I don't understand the logic of leaving a G3 in the iMac in its next update, and putting a G5 in the PowerMac in its next update. Why would Apple leave a G4 gap like that?
Of course! It's so simple! Software R&D money comes from hardware!
So, in conclusion, no R&D costs are built into hardware prices. Software pays for hardware R&D, and hardware pays for software R&D, except when R&D costs aren't built into hardware prices, which is always. Therefore, Apple R&D doesn't exist.
Thanks for clearing that up, guys. Clear as an unmuddied lake.
G6 at MWSF!!
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you're completely right. that post made no sense. I BSed my way through it.
The thing I attempted to say was that R/D for something like a cube or Mac OS X has already been paid for by the current hardware. the product doesn't carry its own R/D cost.
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New iMac has a G4, but does it get an LCD? and what size hopefully 15"
I assume there's no chance it will be more than 1024x768 resolution?
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don't know. All I know is that a G4 will be in the iMac and the G5 will be released.
I don't blame you. If I were you I would have doubt to. In fact I would likely say its all BS, that I'm a liar, and then go back and forth for 3 pages with tons of posts with rolling eye smilies laced throughout em
In fact I have a bit of doubt to but he did say it. and he has been right before. and he seemed positive about it. we'll just have to wait and see. It's certainly interesting news if true. I know if I'm wrong I'll probably get abused like I did with Mercury Rising but who cares. I just wanted to pass on fairly reliable info. iMac with a G4 and PowerMac G5. that alone is great news. no if the iMac ships with a 15 inch LCD like everyone is expecting its going to be great.
I know IBM's new kick butt G3 is rumored to be in the iMac, but I could totally see Steve pulling out a new iMac with an awesome new enclosure, a 15" LCD, 733Mhz G4, and a SuperDrive.
This would truly be the next "Revolution" in a consumer machine.
733 would be the perfect speed. Even if the PowerMac gets the Apollo and not the G5, apple won't ship 733Mhz G4 on the low end , they already are. And the iMac is currently at 700Mhz so it would be a Mhz increase as well.
Sahara could beef up the iBook.
And who's to say that apple hasn't gotten their hands on a slot loading SuperDrive yet. I'm sure someone would be willing to manufacture a slim profile SuperDrive that would not just go into 1 of apples machines, but 3 of them, immediately (PB, PM, and iMac). And I?m sure Steve has been working his tale off, the last year, trying to get the darn thing in the PowerBooks. (FCP3, DVD Studio Pro, SuperDrive ? all on a PowerBook, you know he can?t wait to release that! ? It would be the COMPLETE portable studio - another industry first, from Apple of course)
<yawn> - "huh, what time is it? dangit, that was a good dream"
<strong>And who's to say that apple hasn't gotten their hands on a slot loading SuperDrive yet. I'm sure someone would be willing to manufacture a slim profile SuperDrive that would not just go into 1 of apples machines, but 3 of them, immediately (PB, PM, and iMac). And I?m sure Steve has been working his tale off, the last year, trying to get the darn thing in the PowerBooks. (FCP3, DVD Studio Pro, SuperDrive ? all on a PowerBook, you know he can?t wait to release that! ? It would be the COMPLETE portable studio - another industry first, from Apple of course)
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I doubt Apple has any slot loading Superdrives at the moment. If they can't even get a combo drive in the PBs and iMacs then how could they already have a slot loading Superdrive?
Actually to make a slot drive "thin enough" for the Powerbook is the problem. Making a slot load Superdrive to fit into the new iMac and designing the new iMac to accomdate a slot load Superdrive regardless of size would not be a problem.
[quote]I doubt Apple has any slot loading Superdrives at the moment. If they can't even get a combo drive in the PBs and iMacs then how could they already have a slot loading Superdrive?
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good point <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
I really hope that your source is right, applenut. It's about time that we got an iMac with a G4 though... I can't take any more of those G4 iMac rumours we get just before every Apple event!
