Apple CEO Tim Cook attends secret meeting with tech and government elite to plot end to Trump presi

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  • Reply 121 of 180
    Urei1620Urei1620 Posts: 88member
    foggyhill said:
    Urei1620 said:

    Agreed. There are no good choices here. I am a Bernie supporter and wish that he come through. However, if it comes down to Hillary and Trump and a gun on my head, I would have to give it to Trump.
    Voting to someone whose going to rip your world apart to spite HRC? Seriously?
    That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
    Maybe someone should just give you the gun instead so you can do the only honorable thing in that situation... Use it.... And thus not vote.

    No offense, but your madness is very Trump-like.
    edited March 2016 designr
  • Reply 122 of 180
    Urei1620Urei1620 Posts: 88member
    tmay said:
    Urei1620 said:

    Agreed. There are no good choices here. I am a Bernie supporter and wish that he come through. However, if it comes down to Hillary and Trump and a gun on my head, I would have to give it to Trump.
    That's why I love Bernie supporters; they feel so entitled to cut their own throats. Don't let me stand in your way.

    Let me guess, you like the witch.
    designr
  • Reply 123 of 180
    apple ][ said:
    Haha, the elites are getting more and more desperate. How pathetic.

    Any fascist elites who believe that they have the right to dictate who the common man votes for should probably all move to North Korea, as they would fit in much better there.


    In point of fact, the "elites" you mock are not "dictating" anything, only their right to express opposition to a clear menace to our country, as the elites in Germany failed to do. Actually, Apple][, YOU would be happier in North Korea, so infatuated you appear to be with an infantile, authoritarian, bully.
    aaronjdysamoria
  • Reply 124 of 180
    tmaytmay Posts: 6,453member
    Urei1620 said:
    tmay said:
    That's why I love Bernie supporters; they feel so entitled to cut their own throats. Don't let me stand in your way.

    Let me guess, you like the witch.
    That's why we can't have nice things in America; people as yourself are so upfront and proud of their misogynist behavior.

    As a tall, white male with long fingers, I'm seeing a whole lot of white privilege in Bernie's ranks and that might be why he hasn't a chance in hell of winning the primary. I'm thinking that you are a better fit with Trump.
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    aaronjaaronj Posts: 1,595member
    apple ][ said:
    Haha, the elites are getting more and more desperate. How pathetic.

    Any fascist elites who believe that they have the right to dictate who the common man votes for should probably all move to North Korea, as they would fit in much better there.


    In point of fact, the "elites" you mock are not "dictating" anything, only their right to express opposition to a clear menace to our country, as the elites in Germany failed to do. Actually, Apple][, YOU would be happier in North Korea, so infatuated you appear to be with an infantile, authoritarian, bully.
    That made me laugh out loud. :)

    I'd never really thought of it before, but Drumpf and Kim Jong-un actually do share a lot of qualities.  Scary.  Heh.
    dysamoria
  • Reply 126 of 180
    fallenjtfallenjt Posts: 4,056member
    pigybank said:
    rob53 said:
    It's not interfering, it's what's always done during an election. These people see Trump as a genuine threat to the US and it's their right to get together to plan ways to educate the voters so he doesn't get elected.

    I'm sure all the non-Americans watching this fiasco are laughing their a**es off. It's amazing how many laws he's breaking while forcing his freedom of speech onto so many sheep. If he was the president and said half the things he's saying right now, he'd be put in jail. If you don't know what I mean, read up on the laws against discrimination to start with.
    Well, like I've said I'm not Trump supporter, but we have freedom of speech.  You can say whatever you want legally aside from threatening personal harm.  That's a legal fact.  Trump hasn't said anything that's illegal to say.  As far as discrimination goes, the law already says illegal immigrants if caught are to be deported.  Trump saying he will deport illegal immigrants, or build a wall doesn't amount to discrimination, its simply saying he would actively pursue enforcement of existing law.  That is not a violation of any existing anti-discrimination law.  As far as a "temporary ban on Muslim immigrants" goes... that's still not illegal.  It may go totally against American values, but as a matter of law it is not illegal since the US Constitution only applies to those who are citizens of the US or who are physically within our borders.  Therefore any anti-discrimination law which might prevent him from doing this is not legally applicable to non-citizens not already within our borders.  I don't agree with his plans, but I am very familiar with the law and specifics of what he has called for.
    If Japanese camp wasn't illegal, then nothing is illegal against Muslim immigration.
  • Reply 127 of 180
    Urei1620Urei1620 Posts: 88member
    tmay said:
    Urei1620 said:

    Let me guess, you like the witch.
    That's why we can't have nice things in America; people as yourself are so upfront and proud of their misogynist behavior.

