Moto have already pioneered ahem the mobile phone,& the granddaddy of wearables (motoactv) which came in a bundle that included a heart rate monitor which I'd bet one is embedded in the 360, already better battery life in the form of a combination of amoled/ active display already in use on the x plus it's just coming from arguably the battery life masters...
& trusted Bluetooth keeps your device unlocked when in proximity of other paired devices you own.... Though this feature will be obsolete with the 360 cox you'll never need to get your phone out of your pocket let alone unlock it anymore
& the only thing ifanboys have to wank over are some ifanboys generated dream images?
Anything else?
It would appear the reason apple are taking so long with their rebuttal is because the bar keeps getting raised on them
Best just add another gimmick to & release another iPhone
It helps if you don't approach other users in such an aggressive tone. There is a lot of fluff that could be filtered out of this post. If you wanted to have a reasonable discussion there are users on this board that are most capable of doing so. If not then you're free to move along.
The Motorola effort doesn't look too bad, but my bet is on e-ink being involved if there is an Apple wrist device on the way.
Colour e-ink is not seen in production yet.... but the greyscale e-ink requires power only when screen image needs changing, so would reduce power needed dramatically (with low power bluetooth).
Take the idea of an automatic wristwatch - and use human movement to power an electric generator to reduce or completely remove charging issues...
I've posted a pic of this watch before - it has lcd screen, but has an elctrical generating and storage system, and has decent surface available for screen(s)...
It would appear the reason apple are taking so long with their rebuttal is because the bar keeps getting raised on them
You don't appear to be aware of how Apple releases product to market and how much prep work they do. As far as raising the bar, what bar are you talking about exactly?
I pretty much have bought into every product category with an Apple logo with the exception of the new Mac Pro. If Apple released a smart watch today with equivalent features offered today on Samsung, LG and Motorola and a beautiful enclose, I frankly would have no interest in buying it. I see no bar or anything compelling enough to spark my interest. IMHO, these guys have no idea what they are doing in creating a compelling and disruptive new product category and they will be rewarded accordingly. Its a fail.
let me know which wristwatch product you will be buying. Samsung, LG or Motorola. I am thinking, none of these because they are not compelling enough to spend good money on for other than curiosity.
The Motorola effort doesn't look too bad, but my bet is on e-ink being involved if there is an Apple wrist device on the way.
Colour e-ink is not seen in production yet.... but the greyscale e-ink requires power only when screen image needs changing, so would reduce power needed dramatically (with low power bluetooth).
Take the idea of an automatic wristwatch - and use human movement to power an electric generator to reduce or completely remove charging issues...
I've posted a pic of this watch before - it has lcd screen, but has an elctrical generating and storage system, and has decent surface available for screen(s)...
It helps if you don't approach other users in such an aggressive tone. There is a lot of fluff that could be filtered out of this post. If you wanted to have a reasonable discussion there are users on this board that are most capable of doing so. If not then you're free to move along.
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It was to my understanding he was addressing the issue of power consumption and suggesting some solutions to that problem.
thanks WS11. I got that much. I was just wanting to step back, before we even got to this level of technical detail. I want to make sure we have a strong marketing case, before we even go about selecting components. What need is wristwatch product filling that a smart phone is not? What makes it disruptive, why do we even need it?
It helps if you don't approach other users in such an aggressive tone. There is a lot of fluff that could be filtered out of this post. If you wanted to have a reasonable discussion there are users on this board that are most capable of doing so. If not then you're free to move along.
I like how you’re fine with taking more time doing the exact same thing I do in five words, but my five aren’t okay. " src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />
I just figured you ran out of patience 10000 some posts ago.
I just figured you ran out of patience 10000 some posts ago.
Said to myself, “Self, they don’t care about what they’re posting, and they don’t care about being wrong. Why should I put the time and effort into dismantling each one of their arguments? We know it’s a troll; all that matters it that it knows we know, too.”
Said to myself, “Self, they don’t care about what they’re posting, and they don’t care about being wrong. Why should I put the time and effort into dismantling each one of their arguments? We know it’s a troll; all that matters it that it knows we know, too.”
Precisely; 'shut up etc' is more polite than they deserve. It's a big, bad world out there.
Said to myself, “Self, they don’t care about what they’re posting, and they don’t care about being wrong. Why should I put the time and effort into dismantling each one of their arguments? We know it’s a troll; all that matters it that it knows we know, too.”
Precisely; 'shut up etc' is more polite than they deserve. It's a big, bad world out there.
I like that. "shut up etc" cute. or the polite form "shut up, etc. please and thank you"
Done done & done!
Moto have already pioneered ahem the mobile phone,& the granddaddy of wearables (motoactv) which came in a bundle that included a heart rate monitor which I'd bet one is embedded in the 360, already better battery life in the form of a combination of amoled/ active display already in use on the x plus it's just coming from arguably the battery life masters...
