Apple's iPhone XS Max smashes Google's Pixel 3 in benchmark testing

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  • Reply 81 of 134
    netroxnetrox Posts: 1,573member
    I saw Pixel 3 models at Best Buy and they do feel sluggish and the animations aren't silky smooth like iPhone Xs. 


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  • Reply 82 of 134
    danvmdanvm Posts: 1,504member
    tmay said:
    Danvm,

    You attributed this to me, though it isn't my statement;

    "For example, you mention that "stringent requirements imposed by the PC and its operating system. It's sit-down, shut-up, and do what you're told if you want to be productive with the PC. The PC and its OS dictates the terms and conditions and users had no choice but to comply, using Microsoft's rules in the vast majority of cases."  These lines easily applies to an iPad, a device you mention it was as personal as a smartphone.  The iPad requires and force the user to interact with a touch UI and touch apps, even with a keyboard installed.  The user has to sit-down, shut-up, and do what Apple says if you want to be productive with an iPad.  So I suppose the iPad isn't a personal device, right?"


    You are right.  I apologize for the confusion.  I though I was replying to another comment. :#
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  • Reply 83 of 134
    StrangeDaysstrangedays Posts: 13,200member

    morgle said:
    iPhone IS the smartphone. This category didn't exist before iPhone.

    One-post-moron see yourself out.>>>
    False.

    SAUCE: The first commercially available device that could be properly referred to as a "smartphone" began as a prototype called "Angler" developed by Frank Canova in 1992 while at IBM and demonstrated in November of that year at the COMDEX computer industry trade show.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smartphone

    477 posts does not make you righteous
    I assumed he meant the category of modern smartphone was defined by the iPhone and its mass marketed feature set. It wasn’t the first smartphone, or the first touch screen, but it was the first smartphone that mattered. 
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  • Reply 84 of 134
    claire1 said:
    denchiosa said:
    But why Siri sucks ? Why  Pixel do best job at taking pictures with single lens camera ? A smartphone should be "smart" not only good in benchmarks  :D
    If Siri sucks so do the wannabe Siris as they all aren't great at anything and some do some things better than others. None are superior yet.

    Pixel can't do dual sense techniques. It just can't.

    iPhone IS the smartphone. This category didn't exist before iPhone.

    One-post-moron see yourself out.>>>
    Technologically speaking, Siri has in fact fallen behind the competition. Plus, even the current engineers of Siri even admit that. Case closed
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  • Reply 85 of 134
    clarker99 said:
    bluefire1 said:
    What a surprise: Once again Apple’s product is  superior to Googles. 
    Love my iPhone XS Max.
    Yeah and it isnt even close. The gap is widening in Apple’s favour every year.  Best in class performance with best in class security/privacy.

    You want a great Google experience? Buy an iPhone and run all your Google apps. Actual privacy/security and Google supports iOS with its full suite of apps. You dont have to comprimise your data or be surveillanced in exchange for a free charging stand. 
    If you want a affordable phone with limitless customization and not waste hundreds on a phone that gets slowed by updates when a new one gets released then definitely get a Android
    edited October 2018
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  • Reply 86 of 134
    bluefire1 said:
    What a surprise: Once again Apple’s product is  superior to Googles. 
    Love my iPhone XS Max.
    If you think a cpu score alone ultimately determines how good a smartphone is, then you're a sucker
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  • Reply 87 of 134
    clarker99 said:
    bluefire1 said:
    What a surprise: Once again Apple’s product is  superior to Googles. 
    Love my iPhone XS Max.
    Yeah and it isnt even close. The gap is widening in Apple’s favour every year.  Best in class performance with best in class security/privacy.

