Any word on whether you can pay a service fee to swap out the guts each year, like some of us were speculating / hoping? I won't have a chance to look at the presentation today.
18 hours is not the absolute worst duration for such a smartwatch, meaning that the Apple watch battery life does not suck quite as bad as the Moto 360.
If you are going to charge it every night then you need two chargers (one for each watch). Beside, you get a charger with the watch.
How about a charger for the office, a charger for the car, a charger for the living room, a charger for the bedroom, a travel charger in case you forget one of them? Any body who makes a lot of calls, or listens to a lot of music off the watch is going to need them.
And now with the new MacBook you will need to buy a bunch of proprietary charges for it as well, including a whole bag full of port break-out dongles. Yup, Apple's got the charger business all sorted out.
pebble steel time is color - not as rich a color, or as fast responding, but it is always on color.
the pebble steel time and apple watch share many similar capabilities, and then there are differences. they may appeal to different people, besides Pebble also works with Android...
Ok...Hyundai Sonata has similar capabilities as BMW 3 series, but has warranty of 100,000 miles. No more comment.
I think I would pony up the extra $100 and get the Apple Watch Sport unless you had an Android phone of course. They may share similar capabilities now, but Apple's version has more developer potential. Also Apple Pay is just getting started which is a nice plus. Not too big on the "love taps" and the whole sending heartbeats thing though.
Siri integrated too...What does Pebble have on that?
Better not use that talk via watch feature Tim Cook was so excited about. There's only 3 hours of talk time. And music playback drops the battery life to only 6.5 hours. So forget the watch replacing your iPod and iPhone. A heavy phone day and listening to music will probably knock the useful life of that watch down to about 4 hours before needing to be recharged for two hours.
18 hours sounds really good until you start using the features Cook was bragging about on stage this morning.
I wonder why someone would even consider listening to music through a damn watch while the phone is right in the pocket.
Different chargers for each size of watch? That's a poor design! First negative thing I've said about the watch.
If Apple actually do this, they're dumb. But, I don't believe so. For iPhone 3-6+, different battery sizes, same charger. There's no fricking reason that Apple would make 2 different chargers with different capacities, seriously.
you won't get enough watts to make it worth while. trust me -- if you've thought of these things, they have too. its insanity to believe they intentionally gimped v1 in favor of v2. they may not be a v2 if v1 doesnt do well.
There's always a V2 even if V1 doesn't do well. What will Apple do? Drop the price of V1...like $299/$449 and...$10,000 lol.
Till you're traveling and forget one of them and then you're stuck. If I forget my iPhone charger I can use my iPad charger etc
I see you are confused. The 42mm and 38mm chargers are the same size/diameter. So you can charge different sizes with the same charger. Their accessory page shows only one charger with different cable length not different watch or charger "size".
The 18 hours of battery with moderate use will turn off many customers, although available technology makes that understandable. What would be an ultimate goal for the device would be 24 hours of operation no matter what the heck you did. Knowing that some days, your watch would stop working mid afternoon is going to be disappointing for many.
That should also be a goal for phones. Knowing that when I start my day, the phone will work, no matter what, for 24 hours would end the need to scramble for a charger at some point in the day. Yes, 18 hours is the normal amount of time to be up, but there are those longer days that happen. Knowing I could stretch it without having to charge my phone would make for happy time. Yeah, it won't happen soon, but someday. I can dream, right?
I see you are confused. The 42mm and 38mm chargers are the same size/diameter. So you can charge different sizes with the same charger. Their accessory page shows only one charger with different cable length not different watch or charger "size".
Yes it seems the article was confused. The article at the top of this thread is where that info came from
Who uses an iDevice moderately? I know I doubt and nobody I know does and/or gets anywhere near max advertised battery life. Kind of like estimated gas mileage on a car.
The 18 hours of battery with moderate use will turn off many customers, although available technology makes that understandable. What would be an ultimate goal for the device would be 24 hours of operation no matter what the heck you did. Knowing that some days, your watch would stop working mid afternoon is going to be disappointing for many.
That should also be a goal for phones. Knowing that when I start my day, the phone will work, no matter what, for 24 hours would end the need to scramble for a charger at some point in the day. Yes, 18 hours is the normal amount of time to be up, but there are those longer days that happen. Knowing I could stretch it without having to charge my phone would make for happy time. Yeah, it won't happen soon, but someday. I can dream, right?
