And what battery life was sacrificed when the device is more power efficient and has an increased battery capacity resulting in longer duration of use for the same tasks?
The better battery life that would have resulted if they didn't choose to reduce the thickness, which is the single most criticized feature by the 5000+ users of the iPhone where I work.
We don't want any critcism of Apple here, and people who criticizes Apple should not be not be allowed to buy their products. Have myself had all generations of Macs since the SE, and a handful of iPhone models, but obviously I have never experienced anything other than perfectionism.
There's a difference between legitimate criticism and "concern trolling".
I don't see how somebody could criticize Apple for increasing the battery life on the next iPhone compared to the previous models.
Hilarious! Does Apple have some magic pixie dust it sprinkles over iPhone batteries to give them a certain capacity independent of their size. Of course not. A smaller case means smaller space for a battery and thus a lower capacity battery.
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Hilarious! Apple has been granted several battery technology patents. Not for "pixie dust" but for real-world, practical improvements to battery charing, packaging, and yes, battery shape (e.g. the curved battery patent possibly for "iWatch.") Copycats like Samsung will need to go back to the drawing board instead of the copy machine.
And, as we all know, Apple constantly improves their Ax chip line. The 64-bit A7 will evolve into a faster and more energy-efficient A8 this year. Guaranteed.
Criticizing the anemic (compared to others) battery capacity in iPhones is about the best way around to bring out the Apple fanboys.
Criticizing the battery capacity in iPhones is about the only thing for Samsung trolls (paid and unpaid) to nitpick about any more. Remember when the trolls used to brag about droidphone specs? Yeah, the GHz, GB, "dual core Tegra 2 chipset" (that your wife will love), OLED, and all that techno-marketing-babble? Well that's all dead and gone.
The instant a troll bring up specs, all we need to do is type those six little keystrokes: "64-bit".
BOOM.
Then there were the "standing in line" TV ads. With the pizzicato string musical cues to tell the audience to expect humor, the techno-ignorant hipsters standing in line, droid users banging their phones together, and the Starbucks-toting ex-hippies showing up late. Well guess what. Nobody cared. iPhone line-waiters gonna line-wait. Snarky anti-Apple ads gonna be ignored. iPhones gonna sell. Online and brick-and-mortar.
Now we have the "wall hugger" ad. Showing that people will do anything to avoid Android.
And just barely 2.5 months before "iPhone 6" is released with bigger battery and (presumably) improved A8 efficiency.
And (as rumored) at least one bigger screen size.
And with massive improvements to iCloud (as described at WWDC last month).
And with iOS 8 with HomeKit for smart home integration, along with many other iOS 8 improvements.
Funny that Google barely even mentioned Android at last months' I/O conference.
Maybe they're giving up on Android. Precious little money they're making from it anyway.
(And yes, folks, Android has been stuck at 4.x since 2011. An eternity.)
I wonder what Samsung's marketing group will be reduced to advertising next year.
What new lows will they be forced to stoop to? Any ideas?
With the new iPhone 6 & iPad Air coming out I better sell my old iPhone & iPad before the value of it drops. I usually search 8-13 different sites to find the best offer, but I just found this company that compares all the buyback companies in one spot. it%u2019s called http://www.recomhub.com.
It%u2019s like Kayak but for Apple Devices that show you all the offers in one spot.
Apple may be planning to trade battery capacity for slimness in its next-generation handsets, according to a Monday report from the Far East, with the hotly-anticipated 4.7-inch "iPhone 6" said to pack an 1,800 mAh unit and its 5.5-inch sibling bringing a 2,500 mAh reserve.
If true, the more diminutive device would receive a battery capacity bump significantly larger than the 8 percent jump between the iPhone 5 and the current-generation iPhone 5s, likely attributable to the increased power demands of the larger display. The report was first <a href="http://mobile.it168.com/a2014/0707/1642/000001642740.shtml">published</a> by Chinese technology website <em>IT168.</em>
The stated 2,500 mAh capacity of the widely-rumored 5.5-inch "phablet" variant, meanwhile, would be an increase of 60 percent from the iPhone 5s. Despite the seemingly substantial increases, they would place Apple's offerings behind similarly-sized devices from rivals like Samsung and Motorola.
Samsung's flagship Galaxy S5, for instance, sports a 2,800 mAh battery alongside a 5.1-inch display. Motorola's Moto X packs a 2,200 mAh battery with its own 4.7-inch screen.