    You want a great Google experience? Buy an iPhone and run all your Google apps. Actual privacy/security and Google supports iOS with its full suite of apps. You dont have to comprimise your data or be surveillanced in exchange for a free charging stand. 
    If you want a affordable phone with limitless customization and not waste hundreds on a phone that gets slowed by updates when a new one gets released then definitely get a Android
    Haha. What Android phones dont  slow down after a couple years? All I see are LG G5 and Galaxy S7’s that crawl along. Most have installed something that has given the phone malware and ad popups every time you unlock the device.  The batteries are terrible bc of constant fast charging. But I am glad they save ‘hundreds’ and now have no resale value. 

    iPhone’s actually have a re-sale value. Do you undersrand value? I can make up the difference in cost in a couple years bc my iPhone will be worth something. An iPhone 6s can still fetch a couple hundred dollars. 
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  • Reply 88 of 134
    Amr adel said:
    You guys are brain washed by apple because you are all dump and don't know that there is a large between the reading of ios and android in benchmarks.If thats not right how in antutu benchmark how does the iphone 6s is stronger than flagship android phone while it's much slower in gaming performance.I know that this site is a large asskissing for apple
    I wish AI would re-implement their old policy of holding the first so-many posts of new accounts. Too many bullshit troll accounts. 
    ...and just 6 posts later...
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  • Reply 89 of 134
    gatorguy said:
    gatorguy said:
    bb-15 said:
    saltyzip said:
    I'm sure all that extra performance makes Facebook, WhatsApp and phone calls rock, not!

    The value of speed in a smartphone includes; 1. Intensive games like Fortnite. 
    I think @ericthehalfbee is actually testing how much  better the gaming performance of Fornite is on his iPhone compared to a couple of other higher-end Android phones. 

    To really test performance you need to perform tasks where the completion time can be measured. Like rendering a video, applying complex effects to a photo or recalculating a complex spreadsheet.
    But you have no way of comparing those as you've said before and you were the one that offered to if presented with some other apps that COULD be tested.  I offered two that my son knew both he and his friends have played in competitions on both Android and iOS. I'm no gamer myself, nor someone who would do their photo processing on a smartphone for that matter.

    No doubt there may be some smallish percentage of users like you who really do their "complex photo processing" on their smartphone or do "complex spreadsheet computations" on one, but wouldn't gaming  be a far more common use (perhaps THE most common use based on app store revenues) and and a more insightful comparison? Personally I think it would be a great real-life everyday measuring stick. Just my .02

    But if you can't compare 'em yourself,  fair enough. While AI found the X and Note were a toss-up (thanks for that link) the dropped frames on the Note compared to the XS is certainly a plus in Apple's favor. 

    EDIT: A cursory look on YouTube indicates game loading on Battlefields and Fortnite is much faster on the XS compared to the Galaxy, and by a significant amount. Game play itself is reported as pretty much on par with each other. But again I'm no gamer so cannot comment from personal experience. 


    Thats not what I said. I said there are no high-end Apps on Android to allow a comparison against iOS equivalents. Android is filled with Fisher Price Apps.

    The test method is valid - find the same App on both platforms and then test their performance. Better yet, find several Apps and test so people can’t claim it’s how the App was written that accounts for performance differences.

    Toms Guide did a few such tests.

    https://www.tomsguide.com/us/iphone-8-benchmarks-fastest-phone,review-4676.html

    https://www.tomsguide.com/us/iphone-xs-iphone-xs-max-benchmarks,review-5745.html

    However, I could be accused of cherry-picking these tests because it favors the iPhone.

    So I’ll ask again: Can any of you Android users select some Apps for me to compare to make this fair? After all, you’re the experts on everything Android. I understand if you don’t want to (you wouldn’t want to provide the evidence that sinks your case) or if you can’t (due to there being so very few Apps worth comparing). I’ve only asked this countless times from users here at AI.
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  • Reply 90 of 134
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,748member
    gatorguy said:
    gatorguy said:
    bb-15 said:
    saltyzip said:
    I'm sure all that extra performance makes Facebook, WhatsApp and phone calls rock, not!

