Samsung sues newspaper for $284k over negative reports on Galaxy S5

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  • Reply 41 of 81
    copelandcopeland Posts: 298member

    Just an advice for Samsung:

    "Innovate don't litigate!!"

    :smokey:

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  • Reply 42 of 81
    aaronjaaronj Posts: 1,595member
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    Originally Posted by Young View Post

     

    EE Times was saying that samsung will have hard time to get a hands on enough 16MP camera modules for S5 due to very low yield.  I didn't read the whole article but that is basically what head line is saying. It seems like very reasonable concern.   


     

    Thanks.

     

    Though that hardly seems like something Samsung could sue over.

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  • Reply 43 of 81
    hametahameta Posts: 79member
  • Reply 44 of 81
    slurpyslurpy Posts: 5,398member
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    Speaking of the Galaxy S5, AnandTech has posted their review. I would have thought that a brand new, 2.45GHz Snapdragon 801 processor arriving more than 6 months after the iPhone 5S launched would have faired better with raw performance tests. They also seems to be making it bigger and heavier despite the display size being effectively static.

     

    Interesting how the 5S wipes the floor with it on quite a few tests, with half the cores and half the RAM, and having been released 6 months earlier, when mobile CPUs are improving so quickly. Says alot about the A7 chip. The A8 is going to be ridiculous. 

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  • Reply 45 of 81
    rayzrayz Posts: 814member
    young wrote: »
    EE Times was saying that samsung will have hard time to get a hands on enough 16MP camera modules for S5 due to very low yield.  I didn't read the whole article but that is basically what head line is saying. It seems like very reasonable concern.   

    They're sueing … for that? Wow.
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  • Reply 46 of 81
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    slurpy wrote: »
    Interesting how the 5S wipes the floor with it on quite a few tests, with half the cores and half the RAM. 

    1) And nearly 1/2 the CPU speed. At least it beats the iPhone in most of the battery tests but that's expected with the size (and increase size YoY) of the battery. I did find a couple things impressive on their review. One, the Galaxy S5 uses much less power than the Galaxy S4 for comparable tests. Two, the charging time has been significantly reduced (under 2 hours) which is better than the iPhone despite the Galaxy G5 having a huge battery that even grow in size over the Galaxy S4. That said, I do wonder if that 5.3V/2A charger will burn out any components over time or cause the device to get very hot when charging.

    2) If Apple releases a larger screened iPhone I have doubt that it will be able to wipe the floor with any of these Android devices and increase its lead in performance even more as they advance their A-chips and other HW.
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  • Reply 47 of 81
    slurpyslurpy Posts: 5,398member
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    They're sueing … for that? Wow.

     

    Wow indeed. That's nowhere NEAR the negative tone of most Apple hit-pieces that are published daily. Fucking Samsung, despicable. 

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  • Reply 48 of 81
    ScamScum needs to make money somehow.
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  • Reply 49 of 81
    crossladcrosslad Posts: 527member
    imember wrote: »
    here a false report about the iPhone 5 

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPhone_5

    Benchmark tests conducted by UK consumer magazine <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Which?" style="background-image:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);" target="_blank" title="Which?">Which?</a>
     in June 2013, comparing the iPhone 5 and other smart phones in the same class such as the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_One_(2013)" style="background-image:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);" target="_blank" title="HTC One (2013)">HTC One</a>
    <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S_4" style="background-image:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);" target="_blank" title="Samsung Galaxy S 4">Samsung Galaxy S 4</a>
     and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LG_Nexus_4" style="background-image:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);" target="_blank" title="LG Nexus 4">LG Nexus 4</a>
     have consistently found the iPhone to be the slowest

    Would those results be with Samsung over locking the CPU during benchmark tests or not?

    Back on the subject of bad press, what about Samsung employing students to post negative reviews about HTC. Samsung is an unethical company and my two biggest regrets are that I own a Samsung net book and a Galaxy Tab 2 7. These are the last Samsung branded products I will ever own.
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  • Reply 50 of 81
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    crosslad wrote: »
    Would those results be with Samsung over locking the CPU during benchmark tests or not?

    Back on the subject of bad press, what about Samsung employing students to post negative results about HTC. Samsung is an unethical company and my two biggest regrets are that I own a Samsung net book and a Galaxy Tab 2 7. These are the last Samsung branded products I will ever own.

