Apple, other tech companies pledge to continue efforts to meet Paris climate accord

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in General Discussion edited June 2017
Following President Donald Trump's decision to withdraw America from the Paris climate accords, Apple and other major U.S. brands on Monday pledged support for an alternate environmental initiative called the "We Are Still In" campaign.




According to a letter announcing the coalition, Recode reports U.S. firms including Apple, Amazon, eBay, Google and Microsoft are "joining forces for the first time to declare that we will continue to support climate action to meet the Paris Agreement." The group is being led by former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, the report said.

An informational webpage explains 1,219 governors, mayors, businesses, investors, and colleges and universities from across the U.S. or with significant operations in the U.S. are counted among those participating in the effort.

In addition to local leaders, 902 businesses, including 20 Fortune 500 companies, have signed onto the statement. In the public letter, the group says the Paris climate accords put America on track to transition to clean energy, which not only benefits the environment, but presents an opportunity for job growth and economic stability.

In announcing his decision to pull out of the climate accords, Trump said the deal puts America at an economic disadvantage.

Apple has in the past taken a strong stance on the environment. In light of Trump's recent decision, the company said it intends to adhere to policies designed to combat climate change.

Last week, Apple CEO Tim Cook personally contacted Trump to persuade him not to renege on Obama administration promises, but the call was not enough. In a letter to employees, Cook said Apple would continue corporate efforts toward a sustainable future. Current initiatives include deploying and relying on renewable energy sources, recycling devices and investing in forestry projects.

The full letter as published on the We Are Still In coalition's webpage:
We, the undersigned mayors, governors, college and university leaders, investors and businesses, are joining forces for the first time to declare that we will continue to support climate action to meet the Paris Agreement.

In December 2015 in Paris, world leaders signed the first global commitment to fight climate change. The landmark agreement succeeded where past attempts failed because it allowed each country to set its own emission reduction targets and adopt its own strategies for reaching them. In addition, nations - inspired by the actions of local and regional governments, along with businesses - came to recognize that fighting climate change brings significant economic and public health benefits.

The Trump administration's announcement undermines a key pillar in the fight against climate change and damages the world's ability to avoid the most dangerous and costly effects of climate change. Importantly, it is also out of step with what is happening in the United States.

In the U.S., it is local and state governments, along with businesses, that are primarily responsible for the dramatic decrease in greenhouse gas emissions in recent years. Actions by each group will multiply and accelerate in the years ahead, no matter what policies Washington may adopt.

In the absence of leadership from Washington, states, cities, colleges and universities and businesses representing a sizeable percentage of the U.S. economy will pursue ambitious climate goals, working together to take forceful action and to ensure that the U.S. remains a global leader in reducing emissions.

