Where's the proof that it's not? There just isn't any good reason to go this far, júst for a póssible chance to catch a part of the 0,01% that we call extremists. And this is not some hacker doing some hacking to prove that a company needs to put more work into making it's software more secure. It's a government agency that's deliberately hacking company's products in order to spy on it's citizens. There has never been any proof that doing these things will make any noticeable difference, or that it will result in a noticeable safer environment. They will always be too late since there are always nutcases who don't use phones, but a deep fryer converted to a bomb for example.
Can you claim that it's not possible for someone who wanted to subvert U.S. national security to purchase and use an iOS device? No. Therefore, the CIA does have a legitimate reason for this type of research. And in a democracy where the legal standard is "innocent until proven guilty", it doesn't really work to conflate opportunity for wrongdoing with actual proven wrongdoing. Taking the stance of conflation is actually anti-democratic.
In order for this approach to work the App must be ubiquitous. That means an Apple developed and supplied App or Apps like Facebook, Twitter, or Weather. It would need be one or more of these Apps that are on virtually every iPhone or the hack would be ineffective. One would think there may be a way to verify these Apps to see if they have been altered. I hope the developers are listening and reacting.
Personal security in our generation is only a figment of our imagination. Our government has fake cell phone towers to listen in on our conversations. They have enormous data centers monitoring our every phone call, email and tweet. They log every purchase we make and we are watched by cameras at shopping malls, airports, rail stations and even while we drive through the city. Is this not like Orwell's "1984"? Big brother is watching you.
What can be done about it? Ask your elected officials to publicly state their position on privacy and don't re-elect those who think this is ok. Time to toss many in the current WH admin and congress. Only we can stop this. We elected these people, we can remove them and place in office those that represent our views. OR we can become the people Orwell had so vividly depicted. Essentially robots under the governments control. We are loosing site of the "We the people, by the people and for the people" our constitution has so well defined. Our government is not supposed to be in control of our lives, we are supposed to be in control of our government.
This is a sad commentary on the current distorted version of the so-called greatest democracy on earth.
Whatever happened to the "government of the people. . .by the people. . .for the people. . . shall not perish from the earth" being a guiding and unifying value? We now have government agents tasked by our leaders to intrude and penetrate the private homes and conversations of its citizenry. Of course it's justified, so they say, by the global threat of terrorism. They want us to all live without fear by turning us all into prisoners of the government fear mongering and turning the whole country into one big Gitmo.
I'm sure the founding fathers and the truly great leaders like Lincoln never envisioned freedom in the form of the "government curated democracy" that we are living in today. What would have never been considered acceptable is now commonplace and institutionalized.
I'm sure the attacks on our privacy are just the tip of the iceberg.
The Fourth Amendment to the US Constitution is proof.
Sure. It's proof of the rights that U.S. citizens have regarding search and seizure. That's why the FISA court ruled back in 2006 that the NSA had failed to correctly redact personal information from a database that the FBI/CIA were allowed to access. However, that's the only proven constitutional violation from the entire Snowden document dump, and it was the NSA itself that provided the proof from an internal audit. There was a later federal court ruling that MAYBE the holding of landline telephone metadata on government servers could be a constitutional violation, and the government responded to that ruling by saying that it had no problem discontinuing that practice. Of course, the private telephone companies didn't really like the ruling because it would add to their own expenses rather than having the government foot the bill.
Is there a way to check if a submitted app was compiled using CIA-compromised X-code? Maybe it's time App Store submissions be made in source code and Apple does the compiling in-house.
This is a sad commentary on the current distorted version of the so-called greatest democracy on earth.
Whatever happened to the "government of the people. . .by the people. . .for the people. . . shall not perish from the earth" being a guiding and unifying value? We now have government agents tasked by our leaders to intrude and penetrate the private homes and conversations of its citizenry. Of course it's justified, so they say, by the global threat of terrorism. They want us to all live without fear by turning us all into prisoners of the government fear mongering and turning the whole country into one big Gitmo.
I'm sure the founding fathers and the truly great leaders like Lincoln never envisioned freedom in the form of the "government curated democracy" that we are living in today. What would have never been considered acceptable is now commonplace and institutionalized.
