Apple has never had a problem shipping bad displays before. Why stop now?
I've seen everything from dead pixels to fingerprints and debris under the cover glass to nasty looking yellow screens to severe backlight bleeding. At most, maybe one in ten are actually free of noticeable defects.
You've seen enough screens to make this assertion? Bullshit.
Whatever the true story is, there does seem to be a running loop of Apple needing to go back to Samsung for one part or another every single generation.
Until Sharp, LG & whoever else you can mention gets their shit together this will continue to happen.
Sadly it looks like they're too incompetent to do so.
Are they sure apple will using all sort of different spec back panel that all have different electrical condutivity spec on the same product?
correct me if I am wrong that all this back panel will have different characteristic that directly impact on the battery consumption to screen quality.
I mean this will sure cause performance gap from power consumption point of view and image quality across all the IPAD that have different back panel in it. Sounds ridiculous to me.
Numbers wrong... Sharp was 60% and LG was 40% - and it was reported that LG, not Sharp, was having major production issues just a few weeks ago.. and LG, not Sharp, has a reputation for LED Image burn-in. IGZO doesn't tend to have that issue.. So if there are production issues, I tend to believe it's LG, sense they are not using IGZO.. Thats a Sharp technology.
"The source went on to say that although Sharp's LCD burn-in is not visible to the naked eye, the panels cannot be used due to Apple's strict Retina display standards.
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If the human eye cannot detect it; it good enough for the consumer. Let the display production go forward!
And then we'll get endless threads on these forums and others about how people got "defective" screens. The burn in might not be visible immediately, but it would have an effect long-run. It's good that Apple isn't settling for "good enough."
You expect us to believe you've seen all of those firsthand? At least when you make dumb comments- try to make them slightly believable instead of all encompassing.
I've purchased about two dozen iPads and a dozen iPhones since 2010, and have personally seen each of the defects I listed above.
Out of all of those devices only three had no noticeable screen issues, so you do the math.
I'm not blaming Apple. I'm only stating that "perfect" displays are rare, and no one should expect any different just because of some rumor they're delaying the launch until they get all the panels just right. That is what's bullshit.
Seriously guys if they can source screens for the Air, the iPhone, touch and whatever why would the Mini have a problem? Yeah I know it's higher resolution but such screens already exist in the market place. I still think the delay has to be something else.
Apple has never had a problem shipping bad displays before. Why stop now?
I've seen everything from dead pixels to fingerprints and debris under the cover glass to nasty looking yellow screens to severe backlight bleeding. At most, maybe one in ten are actually free of noticeable defects.
Wow, you have been inspecting millions of screens? Or youre are a tech for apple that repair those screens so you see all the bad ones?
Or you could just be another retarded posting garbage, which is a lot more likely...
Seriously, I am getting so annoy by retarded Android geeks with specs fixations that I may beat of crap out of the next geek I see on the street carrying an Android phone.
While Sharp is thought to be Apple's secondary Retina display supplier for the new mini, the company is reportedly responsible for 40 percent of all orders, with LG taking the remaining 60 percent. According to the report, LG is using a different, more common substrate called amorphous silicon, or a-Si, for its TFTs.
Something doesnt add up in this report, LG and Sharp cant be making 2 completly different screen type for the same device... especially since a-SI would consume a more more power than IGZO.
Whatever the true story is, there does seem to be a running loop of Apple needing to go back to Samsung for one part or another every single generation.
Until Sharp, LG & whoever else you can mention gets their shit together this will continue to happen.
Sadly it looks like they're too incompetent to do so.
Maybe Sammy pays the media to leak the alleged info. Put Sammy in a positive light and others in a negative one.
Daddy, the innovative creator of the initial personal computer for the masses, the modern GUI, the mouse, numerous interface standards, the modern MP3 player, the current digital music industry, the best retail experiences in the world, not to mention the best customer service in the world, a company responsible for ALL of today's smartphones, cool, stylish computers for the masses, and the modern tablet industry.
Yeah, "Daddy" has been responsible for a lot of Apple's success.
Ummmm, several companies beat Apple to the personal computer market. Hell, even Altair did it! The modern GUI? Sorry, you're thinkin' Xerox, and the Star Workstation. "Numerous interface standards?" Like what? Dead n' buried Firewire? Perhaps Thunderbolt......or shall I say....Lightpeak, of which Intel owns 100% rights to? The modern MP3 player? Ever seen Sony's NW-series MP3 players? Pocket-sized with an LCD readout, while Apple offered that clunky, ugly, gigantic first-gen iPod. The digital music industry? Debatable. I laugh at your retail experience comment. I won't even go there. Best customer service? According to a study, Apple's customer service satisfaction index plummeted from the 70th percentile to the 50th, just four points ahead of Dell, and were predicted to be dead last if they didn't pull their socks up in 2012. Smartphones? RIM, RIM, RIM, RIM, RIM. And RIM. "Stylish" computers don't mean much when they're weak, overpriced, and dead ended. I'm waiting for Apple to start soldering HDDs down, as well as RAM and CPUs.
Your Kool-Aid is spiked by Cupertino. Toss it down the sink and begin an immediate detox diet.