    The value of speed in a smartphone includes; 1. Intensive games like Fortnite. 
    I think @ericthehalfbee is actually testing how much  better the gaming performance of Fornite is on his iPhone compared to a couple of other higher-end Android phones. 

    To really test performance you need to perform tasks where the completion time can be measured. Like rendering a video, applying complex effects to a photo or recalculating a complex spreadsheet.
    But you have no way of comparing those as you've said before and you were the one that offered to if presented with some other apps that COULD be tested.  I offered two that my son knew both he and his friends have played in competitions on both Android and iOS. I'm no gamer myself, nor someone who would do their photo processing on a smartphone for that matter.

    No doubt there may be some smallish percentage of users like you who really do their "complex photo processing" on their smartphone or do "complex spreadsheet computations" on one, but wouldn't gaming  be a far more common use (perhaps THE most common use based on app store revenues) and and a more insightful comparison? Personally I think it would be a great real-life everyday measuring stick. Just my .02

    But if you can't compare 'em yourself,  fair enough. While AI found the X and Note were a toss-up (thanks for that link) the dropped frames on the Note compared to the XS is certainly a plus in Apple's favor. 

    EDIT: A cursory look on YouTube indicates game loading on Battlefields and Fortnite is much faster on the XS compared to the Galaxy, and by a significant amount. Game play itself is reported as pretty much on par with each other. But again I'm no gamer so cannot comment from personal experience. 


    Thats not what I said. I said there are no high-end Apps on Android to allow a comparison against iOS equivalents.


    So I’ll ask again: Can any of you Android users select some Apps for me to compare to make this fair?
    Huh? I'm pretty sure I just gave you two to test for yourself: Battlefield and Fortnite. The same ones I gave you exactly a week ago but you never got around to. 
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  • Reply 91 of 134

    morgle said:
    iPhone IS the smartphone. This category didn't exist before iPhone.

    One-post-moron see yourself out.>>>
    False.

    SAUCE: The first commercially available device that could be properly referred to as a "smartphone" began as a prototype called "Angler" developed by Frank Canova in 1992 while at IBM and demonstrated in November of that year at the COMDEX computer industry trade show.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smartphone

    477 posts does not make you righteous
    I assumed he meant the category of modern smartphone was defined by the iPhone and its mass marketed feature set. It wasn’t the first smartphone, or the first touch screen, but it was the first smartphone that mattered. 
    Can't blame you for making a common mistake. But you'd still be wrong. BlackBerry demonstrated that such a device could be manufactured and commercially successful. They were extremely popular, and powerful at the time.

    Is it not enough to satisfy you that your device is the most powerful? Must it also be of pure lineage from the first device as well? 

    iPhone was a pioneer product, but it rested the success of its many features on the successes and failures of older products and the pioneering research and development of many other scientists from many other companies and the legal acquisition of the patents for its component pieces, of which all preceding "smartphone" devices, including the blackberry, were crucial contributors.

    Also, you have to give Alexander Graham Bell some credit for the telephone. The first telephone that mattered, that is. No avoiding that. Apple had nothing to do with it .

    Apple is not a self-contained universe. It lacks the resources to ever accomplish that. Amazon and Google, on the other hand, might be able. I'm excited to see.
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  • Reply 92 of 134
    tmaytmay Posts: 6,469member
    morgle said:

    morgle said:
    iPhone IS the smartphone. This category didn't exist before iPhone.

    One-post-moron see yourself out.>>>
    False.

    SAUCE: The first commercially available device that could be properly referred to as a "smartphone" began as a prototype called "Angler" developed by Frank Canova in 1992 while at IBM and demonstrated in November of that year at the COMDEX computer industry trade show.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smartphone

    477 posts does not make you righteous
    I assumed he meant the category of modern smartphone was defined by the iPhone and its mass marketed feature set. It wasn’t the first smartphone, or the first touch screen, but it was the first smartphone that mattered. 
    Can't blame you for making a common mistake. But you'd still be wrong. BlackBerry demonstrated that such a device could be manufactured and commercially successful. They were extremely popular, and powerful at the time.