    As a tall, white male with long fingers, I'm seeing a whole lot of white privilege in Bernie's ranks and that might be why he hasn't a chance in hell of winning the primary. I'm thinking that you are a better fit with Trump.
    I just think that FBI needs to hurry up and close in on Hillary for running an insecure private email server to handle official email while she was Secretary of State, thus exposing classified information to foreign governments and hackers. She will be the first one to tell you that what Snowden did was wrong and he should be punished. The hypocrisy! She was also nailed on her Congressional hearing for Benghazi for covering up her negligent actions in response to the attack without sending help and her ridiculous explanation for a video causing Benghazi. I would not be surprised if her insecure email was accessed by Al-Qaeda and they knew of the bad security at the Benghazi embassy and acted on this information. She has the blood of 4 innocent, patriotic Americans on her hands. If the DOJ wasn't so corrupt, she would have already been indicted.
    edited March 2016 designrtallest skil
  • Reply 128 of 180
    tmaytmay Posts: 6,453member
    Urei1620 said:
    tmay said:
    That's why we can't have nice things in America; people as yourself are so upfront and proud of their misogynist behavior.

    As a tall, white male with long fingers, I'm seeing a whole lot of white privilege in Bernie's ranks and that might be why he hasn't a chance in hell of winning the primary. I'm thinking that you are a better fit with Trump.
    I just think that FBI needs to hurry up and close in on Hillary for running an insecure private email server to handle official email while She was Secretary of State, thus exposing classified information to foreign governments. She will be the first one to tell you that what Snowden did was wrong and he should be punished. The hypocrisy! She was also nailed on her Congressional hearing for Benghazi for covering up her negligent actions in response to the attack without sending help and her ridiculous explanation for a video causing Benghazi. She has the blood of 4 innocent, patriotic americans on her hands.If the DOJ wasn't so corrupt, she would have already been indicted.
    Another favorite tactic of some of Bernie's supporters is right wing meme's; the Congressional hearing didn't nail Hillary at all, try as they might, and the classified email brouhaha has no legs.

    It's sad that Bernie is saddled with some to the same white privilege that Trump engenders.
  • Reply 129 of 180
    aaronjaaronj Posts: 1,595member
    jungmark said:
    Right? Why would Ryan and Mitch meet with a group of super liberals that hate them and their party, and risk isolating themselves from their colleagues and the voters? They might not be thrilled at the prospect of a Trump presidency, but they'd fight tooth and nail for that over a Hillary/Sanders Commander in Chief. 
    Actually Mitch has said if Trump wins the nom, he'll support Hillary. 

    The leadership doesn't want Trump. 
    Other Republican elected officials have said they would vote for Hillary as well.  And Mitt said that while he wouldn't vote for Hillary he definitely wouldn't vote for Trump.  He'd probably write in a third choice, he said.
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    msanttimsantti Posts: 1,377member
    jungmark said:
    Right? Why would Ryan and Mitch meet with a group of super liberals that hate them and their party, and risk isolating themselves from their colleagues and the voters? They might not be thrilled at the prospect of a Trump presidency, but they'd fight tooth and nail for that over a Hillary/Sanders Commander in Chief. 
    Actually Mitch has said if Trump wins the nom, he'll support Hillary. 

    The leadership doesn't want Trump. 
    I am a conservative and I think 90% + of the GOP are idiots.

    Mitch=RINO
    dysamoria
  • Reply 131 of 180
    Urei1620Urei1620 Posts: 88member
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    domino67domino67 Posts: 34member
    apple ][ said:
    rob53 said:

    I'm sure all the non-Americans watching this fiasco are laughing their a**es off. 
    Have you seen the rest of the world lately? It's a complete mess, and the majority of world leaders are class-A, clueless morons.

