The screen on the Samsung flagships are simply gorgeous and unmatched by any other in my opinion. Even if it drains more battery, they are the best phone screens on the planet.
I would love for Apple to get that screen on their phones with a slightly bigger battery to compensate if necessary even if that means not being thinner. It simply looks that good to me versus every other phone on the market.
The one thing that I always use, no matter what I am doing when looking at my phone is the screen. I just don't think I want to buy an S6 or Note 5 to get it.
They're hideously inaccurate. You just think they're nice. Its the same way TV's in the store are cranked up to max settings; you think it's nice but its awful.
You are correct about one thing, I do think they are nice.
It's a great display that looks fabulous in person and has resoundingly gotten great reviews. I suggest you go to a store and play with one and play with the brightness and all the settings if you haven't already.
They're hideously inaccurate. You just think they're nice. Its the same way TV's in the store are cranked up to max settings; you think it's nice but its awful.
Actually it's the most accurate display ever made. See the link below. I've included quotes in case you don't care to take the link.
"Even better, the measured Absolute Color Accuracy for the Note 5 Basic screen mode is an impressive 1.4 JNCD, the most color accurate display that we have ever measured for a Smartphone or Tablet, which is visually indistinguishable from perfect..."
"When Automatic Brightness is turned On, the Galaxy Note 5 produces up to an impressive 861 cd/m2 (nits) in High Ambient Light, where high Brightness is really needed – it is the brightest mobile display that we have ever tested. As a result of its high Brightness and low Reflectance, the Galaxy Note 5 has a Contrast Rating for High Ambient Light that ranges from 118 to183, also the highest that we have ever measured for any mobile display."
"The Galaxy Note 5 matches or breaks new records in Smartphone display performance for:
Highest Absolute Color Accuracy (1.4 JNCD), Highest Peak Brightness (861 nits), Highest Contrast Rating in Ambient Light (183), Highest Screen Resolution (2560x1440), Highest (infinite) Contrast Ratio, and Smallest Brightness Variation with Viewing Angle (24 percent). In addition, almost every display lab test and measurement shows some improvements compared to the Galaxy Note 4, the previous record holder, including slightly lower Screen Reflectance (4.7 percent), an 18 to 23 percent improvement display Brightness, and a 21 percent improvement in display power efficiency, so the Note 5 display actually uses less power than the Note 4 in spite of its much higher brightness."
Actually it's the most accurate display ever made.
I can't begin to imagine the world you live in where you see a single test by single person to claim something like "most accurate display ever made." Did he say that? If so, his credintonlas are even more specious. The best you could say is "I believe it's the most accurate display ever made" or "This is the most accurate display he's tested." That's it!
I'll ask you, do you really think think this mass produced, consumer display is the "most accurate display ever made"?
The comments show people fon't want thinness at the expense of battery life or other features.
I could see Apple solving the run time problem with new battery technology. That could be improved lithium solutions or something completely different.
If you can't see that key difference over claiming that everyone wants the phone to get bigger with no declaration of what it would cost in usability," then I see no hope for you, because these comments show they don't want thinness at the cost of usability. IOW, what they are saying is "it's already thin enough," and/or "I could stand it to be a little thicker." If someone even stated, I would like it to be thicker, by 1mm and weigh no more than 2 more ounces to get additional battery, that would be fine, but you do any of that. You're the reason we have the idiom "Be careful what you wish for."
The thing here is that each time Apple has made a thinner iPhine the thing sells like hot cakes. No matter what we see in the forums thin sells. Bigger sells too which I find frustrating because I really don't want a bigger iPhone.
Honestly folks I don't see Apple ever stopping with the thin focus. Eventually we will have roll up iPhones that aren much thicker than the cardboard in a cereal box. Hell implantable iPhones could be in the future.
Actually it's the most accurate display ever made.
I can't begin to imagine the world you live in where you see a single test by single person to claim something like "most accurate display ever made." Did he say that? If so, his credintonlas are even more specious. The best you could say is "I believe it's the most accurate display ever made" or "This is the most accurate display he's tested." That's it!
I'll ask you, do you really think think this mass produced, consumer display is the "most accurate display ever made"?
All I can say is go to a store and play with one. Adjust it however to your liking.
To my eyes Samsung with out a doubt makes the best flagship cell phone screens on the market.
Are the devices thick enough to take USB-C now, much less if they go thinner?
Interesting question to which I don't have an answer at the moment. My concern is that if the trend is for mobile devices to replace desktops and laptops (for many users) then you need a high speed, flexible I/O port. Even off well into the future there will be uses where a wired connection makes more sense than an RF connection.