It is imperative that the world know that in the U.S., the actors that will provide the leadership necessary to meet our Paris commitment are found in city halls, state capitals, colleges and universities, investors and businesses. Together, we will remain actively engaged with the international community as part of the global effort to hold warming to well below 2C and to accelerate the transition to a clean energy economy that will benefit our security, prosperity, and health.
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  • Reply 1 of 62
    jungmarkjungmark Posts: 6,687member
    Excellent. Just because Donnie doesn't understand science, doesn't mean we roll back progress. 
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  • Reply 2 of 62
    pdbreskepdbreske Posts: 39member
    Isn't this better than having the government dictate what we should do? Isn't this how a free market economy is supposed to work? Why does everyone insist that the government step in and "fix" everything when government can't ever seem to get anything right to begin with? If combatting climate change is a good business decision, then businesses will step up and do what needs to be done, not because it's the right thing to do, but because it makes them (or saves them) money. If this is a bad business decision, then no amount of government regulation will persuade businesses to change their ways because the regulations will always have some unforeseen loophole that will be exploited by unscrupulous companies. And if you think Apple is above that kind of response, witness their avoidance of paying US taxes by keeping billions of dollars overseas. Many people would say this isn't fair, but it's a good business decision on Apple's part. Tim Cook et al. believe that following the provisions of the Paris accord is good for the bottom line, either through goodwill or increased sales/decreased costs. If the CEOs of these companies truly thought that their companies would go out of business by doing this, they wouldn't do it. It's that simple.
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  • Reply 3 of 62
    MacProMacPro Posts: 18,215member
    pdbreske said:
    Isn't this better than having the government dictate what we should do? Isn't this how a free market economy is supposed to work? Why does everyone insist that the government step in and "fix" everything when government can't ever seem to get anything right to begin with? If combatting climate change is a good business decision, then businesses will step up and do what needs to be done, not because it's the right thing to do, but because it makes them (or saves them) money. If this is a bad business decision, then no amount of government regulation will persuade businesses to change their ways because the regulations will always have some unforeseen loophole that will be exploited by unscrupulous companies. And if you think Apple is above that kind of response, witness their avoidance of paying US taxes by keeping billions of dollars overseas. Many people would say this isn't fair, but it's a good business decision on Apple's part. Tim Cook et al. believe that following the provisions of the Paris accord is good for the bottom line, either through goodwill or increased sales/decreased costs. If the CEOs of these companies truly thought that their companies would go out of business by doing this, they wouldn't do it. It's that simple.
    Well nice try but just as an example,  does gutting the EPA ensure business doesn't pollute if there's more profit in it?  There has to be a balance between business and we the people (that's the Government in case you have forgotten).
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  • Reply 4 of 62
    Trump is secretly terrified of climate change, so he did the one thing that would get citizens and companies to make significant commitments of their own.  He's a mad genius.
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  • Reply 5 of 62
    boltsfan17boltsfan17 Posts: 2,160member
    The Paris accord is nothing more than words and little action. There is no enforcement of the agreement and you know countries are going to cheat. It's a money pit for the USA. Wealthy nations agreed to pay $100 billion a year to poorer nations and you know which country will be paying the most. The USA of course. The bottom line is the Paris accord does nothing for the environment. People need to realize globalist politics aren't going to solve environmental problems. 
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  • Reply 6 of 62
    boltsfan17boltsfan17 Posts: 2,160member
    jungmark said:
    Excellent. Just because Donnie doesn't understand science, doesn't mean we roll back progress. 
    Science isn't always right. They still can't figure out how much carbon emissions are from humans vs the environment. 
    patchythepirate
  • Reply 7 of 62
    shapetablesshapetables Posts: 201member
    They have to. What this clip does not mention is that the Governor of California announced California will be joining with many other states and countries to implement a new accord of their own and that will be binding upon Apple because it is HQ'ed in California.
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  • Reply 8 of 62
    jungmark said:
    Excellent. Just because Donnie doesn't understand science, doesn't mean we roll back progress. 
    Science isn't always right. They still can't figure out how much carbon emissions are from humans vs the environment. 
    Oh good point.... if we don’t have EXACT answers- f the whole thing. Throw the whole world in the crapper.

    I admire the cut of your jib sir!
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  • Reply 9 of 62
    Rayz2016Rayz2016 Posts: 4,591member
    jungmark said:
    Excellent. Just because Donnie doesn't understand science, doesn't mean we roll back progress. 
    Science isn't always right. They still can't figure out how much carbon emissions are from humans vs the environment. 
    Yeah, but I think science has been right more times than Trump. 
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  • Reply 10 of 62
    chelin74chelin74 Posts: 13member
    The Paris accord is nothing more than words and little action. There is no enforcement of the agreement and you know countries are going to cheat. It's a money pit for the USA. Wealthy nations agreed to pay $100 billion a year to poorer nations and you know which country will be paying the most. The USA of course. The bottom line is the Paris accord does nothing for the environment. People need to realize globalist politics aren't going to solve environmental problems. 
    I do not know if you have trouble with numbers but $3b in total for the US (not per year). And the us per capita contribution lands us 32nd.

    that isnt a terrible deal for a nation which polluted more than any other nation. And currently we are more than double the amount than any other country per person.
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  • Reply 11 of 62
    MacProMacPro Posts: 18,215member
    jungmark said:
    Excellent. Just because Donnie doesn't understand science, doesn't mean we roll back progress. 
    Science isn't always right. They still can't figure out how much carbon emissions are from humans vs the environment. 
    Who's the 'they' in that statement?  The folks that write right wing blogs?  If you actually did some genuine research you'd find 'they' the scientists of the world actually have a very accurate handle on this.
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  • Reply 12 of 62
    spacekidspacekid Posts: 171member
    So is Apple going to donate $billions to China and India?
  • Reply 13 of 62
    spacekidspacekid Posts: 171member
    MacPro said:
    jungmark said:
    Excellent. Just because Donnie doesn't understand science, doesn't mean we roll back progress. 
    Science isn't always right. They still can't figure out how much carbon emissions are from humans vs the environment. 
    Who's the 'they' in that statement?  The folks that write right wing blogs?  If you actually did some genuine research you'd find 'they' the scientists of the world actually have a very accurate handle on this.
    They think they have a handle. They don't know what they don't know. Their theory keeps changing like why didn't atmospheric CO2 go up as much as they predicted? The oceans are storing it. Their predictions don't match reality which shows they don't fully understand it.
    patchythepirate
  • Reply 14 of 62
    spacekidspacekid Posts: 171member
    jungmark said:
    Excellent. Just because Donnie doesn't understand science, doesn't mean we roll back progress. 
    Science isn't always right. They still can't figure out how much carbon emissions are from humans vs the environment. 
    Oh good point.... if we don’t have EXACT answers- f the whole thing. Throw the whole world in the crapper.