Whatever the true story is, there does seem to be a running loop of Apple needing to go back to Samsung for one part or another every single generation.
Until Sharp, LG & whoever else you can mention gets their shit together this will continue to happen.
Sadly it looks like they're too incompetent to do so.
I so, so agree. This isn't the first, second, or third time this has happened. It seems like a regular occurrence. Yet Apple continues to bite the hand that feeds.
I've purchased about two dozen iPads and a dozen iPhones since 2010, and have personally seen each of the defects I listed above.
Out of all of those devices only three had no noticeable screen issues, so you do the math.
I'm not blaming Apple. I'm only stating that "perfect" displays are rare, and no one should expect any different just because of some rumor they're delaying the launch until they get all the panels just right. That is what's bullshit.
My wife's iPhone 4S has this really nasty looking discolored burn in the upper-right hand corner of her screen. She can't get rid of it. I'm tempted to buy a magnet and try to pull it out, but I fear damaging the phone. Not that she cares, really. Ever since iOS7 was released, and she noticed that most of the new features are Android copies (not to mention her phone runs like crap now), she's getting a Galaxy S4. But you're right. This myth of superior Apple build quality has got to stop. It's physically impossible, and has been proven to be impossible more times than I care to remember. Count the class-action lawsuits. There's a ton of them.
Ummmm, several companies beat Apple to the personal computer market. Hell, even Altair did it! The modern GUI? Sorry, you're thinkin' Xerox, and the Star Workstation. "Numerous interface standards?" Like what? Dead n' buried Firewire? Perhaps Thunderbolt......or shall I say....Lightpeak, of which Intel owns 100% rights to? The modern MP3 player? Ever seen Sony's NW-series MP3 players? Pocket-sized with an LCD readout, while Apple offered that clunky, ugly, gigantic first-gen iPod. The digital music industry? Debatable. I laugh at your retail experience comment. I won't even go there. Best customer service? According to a study, Apple's customer service satisfaction index plummeted from the 70th percentile to the 50th, just four points ahead of Dell, and were predicted to be dead last if they didn't pull their socks up in 2012. Smartphones? RIM, RIM, RIM, RIM, RIM. And RIM. "Stylish" computers don't mean much when they're weak, overpriced, and dead ended. I'm waiting for Apple to start soldering HDDs down, as well as RAM and CPUs.
Your Kool-Aid is spiked by Cupertino. Toss it down the sink and begin an immediate detox diet.
Blah blah blah. Apple reinvented all those markets so perhaps his wording was incorrect but the fact is Apple saw what was out there and said that's shit and built its own. You can't deny that. Not everything Apple does is inevitable and that Apple coincidentally got there first.
You've seen enough screens to make this assertion? Bullshit.
Reference the double class action lawsuits, two years in a row against Apple for shipping truckloads of iMacs and Macbooks with defective screens and GPUs. The screens were either D.O.A., piss-yellow, skewed, or the GPUs failed. Apple fought tooth and nail to keep from honoring their warranties, enraging legions of Apple customers. The worst part is that these incidents happened in bulk around the Christmas seasons, which made things a whole lot worse. Apple has a rather notorious history when it comes to defective displays.
My wife's iPhone 4S has this really nasty looking discolored burn in the upper-right hand corner of her screen. She can't get rid of it. I'm tempted to buy a magnet and try to pull it out, but I fear damaging the phone. Not that she cares, really. Ever since iOS7 was released, and she noticed that most of the new features are Android copies (not to mention her phone runs like crap now), she's getting a Galaxy S4. But you're right. This myth of superior Apple build quality has got to stop. It's physically impossible, and has been proven to be impossible more times than I care to remember. Count the class-action lawsuits. There's a ton of them.
Hmm....why do I get the feeling this story is BS. But if it's not, I feel bad for your wife stuck with an S4. I have plenty of friends and family running iOS 7 on their iPhone 4S (and 4 even) just fine.
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Until Sharp, LG & whoever else you can mention gets their shit together this will continue to happen.
Sadly it looks like they're too incompetent to do so.
IGZO, a-Si, LTPS?!
Are they sure apple will using all sort of different spec back panel that all have different electrical condutivity spec on the same product?
correct me if I am wrong that all this back panel will have different characteristic that directly impact on the battery consumption to screen quality.
I mean this will sure cause performance gap from power consumption point of view and image quality across all the IPAD that have different back panel in it. Sounds ridiculous to me.
IGZO is also an LG technology.. . . AND a Samsung technology. . . . AND a technology licensed by a few other as yet unnamed companies.
http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/160566/amazons-kindle-fire-hdx-bests-ipad-air-in-display-test/80#post_2431716
"The source went on to say that although Sharp's LCD burn-in is not visible to the naked eye, the panels cannot be used due to Apple's strict Retina display standards.
"
If the human eye cannot detect it; it good enough for the consumer. Let the display production go forward!
And then we'll get endless threads on these forums and others about how people got "defective" screens. The burn in might not be visible immediately, but it would have an effect long-run. It's good that Apple isn't settling for "good enough."