    Is it not enough to satisfy you that your device is the most powerful? Must it also be of pure lineage from the first device as well? 

    iPhone was a pioneer product, but it rested the success of its many features on the successes and failures of older products and the pioneering research and development of many other scientists from many other companies and the legal acquisition of the patents for its component pieces, of which all preceding "smartphone" devices, including the blackberry, were crucial contributors.

    Also, you have to give Alexander Graham Bell some credit for the telephone. The first telephone that mattered, that is. No avoiding that. Apple had nothing to do with it .

    Apple is not a self-contained universe. It lacks the resources to ever accomplish that. Amazon and Google, on the other hand, might be able. I'm excited to see.
    There are plenty of phones in the lineage prior to the release of the iPhone, but as you are quite aware, the death of physical keyboards can trace its demise directly to the release of the iPhone. The iPhone was the disruption in the then current market. This isn't in dispute.

    I wasn't aware that Blackberry still made phones with physical keyboards, until today.

    These must sell in the thousands, and you must be so proud.



    edited October 2018
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  • Reply 93 of 134
    Mike Wuerthelemike wuerthele Posts: 7,129administrator
    Okay, so, I've deleted a few comments. The deletions aren't about disagreement, but they are about profound violation of our commenting guidelines.

    And, a couple of salient points.

    1) When (non-Apple) benchmarks exceed those of Apple products, they are held up as an example that (non-Apple) is better. You can't have it both ways.

    2) "Frothing fanboys" - it takes a certain mentality to vent on a forum because the tests that got run -- which you could reproduce yourself, easily -- don't match what you want to see. 

    If you're going to post, read the commenting guidelines.
    edited October 2018
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  • Reply 94 of 134
    tmay said:
    None of you mouth frothing, chomping at the bit psycho Apple fans have ever used a pixel phone it seems. Like really used, for weeks, fully taking advantage of its intelligence. 

    All smart phones are just conduits to using *Google's* services. Internet? Chrome. Email? Gmail. Calendar? Gmail again. Maps? Google Maps. Videos? YouTube. Photos? Google Photos. All these apps are best in class and have the biggest user base (i.e. I don't care if you don't use them, since you should)

    A Pixel phone makes life easy. Get hotel and/or flight confirmations to your email? Google adds it  to your calendar, notifies you the day of the trip, and gives you travel times/info. Traffic worse than normal for commute? Google warns you. If you want smart home features, Google Home is the best. Google Assistant is light-years ahead of every other smart assistant. Alexa is ok, but doesn't have Google's search integration. Siri is a joke. All the rest are just as bad as Siri.

    Chromecast is better than other smart TV products. Nest has the best security cameras and thermostat. Google WiFi is the prettiest and most intuitive mesh network. Soon self driving cars will dominate, and Waymo (Google) is a half decade farther along than the nearest competitor (which is GM, then Uber, with Apple not really making the list at all). Google is the ecosystem of the future. Apple is doing the same old crap, and doing it worse. They're focusing on building better hardware, while Google is focusing on building better software and letting the hardware market develop itself. The result is that the user experience with Google products blows Apple out of the water.

    Also, the pixel camera beats the iPhone camera year after year. And stock Android is prettier, easier to use, and isn't locked in iOS' horrible, basically-unchanging-for-ten-years app layout (an app drawer is indisputably BETTER).

    You have a little spittle on your chin that you might want to clean up.

    That happens when people go on, and on, with delusional rants.

    I'm sure that you feel better now though.

    Oh, and find a better name, first time poster.

    Imagine paying for and then putting (on your own, without any duress) a Nest Camera, a Google home and a Google Wifi network in your home. Google should be paying you.

