Apart that if you don't use Google services you can use other Stores and cloud services if you set up a Google account, ad and location services are opt in.
What do you mean by opt in? Am I asked when I first turn on the phone? Does the procedure tell me what data is being collected & what is being done with it if I opt in? What about Samsung's (or whoever) privacy options are they different? Does the os itself collect personal data?
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Originally Posted by Gwydion
Apart that if you don't use Google services you can use other Stores and cloud services if you set up a Google account, ad and location services are opt in.
If I don't use Google services what do I need a Google account for? One point, one of these 2 companies subverted users privacy settings to collect data & track user browsing habits on software they did not own...it wasn't Apple.
If I don't use Google services what do I need a Google account for?
You need a Google account to get software updates from Google Play, just like you need an Apple account to get updates from the App Store. Note that "software" here can include system components, such as the keyboard, which are actually modular apps updated through Google Play.
You need a Google account to get software updates from Google Play, just like you need an Apple account to get updates from the App Store. Note that "software" here can include system components, such as the keyboard, which are actually modular apps updated through Google Play.
What do you mean by opt in? Am I asked when I first turn on the phone? Does the procedure tell me what data is being collected & what is being done with it if I opt in?
Exactly this, when you set up a Google account it gives you the option to collect location data. And Google Play store give you the option to use the data to send you recomendations. No, Android in itself don't collect data
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Originally Posted by Splif
If I don't use Google services what do I need a Google account for?
I was answering the claim that if you don't use a Google account the smartphone is a dumb one but this is not true, you can install other stores and user other cloud services.
Exactly this, when you set up a Google account it gives you the option to collect location data. And Google Play store give you the option to use the data to send you recomendations. No, Android in itself don't collect data
I was answering the claim that if you don't use a Google account the smartphone is a dumb one but this is not true, you can install other stores and user other cloud services.
How do you know Android doesn't collect data? Does Samsung have it's own data collection policy & what makes Google a trustworthy company as I sad one of these 2 companies subverted users privacy settings to collect data & track user browsing habits on software they did not own...it wasn't Apple. Why would I trust any privacy policy from a company that would do what I just mentioned.
<div class="quote-container" data-huddler-embed="/t/164458/how-android-lost-global-open-market-share-to-apples-integrated-ios/200#post_2495001" data-huddler-embed-placeholder="false">Quote:<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Gwydion</strong> <a href="/t/164458/how-android-lost-global-open-market-share-to-apples-integrated-ios/200#post_2495001"><img alt="View Post" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" /></a><br /> <p> </p><p>Exactly this, when you set up a Google account it gives you the option to collect location data. And Google Play store give you the option to use the data to send you recomendations. No, Android in itself don't collect data</p><p> </p><p>I was answering the claim that if you don't use a Google account the smartphone is a dumb one but this is not true, you can install other stores and user other cloud services.</p></div></div><p>How do you know Android doesn't collect data? Does Samsung have it's own data collection policy & what makes Google a trustworthy company as I sad <em style="color:rgb(24, 24, 24)">one of these 2 companies subverted users privacy settings to collect data & track user browsing habits on software they did not own</em><span style="color:rgb(24, 24, 24)">...it wasn't Apple. Why would I trust any privacy policy from a company that would do what I just mentioned.</span></p>
using your example why would you trust any company including Apple. As of yet Apple havent been found subverting user privacy settings. That doesn't mean they havent been in the past or will in the future.....:eek: Of course its all tin foil hat time.
As an Android user, I never visit sites like these, but this seemed interesting. Let's not forget that Apple products (mobile) are niche. Perhaps not in the US, but certainly outside.iPad Mini and iPhone 5C are released because of the market Android created.
Please tell me why you have an iPhone. I'm truly interested.
I really don’t see how that’s relevant to the point you’re trying to make.
Half of all smartphones sold are iPhones. Despite a dozen companies with 300 models competing in the other half. “Despite” its screen size, which, again, ~50% of the market has absolutely no problem with whatsoever. Half of the entire market is a niche?
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So here we are, back to the danger of side loading trojans from untrusted sources.
Yes, Amazon Appstore, a great source of malware
Hard to disagree with such a reasoned post. Well done sir.
means nothing coming from a you. Anyways, you have always had a bit of google on your chin.
By the way, seeing you get owned on these forum all the time has gotten old.
Apart that if you don't use Google services you can use other Stores and cloud services if you set up a Google account, ad and location services are opt in.
What do you mean by opt in? Am I asked when I first turn on the phone? Does the procedure tell me what data is being collected & what is being done with it if I opt in? What about Samsung's (or whoever) privacy options are they different? Does the os itself collect personal data?
Apart that if you don't use Google services you can use other Stores and cloud services if you set up a Google account, ad and location services are opt in.
If I don't use Google services what do I need a Google account for? One point, one of these 2 companies subverted users privacy settings to collect data & track user browsing habits on software they did not own...it wasn't Apple.
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Apparently Apple stole some of these, got sued and paid out lots of cash to Creative.
Apparently Apple stole some of these, got sued and paid out lots of cash to Creative.
Which ones?
If I don't use Google services what do I need a Google account for?
You need a Google account to get software updates from Google Play, just like you need an Apple account to get updates from the App Store. Note that "software" here can include system components, such as the keyboard, which are actually modular apps updated through Google Play.
You need a Google account to get software updates from Google Play, just like you need an Apple account to get updates from the App Store. Note that "software" here can include system components, such as the keyboard, which are actually modular apps updated through Google Play.
Don't need Android.
Don't need Google play.
Don't need Google.
I know, shocking isn't it?
What do you mean by opt in? Am I asked when I first turn on the phone? Does the procedure tell me what data is being collected & what is being done with it if I opt in?
Exactly this, when you set up a Google account it gives you the option to collect location data. And Google Play store give you the option to use the data to send you recomendations. No, Android in itself don't collect data
If I don't use Google services what do I need a Google account for?
I was answering the claim that if you don't use a Google account the smartphone is a dumb one but this is not true, you can install other stores and user other cloud services.
Exactly this, when you set up a Google account it gives you the option to collect location data. And Google Play store give you the option to use the data to send you recomendations. No, Android in itself don't collect data
I was answering the claim that if you don't use a Google account the smartphone is a dumb one but this is not true, you can install other stores and user other cloud services.
How do you know Android doesn't collect data? Does Samsung have it's own data collection policy & what makes Google a trustworthy company as I sad one of these 2 companies subverted users privacy settings to collect data & track user browsing habits on software they did not own...it wasn't Apple. Why would I trust any privacy policy from a company that would do what I just mentioned.
No. Sorry. Now go back to never visiting sites like these.
AHA HA HA HA HA HA HA! Remarkable.
Oh, you’ve just made my day. That’s so rich.
I really don’t see how that’s relevant to the point you’re trying to make.
Half of all smartphones sold are iPhones. Despite a dozen companies with 300 models competing in the other half. “Despite” its screen size, which, again, ~50% of the market has absolutely no problem with whatsoever. Half of the entire market is a niche?
Half of all smartphones sold are iPhones.
Where? In your street? In case you mean US, didn't I say they're not niche in US? Yes I did.
...because Android is so far behind, they don't even offer 64 bit
Worldwide most Android phones sold are cheap, small screened junk.