I've purchased about two dozen iPads and a dozen iPhones since 2010, and have personally seen each of the defects I listed above.
Out of all of those devices only three had no noticeable screen issues, so you do the math.
I'm not blaming Apple. I'm only stating that "perfect" displays are rare, and no one should expect any different just because of some rumor they're delaying the launch until they get all the panels just right. That is what's bullshit.
Seriously guys if they can source screens for the Air, the iPhone, touch and whatever why would the Mini have a problem? Yeah I know it's higher resolution but such screens already exist in the market place. I still think the delay has to be something else.
Yeah - trying to avoid buying from Samsung
TIL that Far East means "Korean language publication ETNews".
Apple has never had a problem shipping bad displays before. Why stop now?
I've seen everything from dead pixels to fingerprints and debris under the cover glass to nasty looking yellow screens to severe backlight bleeding. At most, maybe one in ten are actually free of noticeable defects.
Wow, you have been inspecting millions of screens? Or youre are a tech for apple that repair those screens so you see all the bad ones?
Or you could just be another retarded posting garbage, which is a lot more likely...
Seriously, I am getting so annoy by retarded Android geeks with specs fixations that I may beat of crap out of the next geek I see on the street carrying an Android phone.
Something doesnt add up in this report, LG and Sharp cant be making 2 completly different screen type for the same device... especially since a-SI would consume a more more power than IGZO.
Maybe Sammy pays the media to leak the alleged info. Put Sammy in a positive light and others in a negative one.
http://mobile.theverge.com/2013/10/24/5023658/samsung-fined-340000-for-posting-negative-htc-reviews
Ah, yes.
Daddy, the innovative creator of the initial personal computer for the masses, the modern GUI, the mouse, numerous interface standards, the modern MP3 player, the current digital music industry, the best retail experiences in the world, not to mention the best customer service in the world, a company responsible for ALL of today's smartphones, cool, stylish computers for the masses, and the modern tablet industry.
Yeah, "Daddy" has been responsible for a lot of Apple's success.
Ummmm, several companies beat Apple to the personal computer market. Hell, even Altair did it! The modern GUI? Sorry, you're thinkin' Xerox, and the Star Workstation. "Numerous interface standards?" Like what? Dead n' buried Firewire? Perhaps Thunderbolt......or shall I say....Lightpeak, of which Intel owns 100% rights to? The modern MP3 player? Ever seen Sony's NW-series MP3 players? Pocket-sized with an LCD readout, while Apple offered that clunky, ugly, gigantic first-gen iPod. The digital music industry? Debatable. I laugh at your retail experience comment. I won't even go there. Best customer service? According to a study, Apple's customer service satisfaction index plummeted from the 70th percentile to the 50th, just four points ahead of Dell, and were predicted to be dead last if they didn't pull their socks up in 2012. Smartphones? RIM, RIM, RIM, RIM, RIM. And RIM. "Stylish" computers don't mean much when they're weak, overpriced, and dead ended. I'm waiting for Apple to start soldering HDDs down, as well as RAM and CPUs.
Your Kool-Aid is spiked by Cupertino. Toss it down the sink and begin an immediate detox diet.
Whatever the true story is, there does seem to be a running loop of Apple needing to go back to Samsung for one part or another every single generation.
Until Sharp, LG & whoever else you can mention gets their shit together this will continue to happen.
Sadly it looks like they're too incompetent to do so.
I so, so agree. This isn't the first, second, or third time this has happened. It seems like a regular occurrence. Yet Apple continues to bite the hand that feeds.
I've purchased about two dozen iPads and a dozen iPhones since 2010, and have personally seen each of the defects I listed above.
Out of all of those devices only three had no noticeable screen issues, so you do the math.
I'm not blaming Apple. I'm only stating that "perfect" displays are rare, and no one should expect any different just because of some rumor they're delaying the launch until they get all the panels just right. That is what's bullshit.
My wife's iPhone 4S has this really nasty looking discolored burn in the upper-right hand corner of her screen. She can't get rid of it. I'm tempted to buy a magnet and try to pull it out, but I fear damaging the phone. Not that she cares, really. Ever since iOS7 was released, and she noticed that most of the new features are Android copies (not to mention her phone runs like crap now), she's getting a Galaxy S4. But you're right. This myth of superior Apple build quality has got to stop. It's physically impossible, and has been proven to be impossible more times than I care to remember. Count the class-action lawsuits. There's a ton of them.
Blah blah blah. Apple reinvented all those markets so perhaps his wording was incorrect but the fact is Apple saw what was out there and said that's shit and built its own. You can't deny that. Not everything Apple does is inevitable and that Apple coincidentally got there first.
You've seen enough screens to make this assertion? Bullshit.
Reference the double class action lawsuits, two years in a row against Apple for shipping truckloads of iMacs and Macbooks with defective screens and GPUs. The screens were either D.O.A., piss-yellow, skewed, or the GPUs failed. Apple fought tooth and nail to keep from honoring their warranties, enraging legions of Apple customers. The worst part is that these incidents happened in bulk around the Christmas seasons, which made things a whole lot worse. Apple has a rather notorious history when it comes to defective displays.