    The opinions of 100% of all non-Americans are completely irrelevant as they have zero say in OUR elections. They can all go and screw themselves. Many countries are in complete collapse, now that is hilarious! We'll see who gets the last laugh. :#
    Unlike the Americans who involve themselves in other countries business?
    dysamoriasingularity
  • Reply 133 of 180
    ota4meota4me Posts: 1member
    Apple is one of the companies which manufactures overseas to avoid regulation and taxes. A lot of shareholders stand to lose a lot of money is President Trump puts America's interests ahead of Big Business' interests.
    tallest skil
  • Reply 134 of 180
    tmaytmay Posts: 6,453member
    ota4me said:
    Apple is one of the companies which manufactures overseas to avoid regulation and taxes. A lot of shareholders stand to lose a lot of money is President Trump puts America's interests ahead of Big Business' interests.
    Bullshit on the regulations and taxes. It's about the size and quality of the manufacturing and assembly workforce; there isn't anything equivalent here in the U.S, and there couldn't be today due to our higher cost of labor. The last time we had equivalent labor mobilization was during WWII; 70 years ago and we haven't kept up with training to support a large manufacturing workforce. More to the point, automation would ultimately kill most of the jobs anyway. 


  • Reply 135 of 180
     B S on this story.

    A group of liberal Silicon Valley leaders are meeting to discuss  republican nominees.....

    The story line makes no sense..


  • Reply 136 of 180
    volcanvolcan Posts: 1,799member
    Urei1620 said:
    There are no good choices here. If it is not Trump, then it will be Hillary. If not Hillary, then it will be Trump. Blah.
    Take your pick. A punch in the nose or a poke in the eye. Anyone who would actually be a good candidate knows better than to run for the job. The presidency and politics is a nasty business. Every term in office probably takes ten years off your life expectancy due to stress.
  • Reply 137 of 180
    volcanvolcan Posts: 1,799member
    apple ][ said:

    We'll see who gets the last laugh. :#
    99.999% of the people on planet Earth have never seen a mushroom cloud. 
    Believe me, no one will be laughing.
    edited March 2016 dysamoria
  • Reply 138 of 180
    Urei1620Urei1620 Posts: 88member
    volcan said:
    Urei1620 said:
    There are no good choices here. If it is not Trump, then it will be Hillary. If not Hillary, then it will be Trump. Blah.
    Take your pick. A punch in the nose or a poke in the eye. Anyone who would actually be a good candidate knows better than to run for the job. The presidency and politics is a nasty business. Every term in office probably takes ten years off your life expectancy due to stress.
    I thought we hit bottom with Obama, but I guess there is still room for going worse before it gets better.
    designr
  • Reply 139 of 180
    dysamoriadysamoria Posts: 3,430member
    Urei1620 said:
    There are no good choices here. If it is not Trump, then it will be Hillary. If not Hillary, then it will be Trump. Blah.
    Bernie Sanders is a good choice (unless you're programmed to believe in out-of-date Cold War propaganda against anything remotely socially positive). He an independent, no beholden to corporations, and promotes progressive change for a stagnating and antipathetic nation. He's also running for the democrat ticket, so you don't even have to not vote for one of the duopoly parties, if he gets the nomination (go vote for him in your state's primary; I changed my affiliation from independent to democrat just to get access to my state's corrupt closed primary). 

    Jill Stein is another good choice, and also a second (and better) option for "first woman president". Or are you afraid that the greens are "extremists" or something (???).

    Stop looking at the system as merely the binary options that the duopoly parties want you to see. It's corrupt. Playing the game on those terms defeats the whole point of voting.

    Anyone not voting: GO VOTE!
  • Reply 140 of 180
    cnocbuicnocbui Posts: 3,613member
    rob53 said:

    I'm sure all the non-Americans watching this fiasco are laughing their a**es off. It's amazing how many laws he's breaking while forcing his freedom of speech onto so many sheep. If he was the president and said half the things he's saying right now, he'd be put in jail. If you don't know what I mean, read up on the laws against discrimination to start with.
    I can assure you the last thing we are doing is laughing.  We are mostly absolutely terrified.  Europe is still reaping the shít sown by Bush and his neo-con pupetmasters in the form of ISIS/Daesh and the refugee crisis.  Trump will likely start a nuclear WW3.
    dysamoriaaaronjsingularity
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