Wow, first you rush to post and "stupidly" include completely incorrect numbers. Then you fail at simple english comprehension, not once but twice in a row. It's not looking promising for you at all.
I'll take that as an admission that you can't refute my argument and aren't going to hurt your head trying.
Wow, first you rush to post and "stupidly" include completely incorrect numbers. Then you fail at simple english comprehension, not once but twice in a row. It's not looking promising for you at all.
Yep, the Android lovers are not liking ComScore today. While flawed, we have years and years and years of the same flawed data and it shows a long time trend of Android reaching peak usage a few years back and iOS doing a slow steady climb.
As he said, it was a typo, as I'm sure you realized. But, typo or not, the trend is clear. Android is moving down, and iOS is moving up. You can call something you aren't happy with rubbish, but that doesn't change the situation.
A lot of folks I know with Android phones are telling me they are going to switch. I tell them to wait until this fall when the new one is out. If the new phone does have the biggest improvement in camera on an iPhone as has been speculated, then I think it's only going snowball this year.
I'm holding out for Skylake. I don't know why. Maybe because.
Just for some perspective, by Google's own words, Android is on 400 OEMs and 4,000 distinct devices. Good context to keep in mind, when we see Apple, a SINGLE company that updates a single line of phones ONCE per year, is able to get numbers approaching 50% marketshare. Makes you realize how fucking asinine all the OMG ANDROID OUTSELLING APPLE YAY celebrations are.
Apple is being down-valued for not having overall market share against every Android smartphone company combined. It really does seem a bit unfair, but the game is played the way Wall Street wants it to be played. In the end it always comes down to, if the smartphone market growth slows down, it's always Apple's iPhone that will be hit the hardest. Not the dozens of smaller Android manufacturers, just Apple. They don't know that for certain but that's how they want to call it. It always comes down to who has the greatest market share but in this case Wall Street is talking about the platforms and not necessarily the companies. Wall Street can focus on whatever metric they want to and there's nothing Apple shareholders can do about it. It's obvious the iPhone is sucking most of the profits out of the smartphone industry by a wide margin, but it simply doesn't matter to Wall Street. No matter how many iPhones Apple sells, every quarter Wall Street claims iPhone growth will hit zero at some point in the near future. It's said that this is all the investors worry about constantly. That's why Apple's share price won't move.
With 43.1 percent of all U.S. smartphone subscribers choosing iPhone between the January and April, Apple extended its share of the market by 1.8 percent. Rival Samsung came in second, but saw its slice of the pie contract 0.7 percentage points to 28.6 percent during the same period.
This has been my best iPhone year by far, having sprung for a 128GB iPhone 6 Plus. Love the gold color and the Apple brand brown leather case. It's been my constant companion every day for eight months.
Being on AT&T's Next program, I'll be eligible to upgrade in four months, trading in this one for a 6S, assuming they'll be out around then.
This really is Apple's best iPhone ever, and I can't wait to just pony up the sales tax and get a new one in the fall.
A lot of folks I know with Android phones are telling me they are going to switch. I tell them to wait until this fall when the new one is out. If the new phone does have the biggest improvement in camera on an iPhone as has been speculated, then I think it's only going snowball this year.
Clues to be dropped next week... Even with the same camera in the next generation, there are a lot of other ways Apple could goose up the specs. I, for one, am holding out until this Fall... Life is good in the iUniverse.
Apple is being down-valued for not having overall market share against every Android smartphone company combined. It really does seem a bit unfair, but the game is played the way Wall Street wants it to be played. In the end it always comes down to, if the smartphone market growth slows down, it's always Apple's iPhone that will be hit the hardest. Not the dozens of smaller Android manufacturers, just Apple. They don't know that for certain but that's how they want to call it. It always comes down to who has the greatest market share but in this case Wall Street is talking about the platforms and not necessarily the companies. Wall Street can focus on whatever metric they want to and there's nothing Apple shareholders can do about it. It's obvious the iPhone is sucking most of the profits out of the smartphone industry by a wide margin, but it simply doesn't matter to Wall Street. No matter how many iPhones Apple sells, every quarter Wall Street claims iPhone growth will hit zero at some point in the near future. It's said that this is all the investors worry about constantly. That's why Apple's share price won't move.
Wall Street is not known for being future-sighted, but rather back-sighted. The one thing I see regarding Apple is a company who is not caught up in making a good-looking quarter or even an strong annual showing. Rather I see Apple playing the long game. This is the one factor that sets Apple apart from most companies, and certainly from the Tech industry.
Apple has a multi-year plan to leverage all their current products to build a synergistic compelling reason to keep their customers locked into the ecosystem. I can't imagine what new products Apple will introduce but those new products will be like the Apple Watch in making the iPhone and iTunes more central to the Apple Watch experience, while enhancing the value of the iPhone and iTunes. As long as Apple keeps increasing the utility of products, people will continue to upgrade their products to take advantage of the new features.
