ABC, WSJ bloggers explain Apple's record iPhone launch numbers are bad news

123578

Comments

  • Reply 81 of 145
    herbapouherbapou Posts: 2,228member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stylorouge View Post

    Its all hype then. Well android sets are better looking strictly at specs. Hopefully Apple will deliver an amazing iPhone 6.

     

    I wonder what good are those specs when the iphone 5s completly destroys all the other phones on Geekbench in singlecore, multicore and battery life. 

  • Reply 82 of 145
    satchmosatchmo Posts: 2,699member
    Who the f*ck is Sandy Cannold?
  • Reply 83 of 145
    snovasnova Posts: 1,281member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by island hermit View Post

     

    I said the analysts would work the China debut numbers into the equation. I didn't say good or bad; right or wrong. I just said they would harp on about it.

     

    Some of our more astute members put all of their passion and angst into telling me that I wasn't using my brain.

     

    You gotta love it.  

     

    <img class=" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" /> 


     

    China estimates were already factored in to the estimates by the street.  What is interesting is that Apple revised its estimates upwards.  

  • Reply 84 of 145
    satchmo wrote: »
    Who the f*ck is Sandy Cannold?

    A fat fingered f*ck, weren't you paying attention? Btw his tweet was idiotic since the buttons on virtual keyboards are bigger than on a physical one.
  • Reply 85 of 145
    I agree with Dan, but I will point out that Munster is referring to 5C inventory which everyone agrees is widely available. The 5S is the one out of stock.

    That being said, Apple has never reported sell-in numbers before. What would be the point anyway. If Apple tried to "trick" people with sell-in numbers they would have to pay the piper when they report their September quarter inventory in October. I don't think they would want to overheat enthusiasm only to have to deflate it a couple weeks later. Ultimately, I find Munster's logic flawed.

    A point that is seemingly overlooked is that the iPhone 5 was supply constrained last year. The 5S was also supply constrained. The question is, were they equally supply constrained. Different answers to that question in particular can paint a very very rosy picture or a potentially more muted one. The problem is people are trying to extrapolate one weekend of sales into an entire quarter and even year of sales. There are just too many moving parts.
  • Reply 86 of 145

    Research analysts are most definitely restricted from trading names they cover. In fact, they are restricted from trading names their colleagues cover as well. Let's not go overborad with conspiracy theories. 

  • Reply 87 of 145
    We get that you like Blackberry, Mr. Cannold, but what's with the swipes at Apple? Under-the-table coin, jealousy?

    The reason I buy Apple products and services at the premium it bears is because of the quality of the product along with the features for which make my life more convenient and from the positive experience and enjoyment it brings. I also like it because it is easy-to-use and possesses better security features (hardware and software) than other offerings that I've seen on the market.

    No product or service is perfect, but Apple's provides the most of everything for my money. So if Blackberry or Android floats your boat, then great! More power to you! Just don't preach that your system is better when the experience differs from person-to-person.
  • Reply 88 of 145
    quinneyquinney Posts: 2,528member
    allenbf wrote: »
    Apple is damned if they do, damned if they don't. Apparently.

    That's doomed if they do and doomed if they don't.
  • Reply 89 of 145
    quinneyquinney Posts: 2,528member
    satchmo wrote: »
    Who the f*ck is Sandy Cannold?

    A little steroid ointment will clear it right up.
  • Reply 90 of 145

    The analyst comments about China being included are asinine. China being included wasn't a surprise. The analysts based their original numbers of $4-6M on knowledge of China being included. Apple beat their estimates. Case closed.

  • Reply 91 of 145
    wovelwovel Posts: 956member
    pendergast wrote: »
    The analyst comments about China being included are asinine. China being included wasn't a surprise. The analysts based their original numbers of $4-6M on knowledge of China being included. Apple beat their estimates. Case closed.

    This is always my favorite part of their follow-up reports. They were wrong, way wrong and then try to claim it was because of some factor everyone knew about for months.
  • Reply 92 of 145
    All of those sh¡tty news... I smell full of bullsh¡t. I bet they got that fake info from crappy Samesung or Samsjunk.
  • Reply 93 of 145

    Apple simply needs to regain control of it public relations and spend more on advertising.  Right now Samsung dominates the advertising market on TV & internet so my bet is this is why so many people kowtow to everything Samsung. In addition, Samsung pays higher commissions to sales staff in brick &mortar stores.  These people end up pushing Samsung products as better than anything else..  Samsung buys loyalty from the media & sales people.  Perhaps Tim Cook should get off some of that money and do the same.

  • Reply 94 of 145

    Apple would not have raised quarterly estimates if it had not sold the phones it reported to have sold.  All this noise about the validity of the 9M is meaningless and Gene Munster has lost all credibility.  We all knew that whatever numbers Apple reported, the biased media would have reported it negatively.  Ignore them and keep buying Apple stock if you believe in what they are doing. 

  • Reply 95 of 145
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ybfmiami View Post

     

    Apple simply needs to regain control of it public relations and spend more on advertising.  Right now Samsung dominates the advertising market on TV & internet so my bet is this is why so many people kowtow to everything Samsung. In addition, Samsung pays higher commissions to sales staff in brick &mortar stores.  These people end up pushing Samsung products as better than anything else..  Samsung buys loyalty from the media & sales people.  Perhaps Tim Cook should get off some of that money and do the same.


     

    Yeah, because at least if they spent more money on advertising they'd have record sales, lines around the block and sell out all inventory. Oh, wait. Never mind.

  • Reply 96 of 145
    asdasdasdasd Posts: 5,686member
    herbapou wrote: »
    I wonder what good are those specs when the iphone 5s completly destroys all the other phones on Geekbench in singlecore, multicore and battery life. 

    Apple needs to publish those figures.
  • Reply 97 of 145
    asdasdasdasd Posts: 5,686member
    Yeah, because at least if they spent more money on advertising they'd have record sales, lines around the block and sell out all inventory. Oh, wait. Never mind.

    I hate this kind of comic book guy sneer masquerading as an argument.
  • Reply 98 of 145

    Let's say Apple goes on to "revolutionize" watches and televisions.

    What will they owe analysts 4 years after that? 

  • Reply 99 of 145
    I believe you will find that Apple only reports phones actually delivered to customers as sales. Inventory is never included.
  • Reply 100 of 145

    CNBC Apple hater in chief, Melissa Less, is also a Blackberry user aka Blackberry loser.

Sign In or Register to comment.