& trusted Bluetooth keeps your device unlocked when in proximity of other paired devices you own.... Though this feature will be obsolete with the 360 cox you'll never need to get your phone out of your pocket let alone unlock it anymore
& the only thing ifanboys have to wank over are some ifanboys generated dream images?
Anything else?
It would appear the reason apple are taking so long with their rebuttal is because the bar keeps getting raised on them
Best just add another gimmick to & release another iPhone
If everything I mentioned is done then where the specs? Where are actual people demoing the actual device? Where is there even a price point considering the last time they did a round display it was a piece of shit and cost $2,000?
It helps if you don't approach other users in such an aggressive tone. There is a lot of fluff that could be filtered out of this post. If you wanted to have a reasonable discussion there are users on this board that are most capable of doing so. If not then you're free to move along.
You see, this troll doesn't deserve the time of day, and yet you're treating him with kid sticks. You're not his Daddy. Best thing is to either ignore, fire back with a pithy remark or flag. He'll either have to have a conversion or get banned. Probably he'll crawl back to his swamp.
I agree...All I want really from Apple is a Heart Rate Monitor on my wrist. Designed by Apple with Apple's customary top-notch software.
As a distance trail runner, it is imperative I stay in a fat burning zone which is a certain heart rate (180-age). So right now, my running HR is 125BPM and my mile times are around 14'/mile (pretty slow).
But, 4 months ago my times were 18'/mile at the same HR.
In another 12-18 months, my HR will still be 125 but my times will be around 7'-9'/mile. All the while burning fat not sugar.
The human body (Liver, blood, muscles), has about 90 minutes of energy (Anaerobic). But even the fittest olympic athlete with <5% body fat has enough stored energy (fat) to run a 1,000 miles. All I want to run is 50 miles.
A little known fact, is that one of the keys to human success is we have the ability to outrun just about every animal on the planet!
Sorry, probably should post this on a different site!
Best.
Not at all! A little circumstantiality can be interesting. I too am really hoping for an integrated heart rate monitor on Apple's wearable, as well as an O2 sat. I'm always curious how low it gets when I'm exercising; I assume there's probably an ideal range to be in for exercise. Also it'd be great for sleep analysis. FYI, ever since you mentioned the kale smoothies a while back I've been integrating them into my (almost) daily routine, and they're great! However, I do draw the line at measuring my poo.. I don't need to be that healthy! lol
This as in that device you quoted or this as in wearable electronics as a market?
this as in what is being offered thus far as a "smartwatch" from any vendor. I have seen nothing which makes me jump out of my chair and scream "yes, yes!!!! I need that!! and I need it now!!!" Instead, all I get is "why???!!!??? why??!! and huh????"
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Done done & done!
Moto have already pioneered ahem the mobile phone,& the granddaddy of wearables (motoactv) which came in a bundle that included a heart rate monitor which I'd bet one is embedded in the 360, already better battery life in the form of a combination of amoled/ active display already in use on the x plus it's just coming from arguably the battery life masters...
& trusted Bluetooth keeps your device unlocked when in proximity of other paired devices you own.... Though this feature will be obsolete with the 360 cox you'll never need to get your phone out of your pocket let alone unlock it anymore
& the only thing ifanboys have to wank over are some ifanboys generated dream images?
Anything else?
It would appear the reason apple are taking so long with their rebuttal is because the bar keeps getting raised on them
Best just add another gimmick to & release another iPhone
It helps if you don't approach other users in such an aggressive tone. There is a lot of fluff that could be filtered out of this post. If you wanted to have a reasonable discussion there are users on this board that are most capable of doing so. If not then you're free to move along.
The Motorola effort doesn't look too bad, but my bet is on e-ink being involved if there is an Apple wrist device on the way.
Colour e-ink is not seen in production yet.... but the greyscale e-ink requires power only when screen image needs changing, so would reduce power needed dramatically (with low power bluetooth).
Take the idea of an automatic wristwatch - and use human movement to power an electric generator to reduce or completely remove charging issues...
I've posted a pic of this watch before - it has lcd screen, but has an elctrical generating and storage system, and has decent surface available for screen(s)...
Fixed for you.
It would appear the reason apple are taking so long with their rebuttal is because the bar keeps getting raised on them
You don't appear to be aware of how Apple releases product to market and how much prep work they do. As far as raising the bar, what bar are you talking about exactly?
I pretty much have bought into every product category with an Apple logo with the exception of the new Mac Pro. If Apple released a smart watch today with equivalent features offered today on Samsung, LG and Motorola and a beautiful enclose, I frankly would have no interest in buying it. I see no bar or anything compelling enough to spark my interest. IMHO, these guys have no idea what they are doing in creating a compelling and disruptive new product category and they will be rewarded accordingly. Its a fail.
let me know which wristwatch product you will be buying. Samsung, LG or Motorola. I am thinking, none of these because they are not compelling enough to spend good money on for other than curiosity.