I don't see other smart phone manufactures leading the market in innovation as strongly as does Apple. Apple's profits from sales is strong enough to fuel long term innovation and product development. Even Samsung doesn't have anything near such a money machine, while they are also more focused on the current annual or quarterly performances. When the iPhone's growth begins to slow, The new products Apple includes will gravitate toward the center of their ecosystem and be the new money machine all the while enhancing the customer captivity within the ecosystem for all of Apple's products.
Just for some perspective, by Google's own words, Android is on 400 OEMs and 4,000 distinct devices.
I suspect Google also included in their numbers Android phones that are "feature phones or even "dumb phones." In addition, Google may include in those numbers tablets that function as dedicated game devices or "readers" like Amazon's Kindles. There are certainly a wealth of crippled Android devices that on one the market for the sole purpose of separating unsophisticated buyers from a somewhat painless amount of money.
Evidence analysis is not your forte. Your two-word post has more errors than words.
1) This story is about usage share, not sales. The two cannot be directly compared as the iPhone is used far longer than any Android phone. Hell, most 2010 iPhone 4s are still in use as hand-me-downs, while Androids from that era reached the landfill years ago. iOS's worldwide usage is indisputably higher than its sales percentage- these are two different things.
2) 'Android' is not a world-wide phenomenon. Many of the phones you are calling 'Android' are Xiami AOSP phones, which provide a radically different Google-free experience.
I suspect Google also included in their numbers Android phones that are "feature phones or even "dumb phones." In addition, Google may include in those numbers tablets that function as dedicated game devices or "readers" like Amazon's Kindles. There are certainly a wealth of crippled Android devices that on one the market for the sole purpose of separating unsophisticated buyers from a somewhat painless amount of money.
Can you name some of these Android phones which are "feature phones" or "dumb phones"?
Can you name some of these Android phones which are "feature phones" or "dumb phones"?
Thanks
Without naming specific phones, I think you can speculate to a certain extent which "smartphones" are being used as "feature phones" just by the OS install base.
Everything using below 4.4 Android in this "speculative" case:
Wait, Samsung introduced S6 on 4/10. If the market share still decreased from Jan, I guess it didn't sell that well(or at least not as well as what samsung is telling the media).
..not as well as what Samsung and some posters here (ccnobucci or something like this) is telling us, unsurprisingly. (Only a fool will believe Samsung number)
My housemaid’s using an Android phone. I’m glad that you’re happy she contributed to Android eco-system. lol. What a pathetic mentality. Clinging to the shit phone sale number.
My housemaid’s using an Android phone. I’m glad that you’re happy she contributed to Android eco-system. lol. What a pathetic mentality. Clinging to the shit phone sale number.
Is part of your point that hired help can only afford , or isn't intelligent enough to have, anything other than an Android phone while the Master of the house can have an iPhone? If not why mention she's your housemaid? It comes off sounding elitist, but perhaps unintentionally.
I suspect Google also included in their numbers Android phones that are "feature phones or even "dumb phones." In addition, Google may include in those numbers tablets that function as dedicated game devices or "readers" like Amazon's Kindles. There are certainly a wealth of crippled Android devices that on one the market for the sole purpose of separating unsophisticated buyers from a somewhat painless amount of money.
The numbers Google offers are sourced from the devices using Google Play and over a 7-day span for each month.
"Note: This data is gathered from the new Google Play Store app, which supports Android 2.2 and above, so devices running older versions are not included. However, in August, 2013, versions older than Android 2.2 accounted for about 1% of devices that checked in to Google servers (not those that actually visited Google Play Store)."
That would not include Kindles since they use Amazon's own app store. Chinese owners for the most part would also be excluded for the same reason as would those "flash drives with pirated movies" sometimes mentioned here. By the way has anyone here ever seen one of those?
IMHO if the smartphone owner is visiting Google Play than they would probably not be using their phone solely as a "dumb phone" anyway.
Without naming specific phones, I think you can speculate to a certain extent which "smartphones" are being used as "feature phones" just by the OS install base.
Everything using below 4.4 Android in this "speculative" case:
So using your suggested measuring stick most Google Android phones in use would be smartphones and not what you referred to as "feature phones", correct?
EDIT: Just noticed your chart was dated the end of last year.
Just for some perspective, by Google's own words, Android is on 400 OEMs and 4,000 distinct devices. Good context to keep in mind, when we see Apple, a SINGLE company that updates a single line of phones ONCE per year, is able to get numbers approaching 50% marketshare. Makes you realize how fucking asinine all the OMG ANDROID OUTSELLING APPLE YAY celebrations are.
How many of those 400 OEMs sell devices in the US?
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Wow, first you rush to post and "stupidly" include completely incorrect numbers. Then you fail at simple english comprehension, not once but twice in a row. It's not looking promising for you at all.
I'll take that as an admission that you can't refute my argument and aren't going to hurt your head trying.
I'll take that as an admission that you can't refute my argument and aren't going to hurt your head trying.
Keep digging :-)
As he said, it was a typo, as I'm sure you realized. But, typo or not, the trend is clear. Android is moving down, and iOS is moving up. You can call something you aren't happy with rubbish, but that doesn't change the situation.
I'm holding out for Skylake. I don't know why. Maybe because.