One reason Apple might consider such a move would be as part of a strategy to slim down the next-generation devices, as larger-capacity batteries bring with them a corresponding increase in size -- the Galaxy S5, despite a larger frame in which to place the battery, is still thicker than the iPhone 5s. The Cupertino company could also have designed a much more power-efficient architecture, thanks to their impressive vertical integration, that would allow runtime to remain the same despite the lessened power reserve.
Ok, I'm thoroughly convinced that most of the people replying to this read the article incorrectly (mostly because it was written confusingly poor). Apple IS increasing the battery life. Also, for those of you that have an issue with your current iphone, you must be using an iphone 5 or earlier. My wife and many friends I know have an iphone 5 and get terrible life (about 3 hrs actual usage). With my iphone 5S, I get an average of 7. I have gone 2 days without looking for a charger while I use it frequently (not for gaming or video though). Everyone I know with an S4 is constantly plugged into the wall. I'm really looking forward to the iphone 6
With the new iPhone 6 & iPad Air coming out I better sell my old iPhone & iPad before the value of it drops. I usually search 8-15 different sites to find the best offer, but I just found this company that compares all the buyback companies in one spot. it%u2019s called http://www.recomhub.com.
It%u2019s like Kayak but for Apple Devices that show you all the offers in one spot.
There's a difference between legitimate criticism and "concern trolling".
I don't see how somebody could criticize Apple for increasing the battery life on the next iPhone compared to the previous models.
I call BS on those people.
I totally agree that critics and trolling are two distinctly different things. However occationally some people on this site may be a little short sighted in their support of everything Apple chooses. All design is choices and priorities, and priorities changes over time. People use their iPhones much more heavily now than when it was introduced. When I had my first iPhone, my reaction was that the phone was HUGE, I currently use a 4 and a 5, and I was shocked by how much I felt the 0.5 inch larger screen improved the product because my way of using the phone had totally changed. It has been a large mistake by Apple not to provide a larger phone before now. I was a short time ago in the situation that I had to buy a new phone for one of my sons, he totally refused a phone with such a small screen, and I had to buy an android to him! However I totally refused to buy a Samsung, there has to be some principles that can't be broken!
I totally agree that critics and trolling are two distinctly different things. However occationally some people on this site may be a little short sighted in their support of everything Apple chooses. All design is choices and priorities, and priorities changes over time. People use their iPhones much more heavily now than when it was introduced. When I had my first iPhone, my reaction was that the phone was HUGE, I currently use a 4 and a 5, and I was shocked by how much I felt the 0.5 inch larger screen improved the product because my way of using the phone had totally changed. It has been a large mistake by Apple not to provide a larger phone before now. I was a short time ago in the situation that I had to buy a new phone for one of my sons, he totally refused a phone with such a small screen, and I had to buy an android to him! However I totally refused to buy a Samsung, there has to be some principles that can't be broken!
Well, this is the year that Apple finally seems to be introducing two new, larger iPhone models, a 4.7" and a 5.5".
So what's the problem? All those who have been wanting a larger Apple phone should be extremely happy, and those who have been wanting more battery life should also be happy.
If battery life were my main priority and my main concern, then I'd obviously be grabbing the 5.5" iPhone, as that is going to have the best battery life, for obvious reasons.
Hilarious! Apple has been granted several battery technology patents. Not for "pixie dust" but for real-world, practical improvements to battery charing, packaging, and yes, battery shape (e.g. the curved battery patent possibly for "iWatch.") Copycats like Samsung will need to go back to the drawing board instead of the copy machine.
And, as we all know, Apple constantly improves their Ax chip line. The 64-bit A7 will evolve into a faster and more energy-efficient A8 this year. Guaranteed.
Criticizing the battery capacity in iPhones is about the only thing for Samsung trolls (paid and unpaid) to nitpick about any more. Remember when the trolls used to brag about droidphone specs? Yeah, the GHz, GB, "dual core Tegra 2 chipset" (that your wife will love), OLED, and all that techno-marketing-babble? Well that's all dead and gone.
The instant a troll bring up specs, all we need to do is type those six little keystrokes: "64-bit".
BOOM.