The Motorola effort doesn't look too bad, but my bet is on e-ink being involved if there is an Apple wrist device on the way.
Colour e-ink is not seen in production yet.... but the greyscale e-ink requires power only when screen image needs changing, so would reduce power needed dramatically (with low power bluetooth).
Take the idea of an automatic wristwatch - and use human movement to power an electric generator to reduce or completely remove charging issues...
I've posted a pic of this watch before - it has lcd screen, but has an elctrical generating and storage system, and has decent surface available for screen(s)...
question remains. Why is this even needed?
question remains. Why is this even needed?
It was to my understanding he was addressing the issue of power consumption and suggesting some solutions to that problem.
I like how you’re fine with taking more time doing the exact same thing I do in five words, but my five aren’t okay. " src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />
question remains. Why is this even needed?
It was to my understanding he was addressing the issue of power consumption and suggesting some solutions to that problem.
thanks WS11. I got that much. I was just wanting to step back, before we even got to this level of technical detail. I want to make sure we have a strong marketing case, before we even go about selecting components. What need is wristwatch product filling that a smart phone is not? What makes it disruptive, why do we even need it?
I like how you’re fine with taking more time doing the exact same thing I do in five words, but my five aren’t okay. " src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />
I just figured you ran out of patience 10000 some posts ago.
Said to myself, “Self, they don’t care about what they’re posting, and they don’t care about being wrong. Why should I put the time and effort into dismantling each one of their arguments? We know it’s a troll; all that matters it that it knows we know, too.”
Precisely; 'shut up etc' is more polite than they deserve. It's a big, bad world out there.
Said to myself, “Self, they don’t care about what they’re posting, and they don’t care about being wrong. Why should I put the time and effort into dismantling each one of their arguments? We know it’s a troll; all that matters it that it knows we know, too.”
Precisely; 'shut up etc' is more polite than they deserve. It's a big, bad world out there.
I like that. "shut up etc" cute. or the polite form "shut up, etc. please and thank you"
If everything I mentioned is done then where the specs? Where are actual people demoing the actual device? Where is there even a price point considering the last time they did a round display it was a piece of shit and cost $2,000?
the last time they did a round display it was a piece of shit
don't hold back SolipsismX, tell us what you really think.
I thought this was the polite way…
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You see, this troll doesn't deserve the time of day, and yet you're treating him with kid sticks. You're not his Daddy. Best thing is to either ignore, fire back with a pithy remark or flag. He'll either have to have a conversion or get banned. Probably he'll crawl back to his swamp.
I agree...All I want really from Apple is a Heart Rate Monitor on my wrist. Designed by Apple with Apple's customary top-notch software.
As a distance trail runner, it is imperative I stay in a fat burning zone which is a certain heart rate (180-age). So right now, my running HR is 125BPM and my mile times are around 14'/mile (pretty slow).
But, 4 months ago my times were 18'/mile at the same HR.
In another 12-18 months, my HR will still be 125 but my times will be around 7'-9'/mile. All the while burning fat not sugar.
The human body (Liver, blood, muscles), has about 90 minutes of energy (Anaerobic). But even the fittest olympic athlete with <5% body fat has enough stored energy (fat) to run a 1,000 miles. All I want to run is 50 miles.
A little known fact, is that one of the keys to human success is we have the ability to outrun just about every animal on the planet!
Sorry, probably should post this on a different site!
Best.
Not at all! A little circumstantiality can be interesting. I too am really hoping for an integrated heart rate monitor on Apple's wearable, as well as an O2 sat. I'm always curious how low it gets when I'm exercising; I assume there's probably an ideal range to be in for exercise. Also it'd be great for sleep analysis. FYI, ever since you mentioned the kale smoothies a while back I've been integrating them into my (almost) daily routine, and they're great! However, I do draw the line at measuring my poo.. I don't need to be that healthy! lol
question remains. Why is this even needed?
For me... it isn't needed at all.
Mind you, my phone is 'dumb'... no bluetooth even. It is a phone. It's about the size of two fingers - the width and length and thickness.
Found a pic of it... can't believe the original battery still works
This as in that device you quoted or this as in wearable electronics as a market?
question remains. Why is this even needed?
This as in that device you quoted or this as in wearable electronics as a market?
this as in what is being offered thus far as a "smartwatch" from any vendor. I have seen nothing which makes me jump out of my chair and scream "yes, yes!!!! I need that!! and I need it now!!!" Instead, all I get is "why???!!!??? why??!! and huh????"