That's all well and good, but the disputed thesis is that healthy eating can cure cancer. As far as I'm aware there is precisely zero scientific support for such a claim.
One of the most obnoxious apps around, good riddance!
Though it is fascist to remove an app just because Apple doesn't like a certain developer or disagrees with what they have done in their personal life.
That is not true, I am sure they rationally consider their response before posting.....
I do think the healthy diet will do more for you BEFORE the cancer comes. It could be our chemical addiction that adds to cancer these days. You know, additives, preservatives, etc. :no:
That's all well and good, but the disputed thesis is that healthy eating can cure cancer. As far as I'm aware there is precisely zero scientific support for such a claim.
Many people talk about "traditional" medicine and "alternative" medicine. I think there is only one kind of medicine. If it works it's medicine and if it doesn't it isn't medicine.
Medicine that works is medicine that has been demonstrated by plentiful, rigorous scientific double-blind peer-reviewed clinical (meaning laboratory-style) research to have a reliable probability of working.
Testimonials and anecdotal "evidence" by no matter how attractive and famous a former Playboy Bunny do not count as reliable scientific studies. They might indicate possible interesting avenues of research, but nothing more.
So-called alternative medicine that offers any absolute guarantees of efficacy or safety is also not real medicine. No genuine medicine, sadly, is 100% effective or 100% safe. Science can tell us the probability that a medicine will work and the probability that its side-effects are risky. Good medicine has a high probability of efficacy and a low probability of negative side-effects. Even Aspirin can cause death in an extremely tiny percentage of people, and it is a derivative of willow bark, a "natural" substance.
It is sad that so many people are still, in an age of enlightenment and wonderful advances in medicine, chasing after magical solutions to their health problems. That is partly because there are some medical problems for which there is simply no cure. At least not so far. In the meantime, charlatans exploit these situations to line their pockets.
Real medicine is often very costly too. In the US many people forgo treatment for lack of money, and even in Canada we are about the only country with publicly funded health care that does not also have a pharmacare programme. I think that is another opportunity for charlatans to profit from the misfortunes of vulnerable people.
Many people talk about "traditional" medicine and "alternative" medicine. I think there is only one kind of medicine. If it works it's medicine and if it doesn't it isn't medicine.
Medicine that works is medicine that has been demonstrated by plentiful, rigorous scientific double-blind peer-reviewed clinical (meaning laboratory-style) research to have a reliable probability of working.
Testimonials and anecdotal "evidence" by no matter how attractive and famous a former Playboy Bunny do not count as reliable scientific studies. They might indicate possible interesting avenues of research, but nothing more.
So-called alternative medicine that offers any absolute guarantees of efficacy or safety is also not real medicine. No genuine medicine, sadly, is 100% effective or 100% safe. Science can tell us the probability that a medicine will work and the probability that its side-effects are risky. Good medicine has a high probability of efficacy and a low probability of negative side-effects. Even Aspirin can cause death in an extremely tiny percentage of people, and it is a derivative of willow bark, a "natural" substance.
It is sad that so many people are still, in an age of enlightenment and wonderful advances in medicine, chasing after magical solutions to their health problems. That is partly because there are some medical problems for which there is simply no cure. At least not so far. In the meantime, charlatans exploit these situations to line their pockets.
Real medicine is often very costly too. In the US many people forgo treatment for lack of money, and even in Canada we are about the only country with publicly funded health care that does not also have a pharmacare programme. I think that is another opportunity for charlatans to profit from the misfortunes of vulnerable people.
The problem is that even traditional medicine is often based on smoke and mirrors in the form of placebos. And placebos are often effective. Therefore, it is easy to see how people try out alternative medicines, as even if they don't have any medicinal properties, the outcome will often be the same.
Yes, the placebo effect is very real - and has good scientific research that establishes the degree to which it is effective.
But remember my premise: there is only one kind of medicine, medicine that works. If a placebo works, that's fine.