Then there were the "standing in line" TV ads. With the pizzicato string musical cues to tell the audience to expect humor, the techno-ignorant hipsters standing in line, droid users banging their phones together, and the Starbucks-toting ex-hippies showing up late. Well guess what. Nobody cared. iPhone line-waiters gonna line-wait. Snarky anti-Apple ads gonna be ignored. iPhones gonna sell. Online and brick-and-mortar.
Now we have the "wall hugger" ad. Showing that people will do anything to avoid Android.
And just barely 2.5 months before "iPhone 6" is released with bigger battery and (presumably) improved A8 efficiency.
And (as rumored) at least one bigger screen size.
And with massive improvements to iCloud (as described at WWDC last month).
And with iOS 8 with HomeKit for smart home integration, along with many other iOS 8 improvements.
Funny that Google barely even mentioned Android at last months' I/O conference.
Maybe they're giving up on Android. Precious little money they're making from it anyway.
(And yes, folks, Android has been stuck at 4.x since 2011. An eternity.)
I wonder what Samsung's marketing group will be reduced to advertising next year.
What new lows will they be forced to stoop to? Any ideas?
I don't think you are right that people don't care about this campaigns by Samsung. A standard theory in marketing is that criticizing competitors in general is not an approach that works well, and if not very cleverly done may backfire. Based on my assessment of these campaigns by Samsung, I would believe that Samsung may actually be loosing customers because of the stupidity.
Oh Come On people. If you are on the Apple camp, you should at least "try" to understand apple better.
Do you ever see Apple advertise their battery capacity? Do they ever tell you that on their keynote? No.
Why?
Its because Battery Capacity Dont Matter! What matters is the experience. Or how long you can use it for. Which is what they do tell you, how many min of Internet Browsing, and Music Listening etc.
I could drain out your 10,000 mAh battery ( BTW mAh isn't even an energy unit ) within minutes with a Desktop CPU.
The 20nm A8 SoC is only going to help so much, since the SoC uses little power, comparatively speaking. The highest power usage components are Display Panel and Wireless Antenna. The later are rumoured to get some substantial improvement.
iPhone 3GS = 12.3 mm = 1219 mAh
iPhone 4 = 9.3 mm = 1420 mAh
iPhone 4S = 9.3 mm = 1430 mAh
iPhone 5 = 7.6 mm = 1440 mAh
Now in the iPhone 5S the battery has a higher capacity than it has ever been at 1570 mAh.
You're missing the point. All of those models could have had larger batteries if they had been made thicker.
In spite of the additional height of the iPhone 5 over the 4, the volume of the 5 is 12% smaller than the 4 thanks to its thinness. If Apple had kept the 5 the same thickness as the 4, it would have increased the volume by 22% compared to the model as it was released. The battery appears to occupy about 40% of the space inside the iPhone 5/5S, so in theory Apple could have increased the battery capacity by 45% if they didn't make the phone any thinner. The iPhone 5/5S could have had a 2276.5 mAh battery.
Well, this is the year that Apple finally seems to be introducing two new, larger iPhone models, a 4.7" and a 5.5".
So what's the problem? All those who have been wanting a larger Apple phone should be extremely happy, and those who have been wanting more battery life should also be happy.
If battery life were my main priority and my main concern, then I'd obviously be grabbing the 5.5" iPhone, as that is going to have the best battery life, for obvious reasons.
Believe my I am happy to see a larger iPhone, and hopefully also a choice between two sizes, but I would be even happier if it had happened sooner, both for my own uses, and because Apple has left this field open for the competition for way to long.
You're missing the point. All of those models could have had larger batteries if they had been made thicker.
In spite of the additional height of the iPhone 5 over the 4, the volume of the 5 is 12% smaller than the 4 thanks to its thinness. If Apple had kept the 5 the same thickness as the 4, it would have increased the volume by 22% compared to the model as it was released. The battery appears to occupy about 40% of the space inside the iPhone 5/5S, so in theory Apple could have increased the battery capacity by 45% if they didn't make the phone any thinner. The iPhone 5/5S could have had a 2276.5 mAh battery.
The point is he's wrong and/or lying. The batteries have gotten larger, not smaller as the casings have gotten thinner.
Oh Come On people. If you are on the Apple camp, you should at least "try" to understand apple better.
Do you ever see Apple advertise their battery capacity? Do they ever tell you that on their keynote? No.
Why?
