'd either have to wait for Google to implement it... or bolt it on themselves on top of the OS. And we've seen how well Samsung does software...
A friend of mine has a Note II and it's a shame how difficult the OS is to use with a stylus. He gets frustrated using the OS after 5 minutes.
"but the South Korean tech giant may not be above trying to figure out just what drives those fans to queue up hours and days in advance."
Products that don't suck.
/research
Also this:
To zen I heard actually belong to HTC which Samsung ripped off and 'made their own'