Why don't you also bring the fking laptop into this? 10 hrs battery life is not acceptable for mobile devices...should be 24hr battery on MacBook too...yeah...stop trolling.
Who uses an iDevice moderately? I know I doubt and nobody I know does and/or gets anywhere near max advertised battery life. Kind of like estimated gas mileage on a car/ tire.
Much better battery life than expected. 72 hours in power reserve mode. And 48 hours for just timekeeping. 7 hours for workout/heartrate sensor. All better than the rumors suggested. 1.5 hours to charge to 80% is great, and if you can get through the day with power left it might not even take that long so you could charge it before you go to bed and wear it to bed if you want to do sleep tracking. Even if Apple isn't offering sleep tracking you know a 3rd party will.
Apple defines their all-day battery claim as follows:
"18 hours with the following use: 90 time checks, 90 notifications, 45 minutes of app use, and a 30-minute workout with music playback from Apple Watch via Bluetooth, over the course of 18 hours.”
I suspect many users with their new toy will not be seeing that "all day" battery life. Heck making it last an 9 hour day at work while showing it off to co-workers may be tough.:D Perhaps when the new wears off tho
I'm already using an MK watch, but I don't think I'll get the Watch though, since my iPhone 6 has been serving me well from the day I got it (on Boxing Day last December).
Wonder when will the Watch debut in Malaysia and Singapore?
18 hours is fine for me, since I don't wear my watch when I'm sleeping, it's no big deal to charge it at night.
Exactly. I suppose you could sleep wih something as bulky as a watch on at night, but who would want to? And if Apple doesn't offer one, someone will make a stand with the charger integrated so that you can have it on your nightstand and when you go to bed at night you take it off and it snaps into place. No biggie.
What I hate though, is Apples current trend of describing things that don't last 24 hours as "all day".
But it is "all day" - all of my day. That's why I thought the fuss over the battery life - even for the iPhone - was nuts. I'm not up 7x24, so why does my device need to last that long?
Would it be nice if I never had to plug anything in and it just worked? Sure! But that's not practical, at least with todays battery tech.
What does drive me nuts is that based on the differences between the 6 and 6 Plus battery life, if they made a 6 that was as thick as my iPhone 4s my iPhone 6 might last a full version of my day It would still be more than thin enough to slip into my pocket. And don't get me started on the whole absurdity with iMac's, thinness and using freaking laptop parts in desktop computers - especially when it comes to putting decent descrete graphics in machines.
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Any word on whether you can pay a service fee to swap out the guts each year, like some of us were speculating / hoping? I won't have a chance to look at the presentation today.
18 hours is not the absolute worst duration for such a smartwatch, meaning that the Apple watch battery life does not suck quite as bad as the Moto 360.
Fixed that for you...
If you are going to charge it every night then you need two chargers (one for each watch). Beside, you get a charger with the watch.
How about a charger for the office, a charger for the car, a charger for the living room, a charger for the bedroom, a travel charger in case you forget one of them? Any body who makes a lot of calls, or listens to a lot of music off the watch is going to need them.
And now with the new MacBook you will need to buy a bunch of proprietary charges for it as well, including a whole bag full of port break-out dongles. Yup, Apple's got the charger business all sorted out.
Can you look at it and tell the time without having to shake it or press a button?
Er . . . yes you can.
pebble steel time is color - not as rich a color, or as fast responding, but it is always on color.
the pebble steel time and apple watch share many similar capabilities, and then there are differences. they may appeal to different people, besides Pebble also works with Android...
Ok...Hyundai Sonata has similar capabilities as BMW 3 series, but has warranty of 100,000 miles. No more comment.
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I think I would pony up the extra $100 and get the Apple Watch Sport unless you had an Android phone of course. They may share similar capabilities now, but Apple's version has more developer potential. Also Apple Pay is just getting started which is a nice plus. Not too big on the "love taps" and the whole sending heartbeats thing though.
Siri integrated too...What does Pebble have on that?
Better not use that talk via watch feature Tim Cook was so excited about. There's only 3 hours of talk time. And music playback drops the battery life to only 6.5 hours. So forget the watch replacing your iPod and iPhone. A heavy phone day and listening to music will probably knock the useful life of that watch down to about 4 hours before needing to be recharged for two hours.