Its because Battery Capacity Dont Matter! What matters is the experience. Or how long you can use it for. Which is what they do tell you, how many min of Internet Browsing, and Music Listening etc.
I could drain out your 10,000 mAh battery ( BTW mAh isn't even an energy unit ) within minutes with a Desktop CPU.
The 20nm A8 SoC is only going to help so much, since the SoC uses little power, comparatively speaking. The highest power usage components are Display Panel and Wireless Antenna. The later are rumoured to get some substantial improvement.
Just like size doesn't matter? For years the single most criticized topic on this site has been that 3.5, then 4 inches is perfect and wanting more was trolling!
As to A8, rumor has it that Apples primary goal with A8 is to lower power usage so it is very possible that the next generation phones will have very good run times. I'm also expecting a split with more powerful A8X's going into iPads. The one chip does all strategy really doesnt work because one product or the other ends up compromised.
most deffinately, IPad 5 has smaller battery then IPad 4 but has longer battery but people are going nuts about this new thinner iPhone.
Do you boo. I mean seriously... Studies have shown that Android people don't actually use their phones. It's only natural that the battery might last longer time wise since they aren't even using it to begin with. iPhone users are heavy users as a group. So yeah wall huggers iPhone users may be but Samsung users aren't even using their phones.
Yep power saving mode, known as don't use it battery doesn't go down.
As I hope they keep A8 on both IPad and iPhone, as for only difference is graphics but iPhone 6 is supposed to have a screen resolution of about 350 ppi on 4.7 and 5.5 inch screen, that is 720 or 1080 p, just short of iPads, thus they both need better graphics.
I'm curious- what is it that you do that is "work" that drains the battery life so much? Games and streaming video are the 2 biggest drains of battery-life. So, technically, gamers should be the ones more concerned with wanting longer battery life. Stop pretending you and your tasks are more important than someone else's. They are simply different tasks- none greater or lesser.
I'm in agreement with you completely. I prefer the lighter and thinner phone. I also can get through my day of work fine without needing a charge. Of course, I'm not playing Candy Crush at the office or headed to the bathroom for a yank-fest either, so I understand how others need more battery life. Regardless- You aren't grasping his point. It's all about him and his uses. Don't worry about solutions for the masses.
Battery life goes a good day as it does under normal uses, yeah gaming will cut your battery down to 3 hours, power heavy task.
Personally, I want an iPhone that's as thin and light as possible. I prefer a smaller profile with good battery life over a heavier phone with great battery life.
If you really don't mind a heavier device, why not just get a case with an external battery? Doing this will get you outstanding battery life.
They secretly won't the pretty and thin but don't admit it.
There will only be a need for an A8X if the A8 doesn't have enough graphical power to drive the iPad Air 2 display. The A7 GPU is powerful enough for the iPad Air and the A8 will probably have more than 2x increase. Unless Apple is doubling the resolution of the next iPad I don't think the A8 will have any problems.
I'm actually hoping for an increase in this area as well.. my retina mini stutters at points and it's surprising... it's the first iPad I've owned (after the first gen) that visually stuttered when performing common tasks.
Hopefully there is a major bump in gpu
In A8 because I doubt CPU will be anything more then doubled but it probably will be 2 gb ram.
So is this to imply that if my iPhone 5 was as thick as my iPhone 4, it could not result in more battery capacity? To me it is pretty clear that this is a case of sacrifying battery life for thickness.
The next iPhones will have increased battery life and certain "people" are complaining!
Go ahead, ditch your iPhones! Apple doesn't need you, and neither does this forum!:no: interesting, more battery life in smaller device. People: oh no it's thinner so there sacrificing battery.
No it wasn't. It's how you say it. Making foolish claims you can't back up, saying how Apple is going to go under if they don't do what you say, saying that Steve Jobs would have never done this or that, and/or saying Tim Cook needs to be fired is typically trolling; but simply saying "I'd like more battery life" or "I'd like a larger display on my iPhone" isn't trolling and if you wrote either of those things no one would have called you a troll.
If this turns out to be true then I think this may be the year I actually ditch the iPhone since using one for 7 years. The battery on the iPhones is laughable.
No it wasn't. It's how you say it. Making foolish claims you can't back up, saying how Apple is going to go close its door if they don't do what you say, saying that Steve Jobs would have done this or that, and saying Tim Cook needs to be fired is typically trolling, but simply saying "I'd like more battery life" or "I'd like a larger display on my iPhone" isn't trolling and if you wrote either of those things no one would have called you a troll.