I'm sure the attacks on our privacy are just the tip of the iceberg.
Thirty years ago while in grad school overseas, I casually mentioned to an American classmate that the NSA monitors all satellite transmissions including personal communications. He was incredulous and was so appalled that I would accuse the US government of being capable of such an egregious violation of the constitution. Then I showed him the Time magazine article that mentioned it in passing, as if it was not big deal at all.
Hold no illusions about how the US government is able to twist logic to arrive at the conclusion that it is okay to violate the constitution.
Why is Sandia National Laboratories in quotes? That's not a secret organization.
It's also not the CIA. It operates for NNSA, a branch of the DOE. Why was it lumped in with the CIA in this article? SNL, along with all government agencies and contractors (SNL is a NNSA/DOE contractor) perform security analysis of all software code. This doesn't mean they're trying to break the code, only make sure it's secure enough for classified work.
And then what? Will YOU be in the ruling class after the government burns?
That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government...
This is an old game that spy agencies have been engaged in for centuries.
True, but those spy agencies have been engaged in this game against their countries' adversaries. In this case we have a government agency treating its own people as adversaries.
That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government...
Problem is it’s not the form that is destructive, but the (lack of) execution thereof.
Thirty years ago while in grad school overseas, I casually mentioned to an American classmate that the NSA monitors all satellite transmissions including personal communications. He was incredulous and was so appalled that I would accuse the US government of being capable of such an egregious violation of the constitution. Then I showed him the Time magazine article that mentioned it in passing, as if it was not big deal at all.
Hold no illusions about how the US government is able to twist logic to arrive at the conclusion that it is okay to violate the constitution.
We have a President right now that is acting like a Dictator! Stepping all over the constitution. If he doesn't get what he wants from Congress, well He has a Pen & a Phone and can just do whatever he wants anyway!!!
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The implication being that there are classes…
Then again, they do want feudalism back.
Clearly? What's the proof of that?
Please don’t speak on topics when you know absolutely nothing whatsoever about them.
The Fourth Amendment to the US Constitution is proof.
Where's the proof that it's not? There just isn't any good reason to go this far, júst for a póssible chance to catch a part of the 0,01% that we call extremists. And this is not some hacker doing some hacking to prove that a company needs to put more work into making it's software more secure. It's a government agency that's deliberately hacking company's products in order to spy on it's citizens. There has never been any proof that doing these things will make any noticeable difference, or that it will result in a noticeable safer environment. They will always be too late since there are always nutcases who don't use phones, but a deep fryer converted to a bomb for example.
Can you claim that it's not possible for someone who wanted to subvert U.S. national security to purchase and use an iOS device? No. Therefore, the CIA does have a legitimate reason for this type of research. And in a democracy where the legal standard is "innocent until proven guilty", it doesn't really work to conflate opportunity for wrongdoing with actual proven wrongdoing. Taking the stance of conflation is actually anti-democratic.
Except we already know their purpose for any crack.
In order for this approach to work the App must be ubiquitous. That means an Apple developed and supplied App or Apps like Facebook, Twitter, or Weather. It would need be one or more of these Apps that are on virtually every iPhone or the hack would be ineffective. One would think there may be a way to verify these Apps to see if they have been altered. I hope the developers are listening and reacting.
Personal security in our generation is only a figment of our imagination. Our government has fake cell phone towers to listen in on our conversations. They have enormous data centers monitoring our every phone call, email and tweet. They log every purchase we make and we are watched by cameras at shopping malls, airports, rail stations and even while we drive through the city. Is this not like Orwell's "1984"? Big brother is watching you.
What can be done about it? Ask your elected officials to publicly state their position on privacy and don't re-elect those who think this is ok. Time to toss many in the current WH admin and congress. Only we can stop this. We elected these people, we can remove them and place in office those that represent our views. OR we can become the people Orwell had so vividly depicted. Essentially robots under the governments control. We are loosing site of the "We the people, by the people and for the people" our constitution has so well defined. Our government is not supposed to be in control of our lives, we are supposed to be in control of our government.
Putin would never do something like this, right Edward Snowden?