Just for some perspective, by Google's own words, Android is on 400 OEMs and 4,000 distinct devices. Good context to keep in mind, when we see Apple, a SINGLE company that updates a single line of phones ONCE per year, is able to get numbers approaching 50% marketshare. Makes you realize how fucking asinine all the OMG ANDROID OUTSELLING APPLE YAY celebrations are.
Apple is being down-valued for not having overall market share against every Android smartphone company combined. It really does seem a bit unfair, but the game is played the way Wall Street wants it to be played. In the end it always comes down to, if the smartphone market growth slows down, it's always Apple's iPhone that will be hit the hardest. Not the dozens of smaller Android manufacturers, just Apple. They don't know that for certain but that's how they want to call it. It always comes down to who has the greatest market share but in this case Wall Street is talking about the platforms and not necessarily the companies. Wall Street can focus on whatever metric they want to and there's nothing Apple shareholders can do about it. It's obvious the iPhone is sucking most of the profits out of the smartphone industry by a wide margin, but it simply doesn't matter to Wall Street. No matter how many iPhones Apple sells, every quarter Wall Street claims iPhone growth will hit zero at some point in the near future. It's said that this is all the investors worry about constantly. That's why Apple's share price won't move.
With 43.1 percent of all U.S. smartphone subscribers choosing iPhone between the January and April, Apple extended its share of the market by 1.8 percent. Rival Samsung came in second, but saw its slice of the pie contract 0.7 percentage points to 28.6 percent during the same period.
"Winning."
This has been my best iPhone year by far, having sprung for a 128GB iPhone 6 Plus. Love the gold color and the Apple brand brown leather case. It's been my constant companion every day for eight months.
Being on AT&T's Next program, I'll be eligible to upgrade in four months, trading in this one for a 6S, assuming they'll be out around then.
This really is Apple's best iPhone ever, and I can't wait to just pony up the sales tax and get a new one in the fall.
Clues to be dropped next week... Even with the same camera in the next generation, there are a lot of other ways Apple could goose up the specs. I, for one, am holding out until this Fall... Life is good in the iUniverse.
Wall Street is not known for being future-sighted, but rather back-sighted. The one thing I see regarding Apple is a company who is not caught up in making a good-looking quarter or even an strong annual showing. Rather I see Apple playing the long game. This is the one factor that sets Apple apart from most companies, and certainly from the Tech industry.
Apple has a multi-year plan to leverage all their current products to build a synergistic compelling reason to keep their customers locked into the ecosystem. I can't imagine what new products Apple will introduce but those new products will be like the Apple Watch in making the iPhone and iTunes more central to the Apple Watch experience, while enhancing the value of the iPhone and iTunes. As long as Apple keeps increasing the utility of products, people will continue to upgrade their products to take advantage of the new features.
I don't see other smart phone manufactures leading the market in innovation as strongly as does Apple. Apple's profits from sales is strong enough to fuel long term innovation and product development. Even Samsung doesn't have anything near such a money machine, while they are also more focused on the current annual or quarterly performances. When the iPhone's growth begins to slow, The new products Apple includes will gravitate toward the center of their ecosystem and be the new money machine all the while enhancing the customer captivity within the ecosystem for all of Apple's products.
I suspect Google also included in their numbers Android phones that are "feature phones or even "dumb phones." In addition, Google may include in those numbers tablets that function as dedicated game devices or "readers" like Amazon's Kindles. There are certainly a wealth of crippled Android devices that on one the market for the sole purpose of separating unsophisticated buyers from a somewhat painless amount of money.
What are you using as a basis for your claim?
What are you using as a basis for your claim?
Can you name some of these Android phones which are "feature phones" or "dumb phones"?
Thanks
Without naming specific phones, I think you can speculate to a certain extent which "smartphones" are being used as "feature phones" just by the OS install base.
Everything using below 4.4 Android in this "speculative" case:
Wait, Samsung introduced S6 on 4/10. If the market share still decreased from Jan, I guess it didn't sell that well(or at least not as well as what samsung is telling the media).
..not as well as what Samsung and some posters here (ccnobucci or something like this) is telling us, unsurprisingly. (Only a fool will believe Samsung number)
Meanwhile worldwide
My housemaid’s using an Android phone. I’m glad that you’re happy she contributed to Android eco-system. lol. What a pathetic mentality. Clinging to the shit phone sale number.
"Note: This data is gathered from the new Google Play Store app, which supports Android 2.2 and above, so devices running older versions are not included. However, in August, 2013, versions older than Android 2.2 accounted for about 1% of devices that checked in to Google servers (not those that actually visited Google Play Store)."
That would not include Kindles since they use Amazon's own app store. Chinese owners for the most part would also be excluded for the same reason as would those "flash drives with pirated movies" sometimes mentioned here. By the way has anyone here ever seen one of those?
IMHO if the smartphone owner is visiting Google Play than they would probably not be using their phone solely as a "dumb phone" anyway.
https://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html?utm_source=suzunone
So using your suggested measuring stick most Google Android phones in use would be smartphones and not what you referred to as "feature phones", correct?
EDIT: Just noticed your chart was dated the end of last year.
How many of those 400 OEMs sell devices in the US?