Please tell me what claims I made that I can not back up. As far as I can see I have not referred to Steve Jobs doing this or that (but why should that in itself be wrong?). And I do not believe that Tim Cook should be fired. Far as I can see I said that I (and a large number of my collegues (first hand, not hearsay!) would like more battery time, and that I would like a larger screen.
I have used Apple products where available since the SE, and I don't like to be insulted by a relatively newcomer like you (albeit very productive), on this site.
The capacity of the battery doesn't matter. What matters is how long you can use the device. I am guessing whatever size battery Apple puts in their new phones, the run times will be longer than the current models. The only question is how much longer than the current models and how will the run time compare to the competition.
Anyone that simply looks at the capacity of a battery and decides if it is good or bad is just being stupid. It is like judging the quality of a camera based on the megapixels.
Liked the last sentence, this guy is obviously an imbecile who wants a feature, but YOU of course are the masses!
I work in a company which operates more than 5000 iPhones after ditching the land-line. The most usual complaint is battery life, particularly after people started using pass-book boarding passes and other downloaded tickets, very often after a long working day with plenty of downloads. But I assume these people, not being the masses, are not to bright because in addition to heavy use they occasionally forget to charge the phone overnight, and not all bring some brick-like gadget for emergency charging everywhere they go.
Of course I am a part of the masses! Most people can get through the day with their iPhone. You think people would still buy an iPhone if the majority have a dead battery before they get home? Or are forced to go sit in their car and charge it up? Really? You're going to argue that?
You also fail to understand my argument. Do I want more battery life? Sure! Do I want a thicker, and (more importantly)- heavier phone? No thanks, unless it is a physically larger phone. 10 hours of continual use is enough for me. I'd love to hear what all 5,000 people in your office are supposed to be using their phones for where they legitimately don't have enough battery life. It sure as hell isn't simply talking.
And a brick? Hardly. If its such a huge deal- all they need is a lightning cord and a USB plug. Ya'll haven't dropped desktops yet, right?
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And what battery life was sacrificed when the device is more power efficient and has an increased battery capacity resulting in longer duration of use for the same tasks?
The better battery life that would have resulted if they didn't choose to reduce the thickness, which is the single most criticized feature by the 5000+ users of the iPhone where I work.
Couldn't agree more.
We don't want any critcism of Apple here, and people who criticizes Apple should not be not be allowed to buy their products. Have myself had all generations of Macs since the SE, and a handful of iPhone models, but obviously I have never experienced anything other than perfectionism.
There's a difference between legitimate criticism and "concern trolling".
I don't see how somebody could criticize Apple for increasing the battery life on the next iPhone compared to the previous models.
I call BS on those people.
Hilarious! Does Apple have some magic pixie dust it sprinkles over iPhone batteries to give them a certain capacity independent of their size. Of course not. A smaller case means smaller space for a battery and thus a lower capacity battery.
...
Hilarious! Apple has been granted several battery technology patents. Not for "pixie dust" but for real-world, practical improvements to battery charing, packaging, and yes, battery shape (e.g. the curved battery patent possibly for "iWatch.") Copycats like Samsung will need to go back to the drawing board instead of the copy machine.
And, as we all know, Apple constantly improves their Ax chip line. The 64-bit A7 will evolve into a faster and more energy-efficient A8 this year. Guaranteed.
Meanwhile, read and learn.
Charging patent:
http://www.patentlyapple.com/patently-apple/2009/02/apple-reveals-a-highly-advanced-battery-charging-system-patent.html
Flexible / curved battery packs:
http://www.patentlyapple.com/patently-apple/2013/07/apple-prepares-battery-designs-for-flexible-display-devices-while-their-maps-may-gain-a-few-minor-features.html
Plus plenty of solar panel patents:
http://www.patentlyapple.com/patently-apple/2012/07/apple-wins-their-sixth-solar-power-related-patent-more.html
Oh, and Samsung is losing Apple's battery business:
http://www.patentlyapple.com/patently-apple/2012/11/samsung-forces-apple-to-shift-battery-suppliers-for-ipad.html
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Criticizing the anemic (compared to others) battery capacity in iPhones is about the best way around to bring out the Apple fanboys.
