Me neither, I was being over the top, so to speak. But I do think they need to do a better job in the QA dept (or wherever). I understand that while Date & Time seems easy, allegedly it's not. But there have been so many problems, for so many companies to get Date & Time right...I wouldn't hold my breath for these bugs to become a thing of the past.
Yup. More proof that the "bug fix" was a slapdash act of Apple sticking their finger in the hole and not actually repairing the code that is responsible for it.
This is a completely bogus story. If I install , say, windows 10 from a DVD, I will get a huge raft of patches once I connect to the internet. Similarly the user who installs 10.13.1 will almost immediately be auto patched by Apple with the security update. 10.13.2 will be along shortly. This is just how it works.
This is a completely bogus story. If I install , say, windows 10 from a DVD, I will get a huge raft of patches once I connect to the internet. Similarly the user who installs 10.13.1 will almost immediately be auto patched by Apple with the security update. 10.13.2 will be along shortly. This is just how it works.
Those are very different scenarios since a physical installers have to be finalized, then sent to a factory to be mass produced into their physical media form, packaged up, sent to retailers, and then sold. You're likely talking weeks or even months in-between.
So, what's wrong with that? The update and the bug both work as expected. One will install 10.13.1 first, then install Security Update 2017-001 over that, else macOS will already automatically install the security update on 10.13.1. Apple should stick to the released build number and should not distribute the "corrected" one with a different build number: that would create huge confusions among users and support staff. This is how it works in Windows or other software too.
I think that is correct. 10.13.1 does not include the fix, 10.13.1 + security fix does.
Me neither, I was being over the top, so to speak. But I do think they need to do a better job in the QA dept (or wherever). I understand that while Date & Time seems easy, allegedly it's not. But there have been so many problems, for so many companies to get Date & Time right...I wouldn't hold my breath for these bugs to become a thing of the past.
This is a completely bogus story. If I install , say, windows 10 from a DVD, I will get a huge raft of patches once I connect to the internet. Similarly the user who installs 10.13.1 will almost immediately be auto patched by Apple with the security update. 10.13.2 will be along shortly. This is just how it works.
Those are very different scenarios since a physical installers have to be finalized, then sent to a factory to be mass produced into their physical media form, packaged up, sent to retailers, and then sold. You're likely talking weeks or even months in-between.
This is a completely bogus story. If I install , say, windows 10 from a DVD, I will get a huge raft of patches once I connect to the internet. Similarly the user who installs 10.13.1 will almost immediately be auto patched by Apple with the security update. 10.13.2 will be along shortly. This is just how it works.
Those are very different scenarios since a physical installers have to be finalized, then sent to a factory to be mass produced into their physical media form, packaged up, sent to retailers, and then sold. You're likely talking weeks or even months in-between.
But the security upgrade is obligatory right? Am I right?
I may be too cautious, having worked with both IBM and Microsoft software for 32+ years, so I generally wait 4-6 months after a 10.xx.yy update before updating my home MacBook Pro. Usually, I'll wait at least for the MacOS 10.xx.2 before updating (I've taken too many arrows to the back with the former-mentioned companies).
I may be too cautious, having worked with both IBM and Microsoft software for 32+ years, so I generally wait 4-6 months after a 10.xx.yy update before updating my home MacBook Pro. Usually, I'll wait at least for the MacOS 10.xx.2 before updating (I've taken too many arrows to the back with the former-mentioned companies).
While I know the past hasn't been flawless. I used to update relatively quickly... within weeks to a couple of months. Now, I typically wait 6 mo minimum. I might wait a year this time... we'll see. Unless I've just had bad luck the last 4 to 5 years, Mac OS quality has dropped a good bit... and the length of time to relative stability (after a major point release) increased.
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But the security upgrade is obligatory right? Am I right?