DavGee, while I use my 19" CRT at 1280x1024, it is far from optimal. To scale everything correctly, I have to leave wide bands on either side of the tube...wasted real estate.
Apple is hyping "wider is better" anyway. I bet very few people would instantly realize the 17" Apple Studio Display LCD is 5:4...but everyone can instantly recognize the PowerBook screen and ACD as "wide aspect."
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It's time for Apple to put a G4 in the iMac.
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Of course! It's so simple! Software R&D money comes from hardware!
So, in conclusion, no R&D costs are built into hardware prices. Software pays for hardware R&D, and hardware pays for software R&D, except when R&D costs aren't built into hardware prices, which is always. Therefore, Apple R&D doesn't exist.
Thanks for clearing that up, guys. Clear as an unmuddied lake.
G6 at MWSF!!
-mithral</strong><hr></blockquote>
you're completely right. that post made no sense. I BSed my way through it.
The thing I attempted to say was that R/D for something like a cube or Mac OS X has already been paid for by the current hardware. the product doesn't carry its own R/D cost.
[quote]Applenut-
New iMac has a G4, but does it get an LCD? and what size hopefully 15"
I assume there's no chance it will be more than 1024x768 resolution?
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don't know. All I know is that a G4 will be in the iMac and the G5 will be released.
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In fact I have a bit of doubt to but he did say it. and he has been right before. and he seemed positive about it. we'll just have to wait and see. It's certainly interesting news if true. I know if I'm wrong I'll probably get abused like I did with Mercury Rising
we'll just have to wait and see
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Thigh? Breast? Tounge?
This would truly be the next "Revolution" in a consumer machine.
733 would be the perfect speed. Even if the PowerMac gets the Apollo and not the G5, apple won't ship 733Mhz G4 on the low end , they already are. And the iMac is currently at 700Mhz so it would be a Mhz increase as well.
Sahara could beef up the iBook.
And who's to say that apple hasn't gotten their hands on a slot loading SuperDrive yet. I'm sure someone would be willing to manufacture a slim profile SuperDrive that would not just go into 1 of apples machines, but 3 of them, immediately (PB, PM, and iMac). And I?m sure Steve has been working his tale off, the last year, trying to get the darn thing in the PowerBooks. (FCP3, DVD Studio Pro, SuperDrive ? all on a PowerBook, you know he can?t wait to release that! ? It would be the COMPLETE portable studio - another industry first, from Apple of course)
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<strong>And who's to say that apple hasn't gotten their hands on a slot loading SuperDrive yet. I'm sure someone would be willing to manufacture a slim profile SuperDrive that would not just go into 1 of apples machines, but 3 of them, immediately (PB, PM, and iMac). And I?m sure Steve has been working his tale off, the last year, trying to get the darn thing in the PowerBooks. (FCP3, DVD Studio Pro, SuperDrive ? all on a PowerBook, you know he can?t wait to release that! ? It would be the COMPLETE portable studio - another industry first, from Apple of course)
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I doubt Apple has any slot loading Superdrives at the moment. If they can't even get a combo drive in the PBs and iMacs then how could they already have a slot loading Superdrive?
1.) Forums always going down before big news/shows
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I heard they upgraded the servers to dual Umax C500's running 233mhz G3 upgrade cards just to handle the load from MWSF 202.
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good point <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
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I heard they upgraded the servers to dual Umax C500's running 233mhz G3 upgrade cards just to handle the load from MWSF 202.</strong><hr></blockquote>
try dual p3 1 ghz with 2 gigs ram...
we're not going down, kids...
Apple is hyping "wider is better" anyway. I bet very few people would instantly realize the 17" Apple Studio Display LCD is 5:4...but everyone can instantly recognize the PowerBook screen and ACD as "wide aspect."
The next iMac won't be widescreen or 5:4...
<strong>Hmm, PCs running a site for Mac addicts... ironic. I guess PCs were cheaper
That I guess and Apple doesn't have any serious server hardware.
I hope the replace their current "server" line with TiBook-like rackmount configurations.