Whatever happened to the "government of the people. . .by the people. . .for the people. . . shall not perish from the earth" being a guiding and unifying value? We now have government agents tasked by our leaders to intrude and penetrate the private homes and conversations of its citizenry. Of course it's justified, so they say, by the global threat of terrorism. They want us to all live without fear by turning us all into prisoners of the government fear mongering and turning the whole country into one big Gitmo.
I'm sure the founding fathers and the truly great leaders like Lincoln never envisioned freedom in the form of the "government curated democracy" that we are living in today. What would have never been considered acceptable is now commonplace and institutionalized.
I'm sure the attacks on our privacy are just the tip of the iceberg.
The Fourth Amendment to the US Constitution is proof.
Sure. It's proof of the rights that U.S. citizens have regarding search and seizure. That's why the FISA court ruled back in 2006 that the NSA had failed to correctly redact personal information from a database that the FBI/CIA were allowed to access. However, that's the only proven constitutional violation from the entire Snowden document dump, and it was the NSA itself that provided the proof from an internal audit. There was a later federal court ruling that MAYBE the holding of landline telephone metadata on government servers could be a constitutional violation, and the government responded to that ruling by saying that it had no problem discontinuing that practice. Of course, the private telephone companies didn't really like the ruling because it would add to their own expenses rather than having the government foot the bill.
I regularly criticize the Chinese government as a government that is scared of its own people.
The US government, no matter who the president is, is a government that is scared of everyone and everything including its own shadow.
Apple doesn't license OS X, and the military uses computers that are more powerful than anything Apple produces.
Is there a way to check if a submitted app was compiled using CIA-compromised X-code? Maybe it's time App Store submissions be made in source code and Apple does the compiling in-house.
If you click the icon to the left of the url (seems like a reading version comes up) but it will allow the copy paste without any issues.
This is a sad commentary on the current distorted version of the so-called greatest democracy on earth.
Whatever happened to the "government of the people. . .by the people. . .for the people. . . shall not perish from the earth" being a guiding and unifying value? We now have government agents tasked by our leaders to intrude and penetrate the private homes and conversations of its citizenry. Of course it's justified, so they say, by the global threat of terrorism. They want us to all live without fear by turning us all into prisoners of the government fear mongering and turning the whole country into one big Gitmo.
I'm sure the founding fathers and the truly great leaders like Lincoln never envisioned freedom in the form of the "government curated democracy" that we are living in today. What would have never been considered acceptable is now commonplace and institutionalized.
I'm sure the attacks on our privacy are just the tip of the iceberg.
Thirty years ago while in grad school overseas, I casually mentioned to an American classmate that the NSA monitors all satellite transmissions including personal communications. He was incredulous and was so appalled that I would accuse the US government of being capable of such an egregious violation of the constitution. Then I showed him the Time magazine article that mentioned it in passing, as if it was not big deal at all.
Hold no illusions about how the US government is able to twist logic to arrive at the conclusion that it is okay to violate the constitution.
Why is Sandia National Laboratories in quotes? That's not a secret organization.
It's also not the CIA. It operates for NNSA, a branch of the DOE. Why was it lumped in with the CIA in this article? SNL, along with all government agencies and contractors (SNL is a NNSA/DOE contractor) perform security analysis of all software code. This doesn't mean they're trying to break the code, only make sure it's secure enough for classified work.
This is an old game that spy agencies have been engaged in for centuries.
True, but those spy agencies have been engaged in this game against their countries' adversaries. In this case we have a government agency treating its own people as adversaries.
Then I showed him the Time magazine article that mentioned it in passing, as if it was not big deal at all.
That's because Time magazine wasn't indulging in conflation.
Problem is it’s not the form that is destructive, but the (lack of) execution thereof.
Thirty years ago while in grad school overseas, I casually mentioned to an American classmate that the NSA monitors all satellite transmissions including personal communications. He was incredulous and was so appalled that I would accuse the US government of being capable of such an egregious violation of the constitution. Then I showed him the Time magazine article that mentioned it in passing, as if it was not big deal at all.
Hold no illusions about how the US government is able to twist logic to arrive at the conclusion that it is okay to violate the constitution.
We have a President right now that is acting like a Dictator! Stepping all over the constitution. If he doesn't get what he wants from Congress, well He has a Pen & a Phone and can just do whatever he wants anyway!!!