    My iPhone auto puts calendar events in from my email. My iPhone connects to my vehicles bluetooth and Maps auto pops up and tells me time and can get map in a click. We have seen that no one can tell the difference bw a Pixel photo and a XS photo. And still see that the P20 Pro camera might be the best in the market.  All google apps are available and given lots love in iOS. I pop my airpods in and siri auto pops up my latest podcasts or music. Siri learns and recommend all the similar things you say but hey have you used an iPhone? Like c’mon people.
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  • Reply 95 of 134
    tmay said:
    morgle said:

    morgle said:
    iPhone IS the smartphone. This category didn't exist before iPhone.

    One-post-moron see yourself out.>>>
    False.

    SAUCE: The first commercially available device that could be properly referred to as a "smartphone" began as a prototype called "Angler" developed by Frank Canova in 1992 while at IBM and demonstrated in November of that year at the COMDEX computer industry trade show.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smartphone

    477 posts does not make you righteous
    I assumed he meant the category of modern smartphone was defined by the iPhone and its mass marketed feature set. It wasn’t the first smartphone, or the first touch screen, but it was the first smartphone that mattered. 
    Can't blame you for making a common mistake. But you'd still be wrong. BlackBerry demonstrated that such a device could be manufactured and commercially successful. They were extremely popular, and powerful at the time.

    Is it not enough to satisfy you that your device is the most powerful? Must it also be of pure lineage from the first device as well? 

    iPhone was a pioneer product, but it rested the success of its many features on the successes and failures of older products and the pioneering research and development of many other scientists from many other companies and the legal acquisition of the patents for its component pieces, of which all preceding "smartphone" devices, including the blackberry, were crucial contributors.

    Also, you have to give Alexander Graham Bell some credit for the telephone. The first telephone that mattered, that is. No avoiding that. Apple had nothing to do with it .

    Apple is not a self-contained universe. It lacks the resources to ever accomplish that. Amazon and Google, on the other hand, might be able. I'm excited to see.
    There are plenty of phones in the lineage prior to the release of the iPhone, but as you are quite aware, the death of physical keyboards can trace its demise directly to the release of the iPhone. The iPhone was the disruption in the then current market. This isn't in dispute.

    I wasn't aware that Blackberry still made phones with physical keyboards, until today.

    These must sell in the thousands, and you must be so proud.



    Point is Blackberry preceded the iPhone as a commercially successful smartphone
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  • Reply 96 of 134
    magman1979magman1979 Posts: 1,301member
    clarker99 said:
    bluefire1 said:
    What a surprise: Once again Apple’s product is  superior to Googles. 
    Love my iPhone XS Max.
    Yeah and it isnt even close. The gap is widening in Apple’s favour every year.  Best in class performance with best in class security/privacy.

    You want a great Google experience? Buy an iPhone and run all your Google apps. Actual privacy/security and Google supports iOS with its full suite of apps. You dont have to comprimise your data or be surveillanced in exchange for a free charging stand. 
    If you want a affordable phone with limitless customization and not waste hundreds on a phone that gets slowed by updates when a new one gets released then definitely get a Android
    And we have another 3 post wonder troll folks!
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  • Reply 97 of 134
    gatorguy said:
    gatorguy said:
    gatorguy said:
    bb-15 said:
    saltyzip said:
    I'm sure all that extra performance makes Facebook, WhatsApp and phone calls rock, not!

    The value of speed in a smartphone includes; 1. Intensive games like Fortnite. 
    I think @ericthehalfbee is actually testing how much  better the gaming performance of Fornite is on his iPhone compared to a couple of other higher-end Android phones. 

    To really test performance you need to perform tasks where the completion time can be measured. Like rendering a video, applying complex effects to a photo or recalculating a complex spreadsheet.
    But you have no way of comparing those as you've said before and you were the one that offered to if presented with some other apps that COULD be tested.  I offered two that my son knew both he and his friends have played in competitions on both Android and iOS. I'm no gamer myself, nor someone who would do their photo processing on a smartphone for that matter.

    No doubt there may be some smallish percentage of users like you who really do their "complex photo processing" on their smartphone or do "complex spreadsheet computations" on one, but wouldn't gaming  be a far more common use (perhaps THE most common use based on app store revenues) and and a more insightful comparison? Personally I think it would be a great real-life everyday measuring stick. Just my .02

    But if you can't compare 'em yourself,  fair enough. While AI found the X and Note were a toss-up (thanks for that link) the dropped frames on the Note compared to the XS is certainly a plus in Apple's favor. 

    EDIT: A cursory look on YouTube indicates game loading on Battlefields and Fortnite is much faster on the XS compared to the Galaxy, and by a significant amount. Game play itself is reported as pretty much on par with each other. But again I'm no gamer so cannot comment from personal experience. 


    Thats not what I said. I said there are no high-end Apps on Android to allow a comparison against iOS equivalents.


    So I’ll ask again: Can any of you Android users select some Apps for me to compare to make this fair?
    Huh? I'm pretty sure I just gave you two to test for yourself: Battlefield and Fortnite. The same ones I gave you exactly a week ago but you never got around to. 

    Huh? I’m pretty sure I....

    - Already stated why games are a poor example as results are subjective.
    - Linked to the AI article on Fortnite so there’s no need to repeat a test someone has already done anyway.
    - Have been the person on AI to repeatedly ask others for Apps to compare, making countless others here the ones who “never got around to it”.

    Don’t try to turn this back on me.
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  • Reply 98 of 134
    gatorguy said:
    gatorguy said:
    gatorguy said:
    bb-15 said:
    saltyzip said:
    I'm sure all that extra performance makes Facebook, WhatsApp and phone calls rock, not!

    The value of speed in a smartphone includes; 1. Intensive games like Fortnite. 
    I think @ericthehalfbee is actually testing how much  better the gaming performance of Fornite is on his iPhone compared to a couple of other higher-end Android phones. 

    To really test performance you need to perform tasks where the completion time can be measured. Like rendering a video, applying complex effects to a photo or recalculating a complex spreadsheet.
    But you have no way of comparing those as you've said before and you were the one that offered to if presented with some other apps that COULD be tested.  I offered two that my son knew both he and his friends have played in competitions on both Android and iOS. I'm no gamer myself, nor someone who would do their photo processing on a smartphone for that matter.

    No doubt there may be some smallish percentage of users like you who really do their "complex photo processing" on their smartphone or do "complex spreadsheet computations" on one, but wouldn't gaming  be a far more common use (perhaps THE most common use based on app store revenues) and and a more insightful comparison? Personally I think it would be a great real-life everyday measuring stick. Just my .02

    But if you can't compare 'em yourself,  fair enough. While AI found the X and Note were a toss-up (thanks for that link) the dropped frames on the Note compared to the XS is certainly a plus in Apple's favor. 

    EDIT: A cursory look on YouTube indicates game loading on Battlefields and Fortnite is much faster on the XS compared to the Galaxy, and by a significant amount. Game play itself is reported as pretty much on par with each other. But again I'm no gamer so cannot comment from personal experience. 


    Thats not what I said. I said there are no high-end Apps on Android to allow a comparison against iOS equivalents.


    So I’ll ask again: Can any of you Android users select some Apps for me to compare to make this fair?
    Huh? I'm pretty sure I just gave you two to test for yourself: Battlefield and Fortnite. The same ones I gave you exactly a week ago but you never got around to. 

    Huh? I’m pretty sure I....

    - Already stated why games are a poor example as results are subjective.
    - Linked to the AI article on Fortnite so there’s no need to repeat a test someone has already done anyway.
    - Have been the person on AI to repeatedly ask others for Apps to compare, making countless others here the ones who “never got around to it”.

    Don’t try to turn this back on me.
    YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, Slack, Evernote, Trello, Maps or navigation. But if the performance results of games per device is subjective, wouldn't all other performance results be subjective?
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  • Reply 99 of 134
    clarker99 said:
    tmay said:
    None of you mouth frothing, chomping at the bit psycho Apple fans have ever used a pixel phone it seems. Like really used, for weeks, fully taking advantage of its intelligence. 

    All smart phones are just conduits to using *Google's* services. Internet? Chrome. Email? Gmail. Calendar? Gmail again. Maps? Google Maps. Videos? YouTube. Photos? Google Photos. All these apps are best in class and have the biggest user base (i.e. I don't care if you don't use them, since you should)

    A Pixel phone makes life easy. Get hotel and/or flight confirmations to your email? Google adds it  to your calendar, notifies you the day of the trip, and gives you travel times/info. Traffic worse than normal for commute? Google warns you. If you want smart home features, Google Home is the best. Google Assistant is light-years ahead of every other smart assistant. Alexa is ok, but doesn't have Google's search integration. Siri is a joke. All the rest are just as bad as Siri.

    Chromecast is better than other smart TV products. Nest has the best security cameras and thermostat. Google WiFi is the prettiest and most intuitive mesh network. Soon self driving cars will dominate, and Waymo (Google) is a half decade farther along than the nearest competitor (which is GM, then Uber, with Apple not really making the list at all). Google is the ecosystem of the future. Apple is doing the same old crap, and doing it worse. They're focusing on building better hardware, while Google is focusing on building better software and letting the hardware market develop itself. The result is that the user experience with Google products blows Apple out of the water.

    Also, the pixel camera beats the iPhone camera year after year. And stock Android is prettier, easier to use, and isn't locked in iOS' horrible, basically-unchanging-for-ten-years app layout (an app drawer is indisputably BETTER).

    You have a little spittle on your chin that you might want to clean up.

    That happens when people go on, and on, with delusional rants.

    I'm sure that you feel better now though.

    Oh, and find a better name, first time poster.

    Imagine paying for and then putting (on your own, without any duress) a Nest Camera, a Google home and a Google Wifi network in your home. Google should be paying you.

    My iPhone auto puts calendar events in from my email. My iPhone connects to my vehicles bluetooth and Maps auto pops up and tells me time and can get map in a click. We have seen that no one can tell the difference bw a Pixel photo and a XS photo. And still see that the P20 Pro camera might be the best in the market.  All google apps are available and given lots love in iOS. I pop my airpods in and siri auto pops up my latest podcasts or music. Siri learns and recommend all the similar things you say but hey have you used an iPhone? Like c’mon people.
    Many of these features were introduced on Android and are becoming synonymous with its name. When's the last time Apple introduced an exciting new (original) software product? Or even a new tech concept in general? People on Android like being at the front of the line, and for the most part we don't sacrifice anything for it.
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  • Reply 100 of 134
    jbdragonjbdragon Posts: 2,315member
    tmay said:
    avon b7 said:
    bb-15 said:
    saltyzip said:
    I'm sure all that extra performance makes Facebook, WhatsApp and phone calls rock, not!

    The value of speed in a smartphone includes; 1. Intensive games like Fortnite. 2. 4K video at high frame rates in which the latest iPhones lead the industry. 
    But that would only be useful if someone played intensive games and recorded 4K video at high frame rates.

    I use neither.

    How much space does hi res 4k video use on iPhones?

    I ask because a national Spanish daily recommended not buying an entry level X last year due to the lack of capacity for hi res video use.
    4K 60P is 24 GB per hour, more or less; 30P would be half of that.

    Anyone that was contemplating 4K video, would want to pay for either the 256GB or 512GB model. The same would apply for Android OS devices, although some don't actually support 60P.

    Like the Kirin 980, which only offers 4K30.

    ‘The Pixel 3 phones only offer a 64 or 128 gig option with no memory expansion.  That’s pretty weak.  I upgraded my 4 year old iPhone 6 to a iPhone XS with 256 gig. Google is charging premium prices on a mid range phone.

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