    The doping for the benchmark tests adds very little improvement to the overall performance but says a lot about the vendor's moral fiber which, to me, makes it illogical that they would have 1) ever thought the pros outweigh the cons, and 2) that they are still doing it (although I don't recall any mention of it for the Galaxy S5 in AnandTech's review).
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  • Reply 51 of 81
    lerxtlerxt Posts: 186member
    Haha. Pretty funny.

    NSA.
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  • Reply 52 of 81
    This is why I'll never buy anything made by Samsung ever. Yes, it matters.
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  • Reply 53 of 81
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    jungmark wrote: »
    Looks like Verizon already has a BOGO for the GS5 planned.

    They absolutely do. Saw the ad on TV last night. I'm guessing it's to compete with the BOGO offer for the new HTC One.
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  • Reply 54 of 81
    dysamoriadysamoria Posts: 3,430member
    What a desperate attempt to make a Samsung story into an Apple story.

    The pro-Apple bias here is more annoying than usual for you, Apple Insider.
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  • Reply 55 of 81
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,769member
    solipsismx wrote: »
    The doping for the benchmark tests adds very little improvement to the overall performance but says a lot about the vendor's moral fiber which, to me, makes it illogical that they would have 1) ever thought the pros outweigh the cons, and 2) that they are still doing it (although I don't recall any mention of it for the Galaxy S5 in AnandTech's review).

    Someone mentioned they didn't do it with the S5 and thought it was Anandtech.

    EDIT: Can't find reference to it immediately.

    EDIT2: It was Ars that discovered it
    http://www.ibtimes.com/samsung-will-play-fair-galaxy-benchmarks-android-44-kitkat-update-1559960
    http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/03/samsungs-kitkat-update-seems-to-remove-benchmark-boosting-shenanigans/2/
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  • Reply 56 of 81
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    solipsismx wrote: »
    The doping for the benchmark tests adds very little improvement to the overall performance but says a lot about the vendor's moral fiber which, to me, makes it illogical that they would have 1) ever thought the pros outweigh the cons, and 2) that they are still doing it (although I don't recall any mention of it for the Galaxy S5 in AnandTech's review).

    I got into a big discussion with the late jragosta over this. He insisted that cheating would lead to more sales, my contention was that increased sales would be minimal, and sale losses would be greater if they were ever caught.
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  • Reply 57 of 81
    swissmac2swissmac2 Posts: 216member
    So, Samsung is OK with free speech when they want to ruin someone else's reputation, but not when it's about them? Not just content with stealing Apple's intellectual property, they also seem to have no regard for the truth either. They like to give it but they can't take it.

    Says a lot about the personalities controlling Samsung.
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  • Reply 58 of 81
    dasanman69 wrote: »
    I got into a big discussion with the late jragosta over this. He insisted that cheating would lead to more sales, my contention was that increased sales would be minimal, and sale losses would be greater if they were ever caught.

    I tend to agree. If you buy a phone because of benchmarks, you'll probably know about the cheating (it was widely reported by the benchmarking sites), but unless the lab that does the benchmark adjusts for it (or punishes by delisting), what will probably happen is that a sound bite will emerge: "Samsung = fastest" because people have an annoying tendency to lose details and keep only a snippet--a conclusion--from those data-heavy benchmark article. That is, some people will literally glance at a bar chart showing Samsung with the best score and come away with that, out of context.
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  • Reply 59 of 81
    swissmac2 wrote: »
    So, Samsung is OK with free speech when they want to ruin someone else's reputation, but not when it's about them? Not just content with stealing Apple's intellectual property, they also seem to have no regard for the truth either. They like to give it but they can't take it.

    Says a lot about the personalities controlling Samsung.

    Apple sues over right and wrong.
    Samsung sues to manipulate public perception.
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  • Reply 60 of 81
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    I tend to agree. If you buy a phone because of benchmarks, you'll probably know about the cheating (it was widely reported by the benchmarking sites), but unless the lab that does the benchmark adjusts for it (or punishes by delisting), what will probably happen is that a sound bite will emerge: "Samsung = fastest" because people have an annoying tendency to lose details and keep only a snippet--a conclusion--from those data-heavy benchmark article. That is, some people will literally glance at a bar chart showing Samsung with the best score and come away with that, out of context.

    I agree with that, but my thing is how many people will choose a phone because it's 'faster' than another? A few hundred thousand at best. It'll be taken into a consideration, but not a deciding factor.
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