All these people blindly asking for a "bigger, heavier battery" are really asking for "more usage time from a single full charge." They should be forgiven for not expressing themselves more clearly, and trying to tell Apple how to engineer their hardware.
Personally, I think Apple's future belongs to denser, more efficient batteries, multi-day fuel cells, and/or more power savings from OS optimizations. Thinking outside the thicker box, so to speak.
I could see Apple solving the run time problem with new battery technology. That could be improved lithium solutions or something completely different.
Has that technology allowed for denser energy store for a given mass and/or size since the first iPhone? I know the lifecycle of the battery tripled, but it seems nearly all — if not all — gains in battery life for a given Whr were gained through more power efficient components and code.
Honestly folks I don't see Apple ever stopping with the thin focus. Eventually we will have roll up iPhones that aren much thicker than the cardboard in a cereal box. Hell implantable iPhones could be in the future.
1) Just like thickness has an upper-limit that becomes unusable for our hands, so does thinness. They will have to stop. The question will be whether there is bottoming out before there is a radical shift in the technology. My guess would be a bottoming out on thinness.
2) Implantable could work, but rolled up seems like an inconvenience for a CE you want in your hand so often.
Really, though, Apple's going to have to get off the thin train eventually. They already went arguably too far with the new MacBook, which defeats the purpose of the aluminum unibody by compromising stiffness.
The MacBook does creak a bit more than the MacBook Air, but I like the thinness. Perhaps they can switch to 7000 Series aluminum at some point.
As if the bend gate is not enough. Keep it as thin as iPhone 6 and give us longer cruise battery
Bendgate was a manufactured campaign by Unbox Therapy to promote their YouTube channel. Apple's reputation suffered because it was a viral meme that got repeated on social media. A minority of Apple users reported bent phones, but it did not appear to have any measurable impact on iPhone 6 sales.
The thing that bothers me is that the HTC and Samsung S6 Edge were just as easy to bend (or in the case of the HTC, easier) in instrumented testing, but this fact failed to become a viral meme ("bendgate"), and Unbox Therapy failed to give a shit about those easily bent phones.
I'd love to see a thinner iPhone 7 as that would have to imply a new camera tech; perhaps the dual periscope, light channel tech we heard about some time ago.
If you can't see that key difference over claiming that everyone wants the phone to get bigger with no declaration of what it would cost in usability," then I see no hope for you, because these comments show they don't want thinness at the cost of usability. IOW, what they are saying is "it's already thin enough," and/or "I could stand it to be a little thicker." If someone even stated, I would like it to be thicker, by 1mm and weigh no more than 2 more ounces to get additional battery, that would be fine, but you do any of that. You're the reason we have the idiom "Be careful what you wish for."
You couldn't be any more wrong. On a thread which talked about the iPhone 6S getting thinner, I posted:
"Instead of making it thinner, if given a choice, I would rather see them use that extra space for a bigger battery - and that if other iPhone users were surveyed, I think the vast majority of them would also prefer to have a bigger battery."
So - what is wrong with that statement? Nothing! It's obvious from the context that I was talking about this particular upgrade cycle - from the 6 to the 6s. I didn't say that Apple should do this as a general design principle. I didn't say they should make it bigger or trade off anything in terms of features or usability! I also didn't say Apple should do this at all!!! LOL. All I said was make up a hypothetical situation and convey my preference! I didn't say Apple made a mistake and they SHOULD do this. I didn't threaten to switch platforms! The only thing you could actually dispute in my statement is my supposition that "the vast majority of iPhone users" would agree with me - and if that's what you believe, then that's fine. Since there is no actual survey asking that exact question, we'd have to agree to disagree on that point.
You've jumped all over my carefully worded and completely accurate statements in which I shares a personal opinion about a very specific hypothetical choice! It's amusing that you then go as far as to claim that *I* am the one having trouble understanding. Go back to the other thread and re-read my actual words on the subject. If you do - you'll realize that you've misread them completely and/or mixed me up with somebody else.
Either way - I'd expect to see you back here sporting an apology - or with a direct quote proving any one of your ridiculous claims that I presented my opinion in an incorrect manner!
Bendgate was a manufactured campaign by Unbox Therapy to promote their YouTube channel. Apple's reputation suffered because it was a viral meme that got repeated on social media. A minority of Apple users reported bent phones, but it did not appear to have any measurable impact on iPhone 6 sales.