There is a danger, however. There are many "natural" medications on the market that actually have no demonstrable effect. For example, if a product claims to reduce fever but has no ingredient that is shown by clinical trial to be more effective than a placebo, and one relies on it to reduce a child's fever, there is a real danger if the fever is not reduced. An uncontrolled fever in child can be life-threatening.
Our CBC did a programme on this by inventing a non-existent "natural" anti-fever medication they called Nighton (anagram of "nothing"), and were able to get Health Canada license to sell it based on unsubstantiated claims and a photocopy of a few pages from a naturopath's writings on the subject of fever. I know - but truth is sometimes stranger than fiction. Since there are no ingredients in Nighton, it is "harmless". Except if it were to lead to a child's fever being unmanaged.
Are you one of those crazy people that is anti-vaccine too, and that would let their children die, because of their stupidity and ignorance?" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />
Are you one of those that believe the healthcare industry without any kind of scrutiny over their "facts". The industry has been proven wrong AND even MANIPULATING FACTS so many times that I take anything they say with a grain of salt. Do you take vaccination for the flu? According to latest studies you are making it 3% less of a risk to have the flu, and so what happens then? Probably not much. And you are going to inject some mercury onto you blood system. I would read up on what that does for the human nervous system and brain. But I guess you trust that car salesman as well, or is that doctor (that gets benefits from the medical company) more reliable in your thoughts? Hell, Alzheimer's and other neurological issues come 10 years earlier now than it used to 30 years ago.
And back to your statement: "would let their children die", do you have some facts about how many children would actually die than in the case of not taking the vaccine versus getting some other problem? Im not pro/anti vaccine but lets say its a love-hate relationship. You have to think more about the risk of not taking it to be able to know if you want to take the risk? But lets not pretend like taking vaccines is the only viable and healthy option. Take that Bird flu as a example. Which is a better alternative? Your kid goes thru the flu and nothing bad happens or he gets the vaccine and gets narcolepsy and has to live with that his whole life? There is no easy answer and you have to weigh the options, but how can you if the medical company hides the fact?
Then you can talk about what is really "fact" in diet and health. These things change all the time because we just don't know our selves good enough. Cholesterol is a good example that now has gotten eggs free from health ban and that they had anything to do with cholesterol in the first place. We just know more about space than our own bodies .
Hell have you ever heard anybody gotten well by eating Prozac etc? Why does healthcare concentrate on the issue and not the problem itself?!? Why would you need Prozac in the first place? But the obvious answer is money and business. Why would you treat a type II diabetic with medicine when eating healthier will do the same BUT it will increase your life expectancy, when taking medicine will not?!? You know why!
But anyways. It is well documented that cancer can disappear "on its own" and we really don't know for a fact why this is happening but my guess is as good as yours.
Perhaps Australia should do a better job of vetting its wild "gibsons"
before <span style="line-height:1.4em;">unleashing them on the rest of world...? </span>
:wow:
haaaaaheee that's brilliant and being an aussie (me) even funnier I may just have spread joke that like vegemite over here
Yes, the placebo effect is very real - and has good scientific research that establishes the degree to which it is effective.
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Do you have any credible published studies or even mainstream reports on the efficacy of placebos? My information is that placebos are no more effective than no medical treatment at all.
A quick search of the Placebo Effect indicates that it is the fact that some people "feel better" after having taken placebos. However, feeling better is not the same as doing better. We live in a time when feelings and beliefs trump objective documentary facts. Our mainstream media pander to our sentiments during these times. However, just because a patient believes that those two Reese's Pieces taken with each meal makes him feel better, doesn't mean that his infection is not ravaging his body.
Yes, the placebo effect is very real - and has good scientific research that establishes the degree to which it is effective.
...
Do you have any credible published studies or even mainstream reports on the efficacy of placebos? My information is that placebos are no more effective than no medical treatment at all.
