kdjohn3 wrote: »
This is the same firm that predicted in 2011 that Windows Phone would overtake the iPhone by 2015. Why is anyone still paying attention to these clowns?
How is the Chinese smartphone market NOT going to grow when China Mobile is busy expanding their 4G network as we speak? I believe that only 15-20% of their 800 million subscribers are on 4G now. China Mobile will hire the iPhone to push adoption and help pay for this expansion because iPhone users use data services much more than others.
Apple doesn't care about marketshare. They want to release a high quality product in many markets/locations, but total world domination has never been in their DNA.
icoco3 wrote: »
As a collective, they sell a lot of phones. Individually, they don't have the profits. Without the profits there will come a time where individual manufacturers will be squeezed out of the market.
chrisrankin wrote: »
And Ferrari doesn't compete with Kia. Nor does it want to.
icoco3 wrote: »
Hey IDC...how about breaking it down to companies that actually make phones instead of the fictitious company called Android you have them competing against.
davewrite wrote: »
CNN on IDC 2011:
"They (IDC) predict that Microsoft's all-but-dead-on-arrival Windows Phone 7 platform will outsell BlackBerry and, yes, the iPhone by 2015.
Four years from now, Microsoft (MSFT, Fortune 500) will have gained 21% of the smartphone market, IDC forecasts, up from just 5.5% at the end of this year. That's good enough for second place, trailing Google's Android OS. Windows Phone 7 is currently mired in fifth place."
asdasd wrote: »
Those arguments are spurious since iOS is a platform. Similar arguments were made for the Mac during its 2% of the market era. iOS is in much better shape and in fact will I think win both market share and increase unit share over the next 4 years. Proof is that IDC think they won't.
suddenly newton wrote: »
Part of the anti-iOS campaign has been to insinuate that iOS is (or will soon be) a niche against "standard" Android. But Android is so fractured, it's ironically the other way around for app authors and third party accessory makers, and iPhone ends up with a stronger, more popular and profitable ecosystem than Samsung, Xiaomi, or LG, let alone the larger small players like HTC, Amazon, Sony, Moto, etc, along with the (literally) tens of thousands of "white box" manufacturers in the long tail using some ancient fork derived from Gingerbread or Froyo.
Fitst, their projection of Apple shipping 269 million iPhones in 2019 is a bit conservative. After selling 193 million in 2014, Apple has already sold 186 million in the first three fiscal quarters of 2015, with another 45-50 million to be sold this quarter. So that's already 230-235 million in 2015. As India and other large markets grow, cheap android phones will lead the way, and this (as stated above by Ken_Sanders) is the reason why Android will retain its high market share numbers, with Apple following on its heels absorbing high value customers and increasing unit sales each year.
But as others have stated, at least IDC has recognized that Apple doesn't care about market share, as well they shouldn't. From my own previous writings on the topic...
ken_sanders_aia wrote: »
Yet another speculative, uninformed IDC report. The article fails to recognize the exploding middle-class in such 'price sensitive' markets such as China and India. The new class of consumers in those markets are just as interested, if not more so, in brands and quality and user experience than US consumers. To portray those markets as perpetually 'price sensitive' (meaning impoverished) is both arrogant and ignorant of global economic and social trends.
For example, it's remarkably easy to find people on the street in China, India and Brazil using and loving FaceTime. (Yes, it helps to actually visit the places one writes about and look around.) Note to IDC: your so-called 'price-sensitive' consumers are becoming smart shoppers and totally get the difference between iOS and Android. Android remains a fragmented mess, users cannot get updates through carriers, who themselves can't resist loading up their own messy bloatware onto the phones they sell. Android remains a buggy, virus-plagued platform.
I predict that Apple will continue to increase their market share against Android in emerging markets as Apple continues to grow their distribution and sales channels. Let's compare notes again in another year, shall we?
Yes and at the same time I know many MS employees use the iPhone by their choice.
Of course they dare not be caught with an iPhone at work !
With IDC's usually dumb evaluations and predictions I wonder what IDC stands for ?
So I'll start with my suggestion, please join in people.
"Ignorant Data Collector"
Market share is not an issue as long as it is enough to sustain the ecosystem. That was the problem back in the lean Mac years. Mac just didn't have enough market share to support professional software development. If not for Adobe and in some part, Macromedia, and also the very profitable printing and design industries, it probably would have gone under. Right now with 20% market share for iOS, and a user base that has the willingness to upgrade often, buy apps, media and accessories, there shouldn't be any concerns, but lets hope it does not fall below that level. I think that 10% is sort of a threshold that we definitely do not want to test. Somewhat surprisingly, Mac at 10% market share these days seems to be relatively robust.
That analogy gets a little weak. @EricTheHalfBee got it right. If you compare McDonalds to the combination of every other burger restaurant in the US, McDonalds might have a similar market share as Apple does in mobile devices. You can't start throwing in Chinese food or TV sets.
iOS Doesn't Count