The thing that bothers me is that the HTC and Samsung S6 Edge were just as easy to bend (or in the case of the HTC, easier) in instrumented testing, but this fact failed to become a viral meme ("bendgate"), and Unbox Therapy failed to give a shit about those easily bent phones.
After that we then heard about all these other bent phone from being sat on in people's back pockets or in some other unfortunate position. There were videos and blogs that noted these other devices for years but those never got any traction because they don't have the mindshare Apple and the iPhone have so ultimately Apple wins here, even if they had to give lip service by changing the 2015 casing (and possibly some components) on a fast track for a redesign knowing it would be tested this year. I wonder how much stronger they felt they had to make it shut people up? IOW, was their goal to best what every other phone company had, or they thought would have, in order to show superiority in design and engineering, go the opposite direction by making it inline with the iPhone 5S (which was smaller thus giving it an advantage), or somewhere in between? Once we find that out, for iPhone 6S-series buyers, what does that mean to us in terms of value? For instance, if they went to the maximum what do we lose in terms of space for the battery or components, or even cost of design and manufacturing that might result in Apple reducing cost elsewhere to maintain their margins?
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The screen on the Samsung flagships are simply gorgeous and unmatched by any other in my opinion. Even if it drains more battery, they are the best phone screens on the planet.
I would love for Apple to get that screen on their phones with a slightly bigger battery to compensate if necessary even if that means not being thinner. It simply looks that good to me versus every other phone on the market.
The one thing that I always use, no matter what I am doing when looking at my phone is the screen. I just don't think I want to buy an S6 or Note 5 to get it.
They're hideously inaccurate. You just think they're nice. Its the same way TV's in the store are cranked up to max settings; you think it's nice but its awful.
You are correct about one thing, I do think they are nice.
It's a great display that looks fabulous in person and has resoundingly gotten great reviews. I suggest you go to a store and play with one and play with the brightness and all the settings if you haven't already.
My opinion is not unfounded. It's a great screen.
Sturdy
Actually it's the most accurate display ever made. See the link below. I've included quotes in case you don't care to take the link.
http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note5_ShootOut_1.htm
"Even better, the measured Absolute Color Accuracy for the Note 5 Basic screen mode is an impressive 1.4 JNCD, the most color accurate display that we have ever measured for a Smartphone or Tablet, which is visually indistinguishable from perfect..."
"When Automatic Brightness is turned On, the Galaxy Note 5 produces up to an impressive 861 cd/m2 (nits) in High Ambient Light, where high Brightness is really needed – it is the brightest mobile display that we have ever tested. As a result of its high Brightness and low Reflectance, the Galaxy Note 5 has a Contrast Rating for High Ambient Light that ranges from 118 to183, also the highest that we have ever measured for any mobile display."
"The Galaxy Note 5 matches or breaks new records in Smartphone display performance for:
Highest Absolute Color Accuracy (1.4 JNCD), Highest Peak Brightness (861 nits), Highest Contrast Rating in Ambient Light (183), Highest Screen Resolution (2560x1440), Highest (infinite) Contrast Ratio, and Smallest Brightness Variation with Viewing Angle (24 percent). In addition, almost every display lab test and measurement shows some improvements compared to the Galaxy Note 4, the previous record holder, including slightly lower Screen Reflectance (4.7 percent), an 18 to 23 percent improvement display Brightness, and a 21 percent improvement in display power efficiency, so the Note 5 display actually uses less power than the Note 4 in spite of its much higher brightness."
A big +++ on this one. Even more importantly do away with MiFi.
I can't begin to imagine the world you live in where you see a single test by single person to claim something like "most accurate display ever made." Did he say that? If so, his credintonlas are even more specious. The best you could say is "I believe it's the most accurate display ever made" or "This is the most accurate display he's tested." That's it!
I'll ask you, do you really think think this mass produced, consumer display is the "most accurate display ever made"?
Are the devices thick enough to take USB-C now, much less if they go thinner?
The thing here is that each time Apple has made a thinner iPhine the thing sells like hot cakes. No matter what we see in the forums thin sells. Bigger sells too which I find frustrating because I really don't want a bigger iPhone.
Honestly folks I don't see Apple ever stopping with the thin focus. Eventually we will have roll up iPhones that aren much thicker than the cardboard in a cereal box. Hell implantable iPhones could be in the future.
Actually it's the most accurate display ever made.
I can't begin to imagine the world you live in where you see a single test by single person to claim something like "most accurate display ever made." Did he say that? If so, his credintonlas are even more specious. The best you could say is "I believe it's the most accurate display ever made" or "This is the most accurate display he's tested." That's it!