    I admire the cut of your jib sir!
    On the contrary, your view would be we think we understand it so let's bankrupt our country. Then China just waits and takes over even more.
    patchythepirate
  • Reply 15 of 62
    anantksundaramanantksundaram Posts: 19,149member
    jungmark said:
    Excellent. Just because Donnie doesn't understand science, doesn't mean we roll back progress. 
    Science isn't always right. They still can't figure out how much carbon emissions are from humans vs the environment. 
    You're pretty clueless on that front. Go ahead, ask me what you'd like to know about which specific type of human-caused emissions, from which country: I'd be happy to point you to resources where you can educate yourself.
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  • Reply 16 of 62
    anantksundaramanantksundaram Posts: 19,149member

    spacekid said:
    So is Apple going to donate $billions to China and India?
    ???? Care to elaborate?

    (If you're obliquely referring to President Trump's lies on this topic, don't bother).
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  • Reply 17 of 62
    spacekid said:
    jungmark said:
    Excellent. Just because Donnie doesn't understand science, doesn't mean we roll back progress. 
    Science isn't always right. They still can't figure out how much carbon emissions are from humans vs the environment. 
    Oh good point.... if we don’t have EXACT answers- f the whole thing. Throw the whole world in the crapper.

    I admire the cut of your jib sir!
    On the contrary, your view would be we think we understand it so let's bankrupt our country. Then China just waits and takes over even more.
    Lol, I guess time will tell... if, in a few years, literally all the other countries that stayed in the accord are taken over by China- I'll owe you an apology for not believing that coming together to agree to not destroy our planet was actually a nefarious Chinese plot for world domination!!!!!

     
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  • Reply 18 of 62
    anantksundaramanantksundaram Posts: 19,149member
    chelin74 said:
    The Paris accord is nothing more than words and little action. There is no enforcement of the agreement and you know countries are going to cheat. It's a money pit for the USA. Wealthy nations agreed to pay $100 billion a year to poorer nations and you know which country will be paying the most. The USA of course. The bottom line is the Paris accord does nothing for the environment. People need to realize globalist politics aren't going to solve environmental problems. 
    I do not know if you have trouble with numbers but $3b in total for the US (not per year). And the us per capita contribution lands us 32nd.

    that isnt a terrible deal for a nation which polluted more than any other nation. And currently we are more than double the amount than any other country per person.
    The US has so far paid in only $1B. I think that China and India will tell Trump that he can keep it (or something along those lines, if they weren't speaking diplomatically).
    edited June 2017 jony0iqatedo
  • Reply 19 of 62
    anantksundaramanantksundaram Posts: 19,149member

    spacekid said:
    jungmark said:
    Excellent. Just because Donnie doesn't understand science, doesn't mean we roll back progress. 
    Science isn't always right. They still can't figure out how much carbon emissions are from humans vs the environment. 
    Oh good point.... if we don’t have EXACT answers- f the whole thing. Throw the whole world in the crapper.

    I admire the cut of your jib sir!
    On the contrary, your view would be we think we understand it so let's bankrupt our country. Then China just waits and takes over even more.
    What the heck are you talking about? China will have an internal carbon market, in all likelihood, before the end of this year, but most certainly before the end of 2018. India will have 175GW of solar and wind capacity by 2022 (and China even more). They're both mothballing dozens and dozens of coal plants, and have essentially put all new coal construction on hold. (See, e.g., https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/02/world/asia/india-coal-green-energy-climate.html ). 

    Read, man. Educate yourself. Don't blindly mouth crap. It can be a liberating thing.
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  • Reply 20 of 62
    techprod1gytechprod1gy Posts: 836member
    What I see is a lot of people not knowing enough information to make good comments here.
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