Criticizing the battery capacity in iPhones is about the only thing for Samsung trolls (paid and unpaid) to nitpick about any more. Remember when the trolls used to brag about droidphone specs? Yeah, the GHz, GB, "dual core Tegra 2 chipset" (that your wife will love), OLED, and all that techno-marketing-babble? Well that's all dead and gone.
The instant a troll bring up specs, all we need to do is type those six little keystrokes: "64-bit".
BOOM.
Then there were the "standing in line" TV ads. With the pizzicato string musical cues to tell the audience to expect humor, the techno-ignorant hipsters standing in line, droid users banging their phones together, and the Starbucks-toting ex-hippies showing up late. Well guess what. Nobody cared. iPhone line-waiters gonna line-wait. Snarky anti-Apple ads gonna be ignored. iPhones gonna sell. Online and brick-and-mortar.
Now we have the "wall hugger" ad. Showing that people will do anything to avoid Android.
And just barely 2.5 months before "iPhone 6" is released with bigger battery and (presumably) improved A8 efficiency.
And (as rumored) at least one bigger screen size.
And with massive improvements to iCloud (as described at WWDC last month).
And with iOS 8 with HomeKit for smart home integration, along with many other iOS 8 improvements.
Funny that Google barely even mentioned Android at last months' I/O conference.
Maybe they're giving up on Android. Precious little money they're making from it anyway.
(And yes, folks, Android has been stuck at 4.x since 2011. An eternity.)
I wonder what Samsung's marketing group will be reduced to advertising next year.
What new lows will they be forced to stoop to? Any ideas?
It%u2019s like Kayak but for Apple Devices that show you all the offers in one spot.
It%u2019s like Kayak but for Apple Devices that show you all the offers in one spot.
There's a difference between legitimate criticism and "concern trolling".
I don't see how somebody could criticize Apple for increasing the battery life on the next iPhone compared to the previous models.
I call BS on those people.
I totally agree that critics and trolling are two distinctly different things. However occationally some people on this site may be a little short sighted in their support of everything Apple chooses. All design is choices and priorities, and priorities changes over time. People use their iPhones much more heavily now than when it was introduced. When I had my first iPhone, my reaction was that the phone was HUGE, I currently use a 4 and a 5, and I was shocked by how much I felt the 0.5 inch larger screen improved the product because my way of using the phone had totally changed. It has been a large mistake by Apple not to provide a larger phone before now. I was a short time ago in the situation that I had to buy a new phone for one of my sons, he totally refused a phone with such a small screen, and I had to buy an android to him! However I totally refused to buy a Samsung, there has to be some principles that can't be broken!
I totally agree that critics and trolling are two distinctly different things. However occationally some people on this site may be a little short sighted in their support of everything Apple chooses. All design is choices and priorities, and priorities changes over time. People use their iPhones much more heavily now than when it was introduced. When I had my first iPhone, my reaction was that the phone was HUGE, I currently use a 4 and a 5, and I was shocked by how much I felt the 0.5 inch larger screen improved the product because my way of using the phone had totally changed. It has been a large mistake by Apple not to provide a larger phone before now. I was a short time ago in the situation that I had to buy a new phone for one of my sons, he totally refused a phone with such a small screen, and I had to buy an android to him! However I totally refused to buy a Samsung, there has to be some principles that can't be broken!
Well, this is the year that Apple finally seems to be introducing two new, larger iPhone models, a 4.7" and a 5.5".
So what's the problem? All those who have been wanting a larger Apple phone should be extremely happy, and those who have been wanting more battery life should also be happy.
If battery life were my main priority and my main concern, then I'd obviously be grabbing the 5.5" iPhone, as that is going to have the best battery life, for obvious reasons.
Hilarious! Apple has been granted several battery technology patents. Not for "pixie dust" but for real-world, practical improvements to battery charing, packaging, and yes, battery shape (e.g. the curved battery patent possibly for "iWatch.") Copycats like Samsung will need to go back to the drawing board instead of the copy machine.
And, as we all know, Apple constantly improves their Ax chip line. The 64-bit A7 will evolve into a faster and more energy-efficient A8 this year. Guaranteed.
Meanwhile, read and learn.