I'll ask you, do you really think think this mass produced, consumer display is the "most accurate display ever made"?
All I can say is go to a store and play with one. Adjust it however to your liking.
To my eyes Samsung with out a doubt makes the best flagship cell phone screens on the market.
Edit: fixed typo from "an" to "and"
Interesting question to which I don't have an answer at the moment. My concern is that if the trend is for mobile devices to replace desktops and laptops (for many users) then you need a high speed, flexible I/O port. Even off well into the future there will be uses where a wired connection makes more sense than an RF connection.
Personally, I think Apple's future belongs to denser, more efficient batteries, multi-day fuel cells, and/or more power savings from OS optimizations. Thinking outside the thicker box, so to speak.
Has that technology allowed for denser energy store for a given mass and/or size since the first iPhone? I know the lifecycle of the battery tripled, but it seems nearly all — if not all — gains in battery life for a given Whr were gained through more power efficient components and code.
1) Just like thickness has an upper-limit that becomes unusable for our hands, so does thinness. They will have to stop. The question will be whether there is bottoming out before there is a radical shift in the technology. My guess would be a bottoming out on thinness.
2) Implantable could work, but rolled up seems like an inconvenience for a CE you want in your hand so often.
That's a perfectly reasonable statement.
Don't use Sprint or T-Mobile then.
Really, though, Apple's going to have to get off the thin train eventually. They already went arguably too far with the new MacBook, which defeats the purpose of the aluminum unibody by compromising stiffness.
The MacBook does creak a bit more than the MacBook Air, but I like the thinness. Perhaps they can switch to 7000 Series aluminum at some point.
I can't speak for iPhones but I definitely need to get thinner.
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Bendgate was a manufactured campaign by Unbox Therapy to promote their YouTube channel. Apple's reputation suffered because it was a viral meme that got repeated on social media. A minority of Apple users reported bent phones, but it did not appear to have any measurable impact on iPhone 6 sales.
The thing that bothers me is that the HTC and Samsung S6 Edge were just as easy to bend (or in the case of the HTC, easier) in instrumented testing, but this fact failed to become a viral meme ("bendgate"), and Unbox Therapy failed to give a shit about those easily bent phones.
"Instead of making it thinner, if given a choice, I would rather see them use that extra space for a bigger battery - and that if other iPhone users were surveyed, I think the vast majority of them would also prefer to have a bigger battery."
So - what is wrong with that statement? Nothing! It's obvious from the context that I was talking about this particular upgrade cycle - from the 6 to the 6s. I didn't say that Apple should do this as a general design principle. I didn't say they should make it bigger or trade off anything in terms of features or usability! I also didn't say Apple should do this at all!!! LOL. All I said was make up a hypothetical situation and convey my preference! I didn't say Apple made a mistake and they SHOULD do this. I didn't threaten to switch platforms! The only thing you could actually dispute in my statement is my supposition that "the vast majority of iPhone users" would agree with me - and if that's what you believe, then that's fine. Since there is no actual survey asking that exact question, we'd have to agree to disagree on that point.
You've jumped all over my carefully worded and completely accurate statements in which I shares a personal opinion about a very specific hypothetical choice! It's amusing that you then go as far as to claim that *I* am the one having trouble understanding. Go back to the other thread and re-read my actual words on the subject. If you do - you'll realize that you've misread them completely and/or mixed me up with somebody else.
Either way - I'd expect to see you back here sporting an apology - or with a direct quote proving any one of your ridiculous claims that I presented my opinion in an incorrect manner!
After that we then heard about all these other bent phone from being sat on in people's back pockets or in some other unfortunate position. There were videos and blogs that noted these other devices for years but those never got any traction because they don't have the mindshare Apple and the iPhone have so ultimately Apple wins here, even if they had to give lip service by changing the 2015 casing (and possibly some components) on a fast track for a redesign knowing it would be tested this year. I wonder how much stronger they felt they had to make it shut people up? IOW, was their goal to best what every other phone company had, or they thought would have, in order to show superiority in design and engineering, go the opposite direction by making it inline with the iPhone 5S (which was smaller thus giving it an advantage), or somewhere in between? Once we find that out, for iPhone 6S-series buyers, what does that mean to us in terms of value? For instance, if they went to the maximum what do we lose in terms of space for the battery or components, or even cost of design and manufacturing that might result in Apple reducing cost elsewhere to maintain their margins?