A quick search of the Placebo Effect indicates that it is the fact that some people "feel better" after having taken placebos. However, feeling better is not the same as doing better. We live in a time when feelings and beliefs trump objective documentary facts. Our mainstream media pander to our sentiments during these times. However, just because a patient believes that those two Reese's Pieces taken with each meal makes him feel better, doesn't mean that his infection is not ravaging his body.
Based on your previous posts on this thread, I understand that you are not joking. This just makes you woefully mistaken. Placebos are used in the study of double-blind drug efficacy studies.
In double-blind studies, neither those administering the drugs nor those taking the drugs know whether any subject was given the drug under study or a placebo. The efficacy of the drug is measured by how much better those receiving the drugs do over those who receive placebos. If a drug is only as effective as the placebo, then it is rejected.
The notion that the Placebo Effect is real is an oxymoron. Placebo is the very definition of ineffective.
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That's all well and good, but the disputed thesis is that healthy eating can cure cancer. As far as I'm aware there is precisely zero scientific support for such a claim.
And my post just acknowledged that.
Though it is fascist to remove an app just because Apple doesn't like a certain developer or disagrees with what they have done in their personal life.
Welcome to 1984 (Oh.. The irony!)
Perhaps Australia should do a better job of vetting its wild "gibsons"
before unleashing them on the rest of world...?
And it took so looooooooong for this story to finally appear here... it's already such old news.
That's 'cuz lab rats are so cancer prone.
Medicine that works is medicine that has been demonstrated by plentiful, rigorous scientific double-blind peer-reviewed clinical (meaning laboratory-style) research to have a reliable probability of working.
Testimonials and anecdotal "evidence" by no matter how attractive and famous a former Playboy Bunny do not count as reliable scientific studies. They might indicate possible interesting avenues of research, but nothing more.
So-called alternative medicine that offers any absolute guarantees of efficacy or safety is also not real medicine. No genuine medicine, sadly, is 100% effective or 100% safe. Science can tell us the probability that a medicine will work and the probability that its side-effects are risky. Good medicine has a high probability of efficacy and a low probability of negative side-effects. Even Aspirin can cause death in an extremely tiny percentage of people, and it is a derivative of willow bark, a "natural" substance.
It is sad that so many people are still, in an age of enlightenment and wonderful advances in medicine, chasing after magical solutions to their health problems. That is partly because there are some medical problems for which there is simply no cure. At least not so far. In the meantime, charlatans exploit these situations to line their pockets.
Real medicine is often very costly too. In the US many people forgo treatment for lack of money, and even in Canada we are about the only country with publicly funded health care that does not also have a pharmacare programme. I think that is another opportunity for charlatans to profit from the misfortunes of vulnerable people.
The problem is that even traditional medicine is often based on smoke and mirrors in the form of placebos. And placebos are often effective. Therefore, it is easy to see how people try out alternative medicines, as even if they don't have any medicinal properties, the outcome will often be the same.
That was such a long time ago.
Yes, the placebo effect is very real - and has good scientific research that establishes the degree to which it is effective.
But remember my premise: there is only one kind of medicine, medicine that works. If a placebo works, that's fine.
There is a danger, however. There are many "natural" medications on the market that actually have no demonstrable effect. For example, if a product claims to reduce fever but has no ingredient that is shown by clinical trial to be more effective than a placebo, and one relies on it to reduce a child's fever, there is a real danger if the fever is not reduced. An uncontrolled fever in child can be life-threatening.
Our CBC did a programme on this by inventing a non-existent "natural" anti-fever medication they called Nighton (anagram of "nothing"), and were able to get Health Canada license to sell it based on unsubstantiated claims and a photocopy of a few pages from a naturopath's writings on the subject of fever. I know - but truth is sometimes stranger than fiction. Since there are no ingredients in Nighton, it is "harmless". Except if it were to lead to a child's fever being unmanaged.