Charging patent:
http://www.patentlyapple.com/patently-apple/2009/02/apple-reveals-a-highly-advanced-battery-charging-system-patent.html
Flexible / curved battery packs:
http://www.patentlyapple.com/patently-apple/2013/07/apple-prepares-battery-designs-for-flexible-display-devices-while-their-maps-may-gain-a-few-minor-features.html
Plus plenty of solar panel patents:
http://www.patentlyapple.com/patently-apple/2012/07/apple-wins-their-sixth-solar-power-related-patent-more.html
Oh, and Samsung is losing Apple's battery business:
http://www.patentlyapple.com/patently-apple/2012/11/samsung-forces-apple-to-shift-battery-suppliers-for-ipad.html
Criticizing the battery capacity in iPhones is about the only thing for Samsung trolls (paid and unpaid) to nitpick about any more. Remember when the trolls used to brag about droidphone specs? Yeah, the GHz, GB, "dual core Tegra 2 chipset" (that your wife will love), OLED, and all that techno-marketing-babble? Well that's all dead and gone.
The instant a troll bring up specs, all we need to do is type those six little keystrokes: "64-bit".
BOOM.
Then there were the "standing in line" TV ads. With the pizzicato string musical cues to tell the audience to expect humor, the techno-ignorant hipsters standing in line, droid users banging their phones together, and the Starbucks-toting ex-hippies showing up late. Well guess what. Nobody cared. iPhone line-waiters gonna line-wait. Snarky anti-Apple ads gonna be ignored. iPhones gonna sell. Online and brick-and-mortar.
Now we have the "wall hugger" ad. Showing that people will do anything to avoid Android.
And just barely 2.5 months before "iPhone 6" is released with bigger battery and (presumably) improved A8 efficiency.
And (as rumored) at least one bigger screen size.
And with massive improvements to iCloud (as described at WWDC last month).
And with iOS 8 with HomeKit for smart home integration, along with many other iOS 8 improvements.
Funny that Google barely even mentioned Android at last months' I/O conference.
Maybe they're giving up on Android. Precious little money they're making from it anyway.
(And yes, folks, Android has been stuck at 4.x since 2011. An eternity.)
I wonder what Samsung's marketing group will be reduced to advertising next year.
What new lows will they be forced to stoop to? Any ideas?
I don't think you are right that people don't care about this campaigns by Samsung. A standard theory in marketing is that criticizing competitors in general is not an approach that works well, and if not very cleverly done may backfire. Based on my assessment of these campaigns by Samsung, I would believe that Samsung may actually be loosing customers because of the stupidity.
Oh Come On people. If you are on the Apple camp, you should at least "try" to understand apple better.
Do you ever see Apple advertise their battery capacity? Do they ever tell you that on their keynote? No.
Why?
Its because Battery Capacity Dont Matter! What matters is the experience. Or how long you can use it for. Which is what they do tell you, how many min of Internet Browsing, and Music Listening etc.
I could drain out your 10,000 mAh battery ( BTW mAh isn't even an energy unit ) within minutes with a Desktop CPU.
The 20nm A8 SoC is only going to help so much, since the SoC uses little power, comparatively speaking. The highest power usage components are Display Panel and Wireless Antenna. The later are rumoured to get some substantial improvement.
You're missing the point. All of those models could have had larger batteries if they had been made thicker.
In spite of the additional height of the iPhone 5 over the 4, the volume of the 5 is 12% smaller than the 4 thanks to its thinness. If Apple had kept the 5 the same thickness as the 4, it would have increased the volume by 22% compared to the model as it was released. The battery appears to occupy about 40% of the space inside the iPhone 5/5S, so in theory Apple could have increased the battery capacity by 45% if they didn't make the phone any thinner. The iPhone 5/5S could have had a 2276.5 mAh battery.
Well, this is the year that Apple finally seems to be introducing two new, larger iPhone models, a 4.7" and a 5.5".
So what's the problem? All those who have been wanting a larger Apple phone should be extremely happy, and those who have been wanting more battery life should also be happy.
If battery life were my main priority and my main concern, then I'd obviously be grabbing the 5.5" iPhone, as that is going to have the best battery life, for obvious reasons.
Believe my I am happy to see a larger iPhone, and hopefully also a choice between two sizes, but I would be even happier if it had happened sooner, both for my own uses, and because Apple has left this field open for the competition for way to long.
The point is he's wrong and/or lying. The batteries have gotten larger, not smaller as the casings have gotten thinner.
Oh Come On people. If you are on the Apple camp, you should at least "try" to understand apple better.