18 hours sounds really good until you start using the features Cook was bragging about on stage this morning.
I wonder why someone would even consider listening to music through a damn watch while the phone is right in the pocket.
Different chargers for each size of watch? That's a poor design! First negative thing I've said about the watch.
If Apple actually do this, they're dumb. But, I don't believe so. For iPhone 3-6+, different battery sizes, same charger. There's no fricking reason that Apple would make 2 different chargers with different capacities, seriously.
you won't get enough watts to make it worth while. trust me -- if you've thought of these things, they have too. its insanity to believe they intentionally gimped v1 in favor of v2. they may not be a v2 if v1 doesnt do well.
There's always a V2 even if V1 doesn't do well. What will Apple do? Drop the price of V1...like $299/$449 and...$10,000 lol.
They did that with the first iPhone, didn't they?
I think I've seen more whining here (and even on iMore.com) than ever before with the release of the final details on the Apple Watches.
People evidently want a $10,000 watch for $50! Unbelievable! The "Block Member" button here is going to wear out and break at this rate.
Till you're traveling and forget one of them and then you're stuck. If I forget my iPhone charger I can use my iPad charger etc
I see you are confused. The 42mm and 38mm chargers are the same size/diameter. So you can charge different sizes with the same charger. Their accessory page shows only one charger with different cable length not different watch or charger "size".
The 18 hours of battery with moderate use will turn off many customers, although available technology makes that understandable. What would be an ultimate goal for the device would be 24 hours of operation no matter what the heck you did. Knowing that some days, your watch would stop working mid afternoon is going to be disappointing for many.
That should also be a goal for phones. Knowing that when I start my day, the phone will work, no matter what, for 24 hours would end the need to scramble for a charger at some point in the day. Yes, 18 hours is the normal amount of time to be up, but there are those longer days that happen. Knowing I could stretch it without having to charge my phone would make for happy time. Yeah, it won't happen soon, but someday. I can dream, right?
Yes it seems the article was confused. The article at the top of this thread is where that info came from
The 18 hours of battery with moderate use will turn off many customers, although available technology makes that understandable. What would be an ultimate goal for the device would be 24 hours of operation no matter what the heck you did. Knowing that some days, your watch would stop working mid afternoon is going to be disappointing for many.
That should also be a goal for phones. Knowing that when I start my day, the phone will work, no matter what, for 24 hours would end the need to scramble for a charger at some point in the day. Yes, 18 hours is the normal amount of time to be up, but there are those longer days that happen. Knowing I could stretch it without having to charge my phone would make for happy time. Yeah, it won't happen soon, but someday. I can dream, right?
Why don't you also bring the fking laptop into this? 10 hrs battery life is not acceptable for mobile devices...should be 24hr battery on MacBook too...yeah...stop trolling.
Who uses an iDevice moderately? I know I doubt and nobody I know does and/or gets anywhere near max advertised battery life. Kind of like estimated gas mileage on a car/ tire.
Fix that for you.
Apple defines their all-day battery claim as follows:
"18 hours with the following use: 90 time checks, 90 notifications, 45 minutes of app use, and a 30-minute workout with music playback from Apple Watch via Bluetooth, over the course of 18 hours.”
I suspect many users with their new toy will not be seeing that "all day" battery life. Heck making it last an 9 hour day at work while showing it off to co-workers may be tough.:D Perhaps when the new wears off tho
Wonder when will the Watch debut in Malaysia and Singapore?
Exactly. I suppose you could sleep wih something as bulky as a watch on at night, but who would want to? And if Apple doesn't offer one, someone will make a stand with the charger integrated so that you can have it on your nightstand and when you go to bed at night you take it off and it snaps into place. No biggie.
But it is "all day" - all of my day. That's why I thought the fuss over the battery life - even for the iPhone - was nuts. I'm not up 7x24, so why does my device need to last that long?
Would it be nice if I never had to plug anything in and it just worked? Sure! But that's not practical, at least with todays battery tech.
What does drive me nuts is that based on the differences between the 6 and 6 Plus battery life, if they made a 6 that was as thick as my iPhone 4s my iPhone 6 might last a full version of my day