This is as much a condemnation of Health Canada as it is a warning against products that have no scientific basis for their claims, but the following reference tells the whole story: https://sciencebasedpharmacy.wordpress.com/2015/03/15/bogus-childrens-remedy-invented-by-cbc-marketplace-approved-by-health-canada/
Are you one of those crazy people that is anti-vaccine too, and that would let their children die, because of their stupidity and ignorance?
Are you one of those that believe the healthcare industry without any kind of scrutiny over their "facts". The industry has been proven wrong AND even MANIPULATING FACTS so many times that I take anything they say with a grain of salt. Do you take vaccination for the flu? According to latest studies you are making it 3% less of a risk to have the flu, and so what happens then? Probably not much. And you are going to inject some mercury onto you blood system. I would read up on what that does for the human nervous system and brain. But I guess you trust that car salesman as well, or is that doctor (that gets benefits from the medical company) more reliable in your thoughts? Hell, Alzheimer's and other neurological issues come 10 years earlier now than it used to 30 years ago.
And back to your statement: "would let their children die", do you have some facts about how many children would actually die than in the case of not taking the vaccine versus getting some other problem? Im not pro/anti vaccine but lets say its a love-hate relationship. You have to think more about the risk of not taking it to be able to know if you want to take the risk? But lets not pretend like taking vaccines is the only viable and healthy option. Take that Bird flu as a example. Which is a better alternative? Your kid goes thru the flu and nothing bad happens or he gets the vaccine and gets narcolepsy and has to live with that his whole life? There is no easy answer and you have to weigh the options, but how can you if the medical company hides the fact?
Then you can talk about what is really "fact" in diet and health. These things change all the time because we just don't know our selves good enough. Cholesterol is a good example that now has gotten eggs free from health ban and that they had anything to do with cholesterol in the first place. We just know more about space than our own bodies
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Hell have you ever heard anybody gotten well by eating Prozac etc? Why does healthcare concentrate on the issue and not the problem itself?!? Why would you need Prozac in the first place? But the obvious answer is money and business. Why would you treat a type II diabetic with medicine when eating healthier will do the same BUT it will increase your life expectancy, when taking medicine will not?!? You know why!
But anyways. It is well documented that cancer can disappear "on its own" and we really don't know for a fact why this is happening but my guess is as good as yours.
Let's face it, people are predisposed to give attractive people a free pass.
Desperation can cause a person to believe anything in the effort to stay alive.
haaaaaheee that's brilliant and being an aussie (me) even funnier I may just have spread joke that like vegemite over here
Because an accurate medical diagnosis is difficult to come by and a "magical answer" is easy to understand and more attractive.
A quick search of the Placebo Effect indicates that it is the fact that some people "feel better" after having taken placebos. However, feeling better is not the same as doing better. We live in a time when feelings and beliefs trump objective documentary facts. Our mainstream media pander to our sentiments during these times. However, just because a patient believes that those two Reese's Pieces taken with each meal makes him feel better, doesn't mean that his infection is not ravaging his body.
Yes, the placebo effect is very real - and has good scientific research that establishes the degree to which it is effective.
...
Do you have any credible published studies or even mainstream reports on the efficacy of placebos? My information is that placebos are no more effective than no medical treatment at all.
A quick search of the Placebo Effect indicates that it is the fact that some people "feel better" after having taken placebos. However, feeling better is not the same as doing better. We live in a time when feelings and beliefs trump objective documentary facts. Our mainstream media pander to our sentiments during these times. However, just because a patient believes that those two Reese's Pieces taken with each meal makes him feel better, doesn't mean that his infection is not ravaging his body.
That's just your feeling.
Better to stick to objective documentary facts.
In double-blind studies, neither those administering the drugs nor those taking the drugs know whether any subject was given the drug under study or a placebo. The efficacy of the drug is measured by how much better those receiving the drugs do over those who receive placebos. If a drug is only as effective as the placebo, then it is rejected.
The notion that the Placebo Effect is real is an oxymoron. Placebo is the very definition of ineffective.