Do you ever see Apple advertise their battery capacity? Do they ever tell you that on their keynote? No.
Why?
Its because Battery Capacity Dont Matter! What matters is the experience. Or how long you can use it for. Which is what they do tell you, how many min of Internet Browsing, and Music Listening etc.
I could drain out your 10,000 mAh battery ( BTW mAh isn't even an energy unit ) within minutes with a Desktop CPU.
The 20nm A8 SoC is only going to help so much, since the SoC uses little power, comparatively speaking. The highest power usage components are Display Panel and Wireless Antenna. The later are rumoured to get some substantial improvement.
Just like size doesn't matter? For years the single most criticized topic on this site has been that 3.5, then 4 inches is perfect and wanting more was trolling!
Yep power saving mode, known as don't use it battery doesn't go down.
As I hope they keep A8 on both IPad and iPhone, as for only difference is graphics but iPhone 6 is supposed to have a screen resolution of about 350 ppi on 4.7 and 5.5 inch screen, that is 720 or 1080 p, just short of iPads, thus they both need better graphics.
Battery life goes a good day as it does under normal uses, yeah gaming will cut your battery down to 3 hours, power heavy task.
Most deffinately.
They secretly won't the pretty and thin but don't admit it.
What people don't realize.
Hopefully there is a major bump in gpu
In A8 because I doubt CPU will be anything more then doubled but it probably will be 2 gb ram. They don't think it threw.
That's what people don't realize, yes it's thinner but it's going to be taller and wider to allocate bigger battery.
yes thicker allows more but not always true.
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No it wasn't. It's how you say it. Making foolish claims you can't back up, saying how Apple is going to go under if they don't do what you say, saying that Steve Jobs would have never done this or that, and/or saying Tim Cook needs to be fired is typically trolling; but simply saying "I'd like more battery life" or "I'd like a larger display on my iPhone" isn't trolling and if you wrote either of those things no one would have called you a troll.
Go away, please.
No it wasn't. It's how you say it. Making foolish claims you can't back up, saying how Apple is going to go close its door if they don't do what you say, saying that Steve Jobs would have done this or that, and saying Tim Cook needs to be fired is typically trolling, but simply saying "I'd like more battery life" or "I'd like a larger display on my iPhone" isn't trolling and if you wrote either of those things no one would have called you a troll.
Please tell me what claims I made that I can not back up. As far as I can see I have not referred to Steve Jobs doing this or that (but why should that in itself be wrong?). And I do not believe that Tim Cook should be fired. Far as I can see I said that I (and a large number of my collegues (first hand, not hearsay!) would like more battery time, and that I would like a larger screen.
I have used Apple products where available since the SE, and I don't like to be insulted by a relatively newcomer like you (albeit very productive), on this site.
The capacity of the battery doesn't matter. What matters is how long you can use the device. I am guessing whatever size battery Apple puts in their new phones, the run times will be longer than the current models. The only question is how much longer than the current models and how will the run time compare to the competition.
Anyone that simply looks at the capacity of a battery and decides if it is good or bad is just being stupid. It is like judging the quality of a camera based on the megapixels.
-kpluck
Liked the last sentence, this guy is obviously an imbecile who wants a feature, but YOU of course are the masses!
I work in a company which operates more than 5000 iPhones after ditching the land-line. The most usual complaint is battery life, particularly after people started using pass-book boarding passes and other downloaded tickets, very often after a long working day with plenty of downloads. But I assume these people, not being the masses, are not to bright because in addition to heavy use they occasionally forget to charge the phone overnight, and not all bring some brick-like gadget for emergency charging everywhere they go.
Of course I am a part of the masses! Most people can get through the day with their iPhone. You think people would still buy an iPhone if the majority have a dead battery before they get home? Or are forced to go sit in their car and charge it up? Really? You're going to argue that?
You also fail to understand my argument. Do I want more battery life? Sure! Do I want a thicker, and (more importantly)- heavier phone? No thanks, unless it is a physically larger phone. 10 hours of continual use is enough for me. I'd love to hear what all 5,000 people in your office are supposed to be using their phones for where they legitimately don't have enough battery life. It sure as hell isn't simply talking.
And a brick? Hardly. If its such a huge deal- all they need is a lightning cord and a USB plug. Ya'll haven't